@Bean Busy they came in original sealed breeders pack, with tude i always tick the option box of 'no stealth', also i tick the 'send in original sealed breeders pack' option and write in the supplied box 'please send in original breeders pack', so theres no way tude will not see my main requirement, did yours turn up in plain satchel or opened? did you request stealth? cos some of tudes stealth options require beans be removed from packaging, only once has tude sent me a packet with seal opened? i havnt grown them out yet but am fairly confident tude wouldnt do the low act of exchanging seeds, but for sure im deadset on sealed breeders packs!