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Greengenes707

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You also threatened to beat up @REALSTYLES and also threatened me as well which gave me some good laughs.

I think you might got a bit of an internet anger problem.
Again...check the facts. He came at me and said" watch out at the cup".
And I said "ok come at me".
Will pull all the quotes for you when I have a computer in front of me.

Please pull it up and present the quote. If I did it it's there for you.
 

Yodaweed

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Again...check the facts. He came at me and said" watch out at the cup".
And I said "ok come at me".
Will pull all the quotes for you when I have a computer in front of me.
Old man @REALSTYLES said that? I have a hard time believing that.

Even if he did say it , he's like a crazy old guy, do you gotta stoop down to his level? To me it just shows what type of person you are, i'm gonna quote Michelle Obama here to help you in life

"when they go low, we go high"
 

Yodaweed

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Get you shit straight before you just go making shit up in your head
You threatened me as well, to beat me up at the cup, literally out of no where, and i'm not scared of you at all, just not willing to stoop down to your level and threaten somebody through the internet, it does not make you tough.

You might need to take a second to do some self reflection before making another hasty response attacking me or somebody else.
 

Greengenes707

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You threatened me as well, to beat me up at the cup, literally out of no where, and i'm not scared of you at all, just not willing to stoop down to your level and threaten somebody through the internet, it does not make you tough.

You might need to take a second to do some self reflection before making another hasty response attacking me or somebody else.
Please show me a wrong calculation or fact I have presented. Or an actual quote not your feelings. You came here just to bring up your hurt feelings and have not contributed anything to the facts of this thread.

I have already given Aleah sphere and goniometer numbers of mine to use for his purposes and further validate his calculations and this thread.

So again...please bring something or take your feelings to your psychologist.
 

Heil Tweetler

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Old man @REALSTYLES said that? I have a hard time believing that.

Even if he did say it , he's like a crazy old guy, do you gotta stoop down to his level? To me it just shows what type of person you are, i'm gonna quote Michelle Obama here to help you in life

"when they go low, we go high"
you're quoting michele obama like she's your mommy whisperer. where's the quotes from Greengenes motherfucker?
 

Yodaweed

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Please show me a wrong calculation or fact I have presented. Or an actual quote not your feelings. You came here just to bring up your hurt feelings and have not contributed anything to the facts of this thread.

I have already given Aleah sphere and goniometer numbers of mine to use for his purposes and further validate his calculations and this thread.

So again...please bring something or take your feelings to your psychologist.
No need to bring up past threads to know you are a hypocrite, just look how you are acting, in one sentence you claim "cyber bullying" then the next you are attacking someone and bullying.
 

Heil Tweetler

Well-Known Member
Nope

Yep

Is that the best you there big boy? You should buy yourself a personality, the Rainman wants his social skills back.

Duck, punk panty, stop retreatin
Cause you shouldn't be sleepin
Takin dirty , away I'm sweepin
Got a tower, of power, I devour
Every second of the hour, I send 'em to the shower
I'm cool! Not a fool, from the new school!
Drinkin brew by my pool, sittin on my gold stool
Gotta rock, that I drop, like a horse, on the trot
When it comes to makin money, it takes what I got
I know you're sayin to yourself
But I'll be back, to attack,
You're Mr. Big Stuff!
Whoa you a rhyme spitter? of vomit scented, witless rhymes.
 

nfhiggs

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Yes I have, see attached. But perhaps you should keep current rather than relying on a distorted look at a 1973 study. Notice in the original published study, the term for the curve is relative.

There is a source that is very credible. It is a textbook in its 6th edition where the authors have published some more recent peer reviewed studies on the topic of absorption, action, and quantum yield. Quantum yield has been misused by the grow light charlatans. Quantum yield and action cannot take place if they are not absorbed. The quantum yield chart is relative to those photons that have been absorbed. What is much clearer and more difficult to distort is an absolute chart. The broad spectrum charlatans like to use the very old 1973 McCree chart because it is easy to misconstrue.


It may help to understand the subject. It's not just a graph, there is a lot going on as far as how the photons are used. Tossing the name McCree does not mean a damn thing. This is a simple question from the textbook referenced below. If you can't answer this then what you say is not relevant. Explain the concept of quantum yield. Compare and contrast the quantum yields of photochemistry, oxygen evolution, and photosynthetic carbon fixation. Explain the differences between the respective quantum yield values.

The McCree study still holds today, I am not trying to discredit McCree. I find it just pathetic how the charlatans distort his findings.

But a more modern look at absorbance and action chart like from a 2014 6th edition authoritative textbook which contains all the references to the peer reviewed studies to back its contents, may paint a more accurate picture.

Below is the absorbance and action chart (with citations) for the textbook Plant Physiology and Development. It is a $168 text book that has survived in a very tough market to make it to a 6th edition with a price tag like that.






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And that absorbance/action chart is of what exactly? It does not say. But I strongly suspect it's our good friend Ulva, since its remarkably similar to this chart of Ulva on the right:
Figure 9. Effect of increasing structural complexity on absorptance and action spectra. (a) absorptance spectra of isolated pigments, disrupted chloroplasts, intact chloroplasts, and whole leaves from spinach (Spinacia oleracea) Modified from (Moss & Loomis, 1952). (b) Photosynthetic action spectra for the green alga Ulva (two cell layers) (Haxo & Blinks, 1950) and higher plants (multiple cell layers). The curve for higher plants represents the average of action spectra obtained for 22 crop plants (McCree, 1971/1972) recalculated on a photon basis.


Ulva as you surely know, is a green algae and is utterly useless for deriving any conclusions about terrestrial plants, their biology and their action spectra, as the crop plant action spectra shows.

Price tag of a textbook (and its edition number) is meaningless as to judging its veracity....

The charlatans distorting things are the ones using algae and bacteria absorption charts.
 

Greengenes707

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No need to bring up past threads to know you are a hypocrite, just look how you are acting, in one sentence you claim "cyber bullying" then the next you are attacking someone and bullying.
Seriously dude. I'm calling you out right now on your BS. This is your chance to actually prove something and shove it in my face. But you have nothing but your hurt feelings.
 

NoFucks2Give

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The charlatans distorting things are the ones using algae and bacteria absorption charts.
Is that not what I said?

price tag of a textbook (and its edition number) is meaningless as to judging its veracity....
Who cares what you think, not me. Plant Physiology the most authoritative, comprehensive, and widely used upper-division plant biology textbook. For 22 years

Lincoln Taiz is Professor Emeritus in the Department of MCD Biology at the University of California, Santa Cruz, USA. He is a Fellow of the American Society of Plant Biologists. Dr. Taiz has served as an editor for Plant Physiology, Plant Physiology and Biochemistry, New Phytologist, Botanica Acta, and the Annual Review of Plant Physiology.

Eduardo Zeiger is Professor Emeritus in the Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology at the University of California, Los Angeles, USA. Angus Murphy, University of Maryland, USA.

Ian M. Møller is Associate Professor of Molecular Biology and Genetics at Aarhus University, Denmark. He received his Ph.D. in Plant Biochemistry from Imperial College, London, UK. He has worked at Lund University, Sweden and, more recently, at Risø National Laboratory and the Royal Veterinary and Agricultural University in Copenhagen, Denmark. Professor Møller has investigated plant respiration throughout his career. His current interests include turnover of reactive oxygen species and the role of protein oxidation in plant cells.

Angus Murphy has been a Professor and Chair of the Department of Plant Science and Landscape Architecture at the University of Maryland since 2012. He earned his Ph.D. in Biology from the University of California at Santa Cruz in 1996 and moved to Purdue University as an assistant professr in 2001. Dr. Murphy studies ATP-Binding Cassette transporters, the regulation of auxin transport, and the mechanisms by which transport proteins are regulated in plastic plant growth.


But I strongly suspect it's our good friend Ulva
Apparently you did not read very well it is the action spectrum for photosynthesis and the absorption spectrum of chlorophyll a and b. Not bacteriochlorophyll or phycoerythrobilin

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Heil Tweetler

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It was appropriate for a knuckle dragging sociopathic fucktard like you. Are you stupid? Or do you just have bad luck when it comes to thinking?
You post imbecile blabber and then question the intelligence of others. Those are characteristics of
a gum flapping jackass. Stop humiliating yourself, please.

Let this thread get back on topic. If you need more help shoving the idiocy back up your ass PM me.
 
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