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otto warmbier dead

srh88

srh88

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racerboy71 said:
.. it seems that otto warmbier has died from his wounds suffered while serving hard time in north korea, despite his recent return to the us of a..
i wonder how 45 is going to respond to this..
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/otto-warmbier-dead-trump-response-statement-north-korea-imprisoned-student-death-latest-a7798281.html?cmpid=facebook-post
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he'll most likely tweet about his approval rating a couple times and talk about the witch hunt going on about him then say something very short like "my condolences to the warmbier family"
 
ThcGuy

ThcGuy

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It amazes me when people go places in the world that they don't belong and then are surprised when bad things happen to them. North Korea and the U.S. are still technically at war, why the fuck would any American go there? Also why would you as an American on enemy soil break their laws? I realize he didn't deserve to die but what did he think would happen. Fucking dumb ass!
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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ThcGuy said:
It amazes me when people go places in the world that they don't belong and then are surprised when bad things happen to them. North Korea and the U.S. are still technically at war, why the fuck would any American go there? Also why would you as an American on enemy soil break their laws? I realize he didn't deserve to die but what did he think would happen. Fucking dumb ass!
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victim blaming much?

The kid stole a propaganda poster and died for it. You can call him a dumbass for doing that. But killing him or even years of hard time in their prisons for doing that is a bit harsh don't you think?
 
ThcGuy

ThcGuy

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Fogdog said:
victim blaming much?

The kid stole a propaganda poster and died for it. You can call him a dumbass for doing that. But killing him or even years of hard time in their prisons for doing that is a bit harsh don't you think?
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I travel all over the world for work and quite often to Muslim countries. I cannot go to these places expecting to have the same rights and freedoms I have in my home country. I do a little research or just don't do ANYTHING that could put me in danger of being charged for a violation of their criminal code. He was stealing from a country that has vowed on a regular basis to nuke the U.S., why would anyone expect leniency from North Korea for this kid? North Koreans hate Americans, its no secret.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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ThcGuy said:
I travel all over the world for work and quite often to Muslim countries. I cannot go to these places expecting to have the same rights and freedoms I have in my home country. I do a little research or just don't do ANYTHING that could put me in danger of being charged for a violation of their criminal code. He was stealing from a country that has vowed on a regular basis to nuke the U.S., why would anyone expect leniency from North Korea for this kid? North Koreans hate Americans, its no secret.
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What you think and do is relevant how?

It was a kid that died for a stupid act. I can't recall a time in my life where I would have done what he did. But it was North Korea that killed him. Are you really giving North Korea a pass on this?
 
ThcGuy

ThcGuy

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Fogdog said:
What you think and do is relevant how?

It was a kid that died for a stupid act. I can't recall a time in my life where I would have done what he did. But it was North Korea that killed him. Are you really giving North Korea a pass on this?
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I'm just trying to say that maybe people should do a little research on countries that they want to visit. You can't expect to be treated like you would be at home, especially when traveling to countries like North Korea.

He broke the rules there and was made an example of because he was American, it wasn't fair in the slightest and I don't condone the actions of North Korea at all!

However when you enter any country anywhere in the world you accept that if you break their laws, you will be subject to their penalties. If you don't like it don't go!

Kim Jong Un killed his Uncle with a 50 cal. and had assassins poison and kill his half brother in a crowded airport, do you really think he gave a shit about Otto?
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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ThcGuy said:
I'm just trying to say that maybe people should do a little research on countries that they want to visit. You can't expect to be treated like you would be at home, especially when traveling to countries like North Korea.

He broke the rules there and was made an example of because he was American, it wasn't fair in the slightest and I don't condone the actions of North Korea at all!

However when you enter any country anywhere in the world you accept that if you break their laws, you will be subject to their penalties. If you don't like it don't go!

Kim Jong Un killed his Uncle with a 50 cal. and had assassins poison and kill his half brother in a crowded airport, do you really think he gave a shit about Otto?
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So you blame the kid. Stupid kid who took a poster. Nowhere in the world is the killing of a kid over a poster considered acceptable. This moral equivalency is one-sided. North Korea screams bloody murder when we even get a ship close to their shores. I'd say the killing is more like an act of revenge than due to anything the kid did.

So what part of Russia are you living in? propaganda much?
 
ThcGuy

ThcGuy

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Fogdog said:
So you blame the kid. Stupid kid who took a poster. Nowhere in the world is the killing of a kid over a poster considered acceptable. This moral equivalency is one-sided. North Korea screams bloody murder when we even get a ship close to their shores. I'd say the killing is more like an act of revenge than due to anything the kid did.

So what part of Russia are you living in? propaganda much?
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Once again, I do not condone what North Korea did! This means I think it was wrong of North Korea to sentence the kid to hard labor for so long and I also do not agree with whatever they did to to damage his brain enough to put him the coma that eventually lead to his death. I do not defend North Korea's actions and Otto did not deserve to die because of a poster.

All I am trying to say is don't do stupid shit in dangerous places or you could end up dead! Otto did just this and now he is dead because of it!

Also you are exactly right about it being for revenge and not for the actual crime that Otto committed. However this also brings me back to my original post where I mentioned that the U.S. and North Korea are still technically at war, of course the North Koreans are this to their advantage.

As for killing not being acceptable for stealing a poster, capital punishment isn't acceptable ever in my books!

Russia? Never been there. Propaganda? I guess that depends on your political views.
 
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fdd2blk

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Fogdog said:
So you blame the kid. Stupid kid who took a poster. Nowhere in the world is the killing of a kid over a poster considered acceptable. This moral equivalency is one-sided. North Korea screams bloody murder when we even get a ship close to their shores. I'd say the killing is more like an act of revenge than due to anything the kid did.

So what part of Russia are you living in? propaganda much?
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lol
 
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