The Truth About Flushing

[CannaBruh]

@Odin* You assume (incorrectly) that my use of a flush is a remedy to an overfeed?


If you don't like the fall colors that's fine. Nobody is begging you to like them.

 

[Lucky Luke]

@Odin* You assume (incorrectly) that my use of a flush is a remedy to an overfeed?


If you don't like the fall colors that's fine. Nobody is begging you to like them.

And this is one of the problems with using an incorrect term in horticulture.
Flush to stoners has a few different meanings..whats your definition and in what context are you using it in?

 

[CannaBruh]

And this is one of the problems with using an incorrect term in horticulture.
Flush to stoners has a few different meanings..whats your definition and in what context are you using it in?

With what you have read so far, what do you think it means?

 

[mr sunshine]

You could feed less and you wouldn't have to flush to get whatever results you're looking for.. honestly though,fall colors or green. once cut and dried it's all the same shit, Besides the fact that one was starved and one wasn't. Flushing is a myth. Feed your plants keep them green, or dont, nobody really cares.

 

[CannaBruh]

If it doesn't make a difference why feed when I am getting the "same result" by not feeding? I don't subscribe to the idea it makes no difference either, I truly feel it does when I have tried feeding up to harvest.

 

[mr sunshine]

If it doesn't make a difference why feed when I am getting the "same result" by not feeding? I don't subscribe to the idea it makes no difference either, I truly feel it does when I have tried feeding up to harvest.

Well, you're actually feeding them till you choose to starve them. Which is better then starving them from the jump but worse then never starving them at all. Those fall colors are nutrient deficiencies.

 

[CannaBruh]

Lots of nutrient deficient trees in the North-East come fall....but are they really deficient and what is the deficiency, what is the consequence of being deficient at this stage of growth (are they even growing at this stage?)

At the onset of flush all "growth" has ceased more or less.

Now unless you are one that harvests with white hairs stiff and bursting from calyxes when I flush, the plant is done, it could be harvested right there, but the fade brings on a whole new attitude. Again it's just a preference but it is a preference, I prefer it. I don't like what feeding to the end does to the flowers.

 

[MichiganMedGrower]

100 internets says organic matter is broken down to mineral salts before a plant can use the nutritions ?
They dont uptake dead fish for instance only whats broken down by fungi insect compost?
If I win we then all use salts to grow our plants hydro or organic style.

And who is anyone to argue with 100 internets? Lol.

 

[MichiganMedGrower]

at the moment there is no better affordable source for an UV-A/B spectrum available than a T5.

no LED, no COB, not in a broad spectrum, not even in a narrow spectrum and not in that intensity.

315 cmh bulbs in both temps have uv in their spectrum.

According to growers house some brands have more than others. They have a chart on their tests.

 

[Lucky Luke]

With what you have read so far, what do you think it means?

So your not sure then?

 

[Roger A. Shrubber]

Are you sure? I recall you comparing flushing to fat loss. Let's go back and check...




Another take away from the above quote; You think that nutrient deficiencies and/or imbalances are "aesthetically pleasing"?





You didn't respond to this^.

Now worries, here's another golden opportunity for you to lay down the "actual and factual" behind the practice of "Orange Mocha Frappuccino" enemas (flushing). You can do that, or continue on about chicken shit





Flushing is "starvation", not a caloric deficit.

i want Orange Mocha Frappuccino.....just not an enema, a cup would be fine

 

[whitebb2727]

You could feed less and you wouldn't have to flush to get whatever results you're looking for.. honestly though,fall colors or green. once cut and dried it's all the same shit, Besides the fact that one was starved and one wasn't. Flushing is a myth. Feed your plants keep them green, or dont, nobody really cares.

Green to the end.

I like colors also.

 

[whitebb2727]

Lots of nutrient deficient trees in the North-East come fall....but are they really deficient and what is the deficiency, what is the consequence of being deficient at this stage of growth (are they even growing at this stage?)

At the onset of flush all "growth" has ceased more or less.

Now unless you are one that harvests with white hairs stiff and bursting from calyxes when I flush, the plant is done, it could be harvested right there, but the fade brings on a whole new attitude. Again it's just a preference but it is a preference, I prefer it. I don't like what feeding to the end does to the flowers.

That's a false equivalency. Trees turn colors for a different reason than pot.

Come on.

There is a difference in genetic colors in cannabis and those fall colors caused by nutrient defeincy.

 

[MichiganMedGrower]

Fed til the last watering. Stayed purple and healthy for weeks. Still uptaking when cut at week 11.5. Showing mostly cloudy, some clear and full and some multicolored (amber, violet, pink) trichomes. 5.2 oz dense nugs. 2 oz loose or small buds and bud leaf. In #3 nursery pot. 29" tall from soil. 2' wide.

Didnt over feed. No need to leach. Just some runoff each watering.

2.5 weeks in jars. Tastes sweet with a hint of fuel. Smokes almost smooth. Needs more time. Smells of rotten fruit and diesel fuel. Like it should.

 

[Dr.Nick Riviera]

That's a false equivalency. Trees turn colors for a different reason than pot.

Come on.

There is a difference in genetic colors in cannabis and those fall colors caused by nutrient defeincy.

so now he is comparing trees, in nature, to weed grown under a light in a room,LMFAO
can't argue with those facts!!!

 

[l0wbob2016]

315 cmh bulbs in both temps have uv in their spectrum.

According to growers house some brands have more than others. They have a chart on their tests.

I know but the intensity of that UV spectrum isnt that high compared to a pure uv t5. ( i am not talking about the agromax pure uv )
I just wanted to say that no other type than a T5 is able of producing high intensity UV-A/B spectrum at a cost effective way and without overkill. Thats all

 

[MichiganMedGrower]

I know but the intensity of that UV spectrum isnt that high compared to a pure uv t5. ( i am not talking about the agromax pure uv )
I just wanted to say that no other type than a T5 is able of producing high intensity UV-A/B spectrum at a cost effective way and without overkill. Thats all

I would like to see the info that shows this.

Many pros supplement de hps lit tables with a 315 cmh for the uv and better spectrum to get the thc boost.

And mh also has plenty of uv to supplement as well.

And it still only makes a minor difference in quality. But I agree it is there.

 

[l0wbob2016]

I would like to see the info that shows this.

Many pros supplement de hps lit tables with a 315 cmh for the uv and better spectrum to get the thc boost.

And mh also has plenty of uv to supplement as well.

And it still only makes a minor difference in quality. But I agree it is there.

I just wanna say again i just relate to pure UV output.

Narrow Band UV only:
Philips UV-B Narrowband TL 40W/01 RS (40W) [70 bucks]
https://uk.proflamps.com/datasheets/fp-928011300101_pss_en_aa_001.pdf

Broad Band UV only:
Philips UVB Broadband TL 40W/12 RS SLV/25 (40W) [80 bucks]
http://download.p4c.philips.com/lfb/f/fp-928011301201/fp-928011301201_pss_en_aa_001.pdf

 

[MichiganMedGrower]

I just wanna say again i just relate to pure UV output.

Narrow Band UV only:
Philips UV-B Narrowband TL 40W/01 RS (40W) [70 bucks]
https://uk.proflamps.com/datasheets/fp-928011300101_pss_en_aa_001.pdf

Broad Band UV only:
Philips UVB Broadband TL 40W/12 RS SLV/25 (40W) [80 bucks]
http://download.p4c.philips.com/lfb/f/fp-928011301201/fp-928011301201_pss_en_aa_001.pdf

Thank you. Did not know these existed. Says they are in the us but I have not seen or heard of them used for a plants before.

So I guess your statement is true but I think I will stick to Phillips lighting that is plant specific. Not sure a Medical type bulb is good in a Grow room.

 

[Enigma]

Thank you. Did not know these existed. Says they are in the us but I have not seen or heard of them used for a plants before.

So I guess your statement is true but I think I will stick to Phillips lighting that is plant specific. Not sure a Medical type bulb is good in a Grow room.

If the equipment does the required task I wouldn't be concerned with what someone else had labeled it.

Aderral was originally intended for weight loss, in the 50's. Now, it isn't middle aged women taking that drug any more.

Learn, grow.