Mark Blyth, the economist who's making sense

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Fogdog said:
Nope. He's getting old. Who is going to replace him? It's the responsibility of elders to mentor their replacement.
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So what's Nancy Pelosi's excuse? Or Diane Feinstein's?

Once again, you quibble while America burns. Who cares how old the messenger is if the message is valid?

And it seems to me that Mr Sanders has been showing up to support Progressives across the country. What more can he do? Start a university?

You seem to be getting willfully dense about how corrupt the Democratic Party has become. Are you on the payroll too? You clearly don't read the articles I posted, so we can't discuss them. Since you just spew the same old shit, why should I take anything you say seriously?
 
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ttystikk said:
So what's Nancy Pelosi's excuse? Or Diane Feinstein's?

Once again, you quibble while America burns. Who cares how old the messenger is if the message is valid?

And it seems to me that Mr Sanders has been showing up to support Progressives across the country. What more can he do? Start a university?

You seem to be getting willfully dense about how corrupt the Democratic Party has become. Are you on the payroll too? You clearly don't read the articles I posted, so we can't discuss them. Since you just spew the same old shit, why should I take anything you say seriously?
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I was asking what Sanders is doing? Where is his third party? Who is going to lead it after he's gone?
 
Fogdog said:
I was asking what Sanders is doing? Where is his third party? Who is going to lead it after he's gone?
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Maybe you should be more concerned with what the Democratic party leadership is doing instead of worrying about a guy you claim nobody cares about. Maybe try to figure out why the Dems have lost more than 1,000 seats since Obama became president?
 
Padawanbater2 said:
Maybe you should be more concerned with what the Democratic party leadership is doing instead of worrying about a guy you claim nobody cares about. Maybe try to figure out why the Dems have lost more than 1,000 seats since Obama became president?
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Complaining about Sanders is easier than facing the truth of the demolition of the Democratic Party. They've been too obvious about their selling out to the monied interests and have lost their credibility.

We need a party that's actually on the left representing workers in this country and it's increasingly clear that the Democratic Party has been doing its very best to destroy any progressive movement- even at the cost of its own destruction.

Any revolution that fails to replace the leaders is a failure. The current political paradigm allows the current leadership in both parties to prosper whether they get votes or candidates in office or not.

This is not democracy; it's a cover-up for kleptocracy. We are seeing the results play out in television, in the halls of Congress, the Senate, the White House, at corporate boardrooms and unemployment lines across the country.
 
Padawanbater2 said:
Maybe you should be more concerned with what the Democratic party leadership is doing instead of worrying about a guy you claim nobody cares about. Maybe try to figure out why the Dems have lost more than 1,000 seats since Obama became president?
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Tea party, they picked up all those so called progressive voters, that were unhappy with Obama's white house.
 
Justin-case said:
Tea party, they picked up all those so called progressive voters, that were unhappy with Obama's white house.
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Maybe the Democrats don't have a message that their base can believe in. Just bullshit, platitudes and word salad.

But that's okay; everyone in the party still gets to keep their cushy jobs. So who cares if people are starving on minimum wages, homelessness is at all time highs and healthcare is being thrown under the bus while prisons for profit get ramped up?

Jesus Fuck, the other 90% of the country is in deep shit and all you can do is whine about Bernie supporters. The Democrats don't deserve our votes; they must earn them, with strong policies, a platform that matters to blue collar and service workers and last but not least; CREDIBILITY.

Why don't you ever talk about any of those actual issues?
 
ttystikk said:
Maybe the Democrats don't have a message that their base can believe in. Just bullshit, platitudes and word salad.

But that's okay; everyone in the party still gets to keep their cushy jobs. So who cares if people are starving on minimum wages, homelessness is at all time highs and healthcare is being thrown under the bus while prisons for profit get ramped up?

Jesus Fuck, the other 90% of the country is in deep shit and all you can do is whine about Bernie supporters. The Democrats don't deserve our votes; they must earn them, with strong policies, a platform that matters to blue collar and service workers and last but not least; CREDIBILITY.

Why don't you ever talk about any of those actual issues?
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Redundancy


All I do is whine about Bs (Bernie supporters)? You're lost, bro.
 
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ttystikk said:
Maybe the Democrats don't have a message that their base can believe in. Just bullshit, platitudes and word salad.

But that's okay; everyone in the party still gets to keep their cushy jobs. So who cares if people are starving on minimum wages, homelessness is at all time highs and healthcare is being thrown under the bus while prisons for profit get ramped up?

Jesus Fuck, the other 90% of the country is in deep shit and all you can do is whine about Bernie supporters. The Democrats don't deserve our votes; they must earn them, with strong policies, a platform that matters to blue collar and service workers and last but not least; CREDIBILITY.

Why don't you ever talk about any of those actual issues?
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LOL

Yes, the country is in deep shit. In part because some entitled white guys are obsessing over the Democratic party's not hewing true to their ideas when Republicans are pillaging the country, rolling back the ACA and setting civil rights back 50 years. You guys talk as if the Democrats are the ones to be stopped. Babies who think access to healthcare and campaign finance reform started and ended with Bernie's 2016 bid for office.

I don't want to talk issues with people who confuse their belief with the facts.
 
Fogdog said:
LOL

Yes, the country is in deep shit. In part because some entitled white guys are obsessing over the Democratic party's not hewing true to their ideas when Republicans are pillaging the country, rolling back the ACA and setting civil rights back 50 years. You guys talk as if the Democrats are the ones to be stopped. Babies who think access to healthcare and campaign finance reform started and ended with Bernie's 2016 bid for office.

I don't want to talk issues with people who confuse their belief with the facts.
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if the dems just abandon black people and women to focus solely on what recent young white male college grads want, we will win everything! $15 an hour and free healthcare and the pubs will stop being racist too!
 
Fogdog said:
LOL

Yes, the country is in deep shit. In part because some entitled white guys are obsessing over the Democratic party's not hewing true to their ideas when Republicans are pillaging the country, rolling back the ACA and setting civil rights back 50 years. You guys talk as if the Democrats are the ones to be stopped. Babies who think access to healthcare and campaign finance reform started and ended with Bernie's 2016 bid for office.

I don't want to talk issues with people who confuse their belief with the facts.
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My perspective on the facts being different from yours does not mean my insights are wrong. I'm sorry your mind is closed to new ideas.
 
Fogdog said:
Yes, the country is in deep shit. In part because some entitled white guys are obsessing over the Democratic party's not hewing true to their ideas when Republicans are pillaging the country, rolling back the ACA and setting civil rights back 50 years. You guys talk as if the Democrats are the ones to be stopped.
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Establishment Democrats don't represent constituents interests, the same as Republicans. I'm not sure why that's so difficult for you to understand, you can see it in Republican politicians but you're blind to it, or ignore it in Democrats. If they don't represent my interests, like universal healthcare, non interventionism, etc. why should I support them?

Can you answer that question without resorting to personal attacks?

Don't get upset at me for not supporting the politicians you support just because the alternative is worse. Being better than worse is not enough for me. It's not enough for a lot of people. You can attribute it to me being white if you'd like, but we both know that's not true and it's a tactic you employ so you don't have to actually ask yourself why a rational person would feel this way.
 
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