First Grow: Hows She Looking?

[JimmyTheNewb]

Wow im sorry i didnt see where it was an auto lol

 

[Pauliewogs]

Not a problem at all. Seriously, im grateful for all comments and advice. Thank you for taking your time to view my thread and comment! I hope that the tucking is enough because these fan leaves are providing some major unwanted shade.

 

[legalcanada]

topping isn't advised, but i don't think plucking one or two fan leaves would cause much stress in the plant. I'm only hypothesizing though, do not know for certain

 

[JimmyTheNewb]

I can tell you this much from the little experience i do have. The blurple LED lights do better then people think. Youll see a lot of negative comment on this site about them but they're usually the ones whos never used them to grow. Now dont get me wrong if you plan on doing more then 3 or 4 plants go with mh or hps but for what were doing theyre perfect. I keep mine close about 7 " I even put a 100w led cob on it too lol. Never saw any signs of light burn. Your plant looks good just keep doing what you're doing and youll be smokin in no time. Id maybe ease up on the watering a bit though.

 

[Buyfrommycity]

Ive probably stunted the fuck out of her then because ive watered every day since she started veg. Im just so afraid that shes not going to get all the nutes she needs that I overcompensate by watering till 10-20% runoff every day. Also, ive been watering at lights out which is the best time for root growth. They dont even have to work to find their food. I use about a half gallon (maybe a bit less) a day. I also have a fan blowing on the fabric pot 24/7 so that may assist a bit in drying up the coco. Also, if I let the medium get too dry, the salts will build up. GH is a salt based nute after all. That and the possible build up of using epsum salt in 6/9 .

I believe they are called pistils after reading some more.

I understand the concept of 6/9 now and im willing to give it a good run. Though i think I will have to supplement some calmag cause i never precharged. I have to do some experimenting.

You can't over water coco. I will agree to disagree with the other guy. I water 1-2 times a day and have since clone in a flood hydro system. I use supernatural nutes. And primordial solutions sea green. I took it outside for better light for the picf 3 gal pot. This was vegged under cfls as my t5 broke and had to send it in for warranty.
Here's a pic of my clones literally sitting on top of water in coco. I leave them like this for 2-3weeks before moving them to flood/drain system
If u guys have any suggestions for things you'd like to see I'm more than happy to make a YouTube video for any non believers. I could leave a hose on it 24 hours? I could set my timers to water 10 times a day? I could submerge it in a bucket for a week?

 

[legalcanada]

how much do you water per watering in a 3gl pot?? I'm still trying to dial in how much i should be watering etc. i've been doing about 3/4 gallon in a 5g pot

 

[Buyfrommycity]

Sounds about right. I use a flood system on timers so I don't hand water. But just soak her down and what she doesn't want will drain out the bottom. Water even if she's wet. Should always be wet. Out with the old nutes in with the new.

 

[vertnugs]

Ive probably stunted the fuck out of her then because ive watered every day since she started veg. Im just so afraid that shes not going to get all the nutes she needs that I overcompensate by watering till 10-20% runoff every day. Also, ive been watering at lights out which is the best time for root growth. They dont even have to work to find their food. I use about a half gallon (maybe a bit less) a day. I also have a fan blowing on the fabric pot 24/7 so that may assist a bit in drying up the coco. Also, if I let the medium get too dry, the salts will build up. GH is a salt based nute after all. That and the possible build up of using epsum salt in 6/9 .

I believe they are called pistils after reading some more.

I understand the concept of 6/9 now and im willing to give it a good run. Though i think I will have to supplement some calmag cause i never precharged. I have to do some experimenting.

The feed you posted...although not quite a proper ratio for coco....mostly washed out with that run off.

Your feed is very lite....don't sweat salt build up.Salt build up comes from the coco being dry.And like i said with such a small amount of food chances of any build up are slim to none.If you had not been getting run off.....guess what would be happening in all the coco that has no roots in it yet to feed and absorb those nutes?Those nutes would slowly start to accumulate....slowly building higher and higher.So pat your self on the back for at least watering to run off.I think i also saw in the other thread you did some flushing with straight water?Never plain water....till the end.A very small amount of food with good amount of run off if you had to flush.CEC is another subject in it's own.....we can get into that at a later time.No more watering at lights out....water when they come on.She'd be happier waking up and having a meal vs eating and then going to bed......kinda like us......breakfast is better for us than eating then hitting the sack right?Water....r/o or tap?And you are using a half gl of water and getting 10-20 % run off?When i did runs in 3 gl pots of coco i had to give pretty much a gl per container.I'm running just under 2gl....1.7gl i believe they are and half gl of waters would give me about 20% or a little bit more.


Damn just realized i forgot what paragraphs are lol...my bad.

My suggestion is let it dry out...6 mil micro 9 mil bloom....let it dry between a feed or 2.

My definition of "let it dry"....go by weight....pick up your container...2 hands while it is soaked......let it get down to say 15ish 20ish percent of your saturated pot weight.Not completely dry.

 

[Pauliewogs]

I can tell you this much from the little experience i do have. The blurple LED lights do better then people think. Youll see a lot of negative comment on this site about them but they're usually the ones whos never used them to grow. Now dont get me wrong if you plan on doing more then 3 or 4 plants go with mh or hps but for what were doing theyre perfect. I keep mine close about 7 " I even put a 100w led cob on it too lol. Never saw any signs of light burn. Your plant looks good just keep doing what you're doing and youll be smokin in no time. Id maybe ease up on the watering a bit though.

Yeah for sure im easing up starting tonight. Her last feed was 9pm last night. I also have one of the "blurple" lights except mine leans more towards the pink side of things. Right around 52% red 37% blue and the rest green/white light.

The feed you posted...although not quite a proper ratio for coco....mostly washed out with that run off.

Your feed is very lite....don't sweat salt build up.Salt build up comes from the coco being dry.And like i said with such a small amount of food chances of any build up are slim to none.If you had not been getting run off.....guess what would be happening in all the coco that has no roots in it yet to feed and absorb those nutes?Those nutes would slowly start to accumulate....slowly building higher and higher.So pat your self on the back for at least watering to run off.I think i also saw in the other thread you did some flushing with straight water?Never plain water....till the end.A very small amount of food with good amount of run off if you had to flush.CEC is another subject in it's own.....we can get into that at a later time.No more watering at lights out....water when they come on.She'd be happier waking up and having a meal vs eating and then going to bed......kinda like us......breakfast is better for us than eating then hitting the sack right?Water....r/o or tap?And you are using a half gl of water and getting 10-20 % run off?When i did runs in 3 gl pots of coco i had to give pretty much a gl per container.I'm running just under 2gl....1.7gl i believe they are and half gl of waters would give me about 20% or a little bit more.


Damn just realized i forgot what paragraphs are lol...my bad.

My suggestion is let it dry out...6 mil micro 9 mil bloom....let it dry between a feed or 2.

My definition of "let it dry"....go by weight....pick up your container...2 hands while it is soaked......let it get down to say 15ish 20ish percent of your saturated pot weight.Not completely dry.

Ive been using half of the recommended amount on the GH website but this modified formula for coco has me intrigued. Have you personally used the 6/9 with good results?

 

[JimmyTheNewb]

Yeah for sure im easing up starting tonight. Her last feed was 9pm last night. I also have one of the "blurple" lights except mine leans more towards the pink side of things. Right around 52% red 37% blue and the rest green/white light.

Ive been using half of the recommended amount on the GH website but this modified formula for coco has me intrigued. Have you personally used the 6/9 with good results?

Mine leans a lot more to the pink side. I think my ratio is something like 3 reds to 1 blue. Ive had pretty good results on mine and ill keep using it. Got a 400w hps/mh i could use but dont. Like i said for what were trying to accomplish it works great. Maybe in the winter time i might switch over

 

[vertnugs]

Ive been using half of the recommended amount on the GH website but this modified formula for coco has me intrigued. Have you personally used the 6/9 with good results?

Yes.

At the moment i run floranova bloom as i was given quite a bit a few months ago.

 

[Pauliewogs]

Yes.

At the moment i run floranova bloom as i was given quite a bit a few months ago.

Alright cool. Ill start her out on the 6/9 right with her next feeding coming up. Watered over 24 hrs ago and shes still wet on top so im going to wait a bit longer. I went ahead and added the epsoms to the solution even though H3ad stopped using them. The flowers are starting to come out now. Little white hair things from behind the green spikes. Should i change to a stronger solution during flowering?

 

[vertnugs]

Being wet on top should give you an idea of what i've been saying.If you had the root system you should have after being in that pot for how long now..a month?....it would be dry.

6/9 is all ya need....no higher.

You still have not said what kind of water you are using.....this plays a big part.

And go by the weight of the container......this is the easiest way for a beginner to grasp watering.

 

[Pauliewogs]

Being wet on top should give you an idea of what i've been saying.If you had the root system you should have after being in that pot for how long now..a month?....it would be dry.

6/9 is all ya need....no higher.

You still have not said what kind of water you are using.....this plays a big part.

And go by the weight of the container......this is the easiest way for a beginner to grasp watering.

Yeh i did in the OP. At least i thought i did. A bit tipsy right now so forgive me if I'm wrong. I water half RO and half tap. I would do all tap if my EC wasnt .7 im doing the best with what resources I have at my disposal atm

 

[Pauliewogs]

Yeh i did in the OP. At least i thought i did. A bit tipsy right now so forgive me if I'm wrong. I water half RO and half tap. I would do all tap if my EC wasnt .7 im doing the best with what resources I have at my disposal atm

Being wet on top should give you an idea of what i've been saying.If you had the root system you should have after being in that pot for how long now..a month?....it would be dry.

6/9 is all ya need....no higher.

You still have not said what kind of water you are using.....this plays a big part.

And go by the weight of the container......this is the easiest way for a beginner to grasp watering.

The RO water that I buybis from the market and I really dont want to pay .87 for each gallon of solution I mix up. So i do half and half to knock the costs down. Plus, I figure I keep some additional beneficial minerals by using half tap

 

[Buyfrommycity]

Sometimes you gotta remember the golden rule. K.I.S.S.

Keep it simple stupid!

It's a weed.

Next grow use soil, lights and water.

You're using a hydroponic medium and trying to treat it like soil.

Youre taking advice from a guy who has been on forums for like 2 weeks and no pics of his own grows.

I believe he probably has expierence growing based on the questions he asks, but you should always consider all opinions offered and decide what works best for you.

Going forward what I would do with your set up...

1. Transplant to a larger bag mix in soil

2. Move light closer

3. Stop using nutes

4. If it's an auto keep it on 24/7 till it flowers on its own

The only reason I suggest a larger bag is so you can add soil

Adding soil will not only buffer your tap water, but save you from having to buy RO water

Stop using nutes because most soil already has what it needs in it for at least a couple weeks.

I don't expect you to follow my directions but it's just my opinion. I hope u don't find this post aggressive and just as helpful suggestions. As that's the way I am trying to be. Good luck!

 

[jane621]

(PICTURES BELOW)
Setup and Strain info:

Carmelicious auto-flower fem MSNL seedbank started using paper towel method.

3 gallon fabric pot with Roots Organics coco coir that was rinsed profusely (no additives or perlite) I plan to use perlite next grow.

6th Week birthday was on July 1, 2017 I don't know why she is so small but I assume its because I went against my better judgment and transplanted her a week or 2 in. Though she seems to be growing very bushy and not tall.

Shes under a 250watt LED grow light (actual) and has been on an 18/6 light schedule since week 3. Before that she was on 24/7. Next grow i will do 18/6 from the beginning to encourage early root growth. The light currently sits about 20 inches from the top of the plant. I just raised 2 inches because I saw a bit of tacoing in one of my leaves. Better safe than sorry

Water and feed daily with half strength GH trio and a about 4ml of calmag as I had an iron deficiency early on and these nutes are really lacking in the calcium department from what I've read. (Calmag has iron) I PH each feeding to right around a high 5.6 to low 5.7. I figure that the higher ph of my medum will cause some beneficial back and forth between 5.6 and 6. The PH of the coco typically sits between 6 and 6.5

Small fan blowing on her 24/7

Pretty decent temperatures all grow. Never goes above 85 and rarely even gets there. Average temp is right around 80. Humidity sits at a steady 40-50%

If she doesnt start producing buds by thursday, im going to switch her over to a 12/12 light schedule. Maybe shes got more photoperiod in her than auto. We will see.

Please comment your thoughts, concerns ideas and hate. Seriously I want it all. I think I have found my passion and Im loving every second of growing this girl so anything to make me a better parent would be more than appreciated. Happy Grows!


She sits about 5 inches tall from coco to tip. A bit short but her width is nice. Leaves are a nice deep green.
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Look at all those juicy nodes. And whats that? Its officially a girl ladies and gentlemen. Quick question here: these are what are called PREFLOWERS, yes?
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I have no clue whats happened in these two pictures. Somehow her leaves got damaged. Are tears like this a normal occurrence? I have a leaf that has a single hole in the center that ive decided had to do with light reflecting off of a droplet and burning through the leaf.
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Enviornment. Its MUCH brighter in person. 250watt LED actual KINGBO grow light shining down on the star of the show. She rests upon a plastic pot lift designed to raise plants off the ground. This keeps her from sitting in runoff.
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Thanks for checking out my very first grow! More to come if requested. Much love.

-Paulie

pretty cool, bro

 

[Pauliewogs]

Sometimes you gotta remember the golden rule. K.I.S.S.

Keep it simple stupid!

It's a weed.

Next grow use soil, lights and water.

You're using a hydroponic medium and trying to treat it like soil.

Youre taking advice from a guy who has been on forums for like 2 weeks and no pics of his own grows.

I believe he probably has expierence growing based on the questions he asks, but you should always consider all opinions offered and decide what works best for you.

Going forward what I would do with your set up...

1. Transplant to a larger bag mix in soil

2. Move light closer

3. Stop using nutes

4. If it's an auto keep it on 24/7 till it flowers on its own

The only reason I suggest a larger bag is so you can add soil

Adding soil will not only buffer your tap water, but save you from having to buy RO water

Stop using nutes because most soil already has what it needs in it for at least a couple weeks.

I don't expect you to follow my directions but it's just my opinion. I hope u don't find this post aggressive and just as helpful suggestions. As that's the way I am trying to be. Good luck!

Nah man. I appreciate every point of view. Thank you for taking the time ti comment!

 

[vertnugs]

The RO water that I buybis from the market and I really dont want to pay .87 for each gallon of solution I mix up. So i do half and half to knock the costs down. Plus, I figure I keep some additional beneficial minerals by using half tap

K cool.Stick with it.

 

[vertnugs]

Sometimes you gotta remember the golden rule. K.I.S.S.

Keep it simple stupid!

It's a weed.

Next grow use soil, lights and water.

You're using a hydroponic medium and trying to treat it like soil.

Youre taking advice from a guy who has been on forums for like 2 weeks and no pics of his own grows.

I believe he probably has expierence growing based on the questions he asks, but you should always consider all opinions offered and decide what works best for you.

Going forward what I would do with your set up...

1. Transplant to a larger bag mix in soil

2. Move light closer

3. Stop using nutes

4. If it's an auto keep it on 24/7 till it flowers on its own

The only reason I suggest a larger bag is so you can add soil

Adding soil will not only buffer your tap water, but save you from having to buy RO water

Stop using nutes because most soil already has what it needs in it for at least a couple weeks.

I don't expect you to follow my directions but it's just my opinion. I hope u don't find this post aggressive and just as helpful suggestions. As that's the way I am trying to be. Good luck!

So this is your advice huh.

You know so much about growing in coco yet you have offered not a shitfucks worth of solid information pertaining to what Paulies dealing with.

Please give your opinion on why his plant is still so small after like 6 weeks and why his pot of coco isn't drying?


Then....explain to him how it needs to be fixed.....not the crap you posted above.....because none of that or any thing else you've post in here pertains to the situation.Nothing you posted above is a "helpful suggestion" considering his "current" grow.