PH levels KEEP RISING....how do i stop this?

bdt1981

Well-Known Member
Have found the answer to my ph issue.... 3 days running on 6.0 hasnt moved at all
Dump the aquarium pump and stones. Your creating max dissolved oxygen levels with the spray heads in the tubes.....provided your nutrient solution doesnt get too warm. Keep it cool as possible.
Wouldnt dream of doing any type of hydro without absolute control of res temp. Not having a chiller would ba a great reason to gro in soil. Chiller is as important as having any system, it was the first thing i got after getting my aeroflo
 

Budley Doright

Well-Known Member
Have found the answer to my ph issue.... 3 days running on 6.0 hasnt moved at all

Wouldnt dream of doing any type of hydro without absolute control of res temp. Not having a chiller would ba a great reason to gro in soil. Chiller is as important as having any system, it was the first thing i got after getting my aeroflo
Very wise move! Wish I would have done that.
 

since1991

Well-Known Member
I let all the true water based hydroponic systems go a long time ago. Seemed like i was always chained to my house and grow. Always anticipating something going wrong. Once up and running and dialed...my dwc nft and aero dealys were very nice. Veg growth was FAST. But man...they were definitely not low maintenance systems to run. If something went wrong...plants suffered in a hurry. I went to coco coir awhile back and got that medium safety buffer back. Consistency every since. And with a drip manifold...running a non recirculating system...i havent been worried about my rooms in forever.
 

Budley Doright

Well-Known Member
I was seriously considering doing drain to waste but honestly since the chiller went in I don't have to worry much other than a pump quiting but before the chiller yes it was a chore to keep things stable. Now I don't really do much in between refills other than move the light higher :). I'm still thinking of changing but only to get away from the trays to allow more flexibility in moving the plants to stagger timing. I can go away for a week at a time and yes I still worry but needlessly so far :). I still rely on outdoor grows to fill the coffers and indoors for strain hunting and a hobby :).
 

since1991

Well-Known Member
Back then....we didnt have readily available chillers. Like ones you can just go to the grow shop and buy. I had friends that tried all the whacky ideas like car radiators and what not. Lots of growroom equipment nowadays just wasnt out yet. Or if it was...very expensive. The first co2 ppm controllers were in the thousands. Lol. I remember when they first came out. CAP and Green Air Products. We all jist used timers and analog environment controllers that just sucked. Same with exhaust fans. All we had way back were squirrel cage loud ass blowers. Inline ufo shaped efficent and quiet (less noisy) fans came much later. Tents...digital ballasts. ..charcoal filters. All that stuff was either new and pricey or non existent. Speaking of charcoal filters...back then we had so called "ion fountains". God what a joke those were. And ozone generators that are still available but quircky and retarded in my opinion.
 

Budley Doright

Well-Known Member
Back then....we didnt have readily available chillers. Like ones you can just go to the grow shop and buy. I had friends that tried all the whacky ideas like car radiators and what not. Lots of growroom equipment nowadays just wasnt out yet. Or if it was...very expensive. The first co2 ppm controllers were in the thousands. Lol. I remember when they first came out. CAP and Green Air Products. We all jist used timers and analog environment controllers that just sucked. Same with exhaust fans. All we had way back were squirrel cage loud ass blowers. Inline ufo shaped efficent and quiet (less noisy) fans came much later. Tents...digital ballasts. ..charcoal filters. All that stuff was either new and pricey or non existent. Speaking of charcoal filters...back then we had so called "ion fountains". God what a joke those were. And ozone generators that are still available but quircky and retarded in my opinion.
My chiller is a passive type with about 200' of copper tubing coiled under ground (kind of lol) with glycol running, tube in tube exchangers transfer heat from the res to the loops. Works great in the colder months when I'm indoors :).
 

big bud 56

Active Member
Hello,
I use water from the tap since where I live the water coming from my tap is already R/O water.
The city runs an R/O system and it gets filtered before it gets to me.
The only thing I have to do is leave the water sit for a day to let the chlorine evaporate.
The PH is kind of high coming out,around 7.0 so I always PH my water before I flush my hydro system.
I use PH down and get it around 5.5 to 6.5.
Try to PH your water before adding it to your system.
 

OldMedUser

Well-Known Member
Hello,
I use water from the tap since where I live the water coming from my tap is already R/O water.
The city runs an R/O system and it gets filtered before it gets to me.
The only thing I have to do is leave the water sit for a day to let the chlorine evaporate.
The PH is kind of high coming out,around 7.0 so I always PH my water before I flush my hydro system.
I use PH down and get it around 5.5 to 6.5.
Try to PH your water before adding it to your system.
Dream on. There is no way any city or even a small town uses reverse osmosis to treat municipal water supplies. If you're paying $100/cube then maybe. Cube = 1 cubic meter = 1000L or 264.17USG

PM me the name of your town and I'll tell you what's in your tap water once I see their publicly available reports.

Vancouver, BC has/had some of the best tap water in the world and ranked in the top 5 for decades but I haven't checked in to that for almost 20 years since I moved up north in Alberta. Tap water in town here is 400+ ppm and very high in Na, Fe, Mn along with the Ca/Mg carbonates that make hard water hard. Will totally screw up any plants watered with that crap unless flushed every 5 waterings.

I go buy RO water that tests under 10ppm for all my growing needs and also for drinking and putting thru my $150 BUNN coffee maker that still makes a 12 cup pot in 3 minutes 5 years later. $3/20L jug and worth every penny!

:peace:
 

big bud 56

Active Member
Dream on. There is no way any city or even a small town uses reverse osmosis to treat municipal water supplies. If you're paying $100/cube then maybe. Cube = 1 cubic meter = 1000L or 264.17USG

PM me the name of your town and I'll tell you what's in your tap water once I see their publicly available reports.

Vancouver, BC has/had some of the best tap water in the world and ranked in the top 5 for decades but I haven't checked in to that for almost 20 years since I moved up north in Alberta. Tap water in town here is 400+ ppm and very high in Na, Fe, Mn along with the Ca/Mg carbonates that make hard water hard. Will totally screw up any plants watered with that crap unless flushed every 5 waterings.

I go buy RO water that tests under 10ppm for all my growing needs and also for drinking and putting thru my $150 BUNN coffee maker that still makes a 12 cup pot in 3 minutes 5 years later. $3/20L jug and worth every penny!

:peace:
Since you live in Canada which is a totally different world then the United States then you have no right to say I'm wrong.
I'm not going to pm you anything about where I live,just know that it's in the United states and yes my town has an r/o reclamation plant that gets r/o filtered before it is sent back out.
I would suggest you doing some research on how this is possible while at the same time keeping the cost to do so to a reasonable amount.
you have doubts then research just don't start throwing doubts around.
 

OldMedUser

Well-Known Member
I did go off a little half-cocked or was that half a little-cock. ;)

If you are sure your town uses RO filtration for your tap water then I'm willing to take your word for it and shouldn't make assumptions.

I have read that they use RO to filter water from de-salination plants as it is much cheaper and less energy intensive than distillation.

I stand corrected. :hug:

:peace:
 

big bud 56

Active Member
I did go off a little half-cocked or was that half a little-cock. ;)

If you are sure your town uses RO filtration for your tap water then I'm willing to take your word for it and shouldn't make assumptions.

I have read that they use RO to filter water from de-salination plants as it is much cheaper and less energy intensive than distillation.

I stand corrected. :hug:

:peace:
No problem.
 

bryan100030

Member
Hi RIU!!! Iam growing a single Skunk #1 plant under a 600w HID in a 5 gallon bucket DWC system with Lava rock and Rockwool cube. My seed has sprouted 2 days ago and is about 1" tall with its first set of true leafs appearing with White tips, but looks healthy. Currently in a humidity dome on heating mat growing daily and healthy. No nutes used yet except Rapidroot from General Hydroponics (one drop in a gallon). If any one has any tips on growing this strain, such as height, proper ph, and ppm, or even a grow log that was successful, please assist. Thank you all.
 

Budley Doright

Well-Known Member
Hi RIU!!! Iam growing a single Skunk #1 plant under a 600w HID in a 5 gallon bucket DWC system with Lava rock and Rockwool cube. My seed has sprouted 2 days ago and is about 1" tall with its first set of true leafs appearing with White tips, but looks healthy. Currently in a humidity dome on heating mat growing daily and healthy. No nutes used yet except Rapidroot from General Hydroponics (one drop in a gallon). If any one has any tips on growing this strain, such as height, proper ph, and ppm, or even a grow log that was successful, please assist. Thank you all.
Take off the dome would be my first on the to do list. I've never had good luck with them and there not required. White tips are not a good sign :(. Perhaps your watering to much maybe.
 

bryan100030

Member
Take off the dome would be my first on the to do list. I've never had good luck with them and there not required. White tips are not a good sign :(. Perhaps your watering to much maybe.
Last time I had my babie out of the humidity dome, she dried out, I touched her and she broke right in half. This was when I was living up North, Now I live in the South, with a higher natural humidity. So my logical thinking is telling me that it will be ok, but dont want to chance it. You sure its a good idea to remove humidity dome??? Thanks bud!
 

Budley Doright

Well-Known Member
Last time I had my babie out of the humidity dome, she dried out, I touched her and she broke right in half. This was when I was living up North, Now I live in the South, with a higher natural humidity. So my logical thinking is telling me that it will be ok, but dont want to chance it. You sure its a good idea to remove humidity dome??? Thanks bud!
I've used a dome on seedlings maybe once or twice years ago and my experience was they get to lanky due to the diffused light and moisture. But if your worried leave it, I certainly don't want to be responsible for the death of a baby lol. I do mist my girls when their little sometimes but not a rule. Plants shouldn't dry out without a dome, what's the RH of your room?
 

bryan100030

Member
Thank you Budley for helping out!!! The RH in my tent is 77% and temp is 84. I have removed the dome, as what you stated, seedlings being lanky, is true with mine, and it has had a dome since day one. I will keep it off, and am placeing a fan on it, low setting. what is optimal RH and temp for seedling???
 

bryan100030

Member
Heres another photo, earlier it was standing up straight, when dome was on. About an hour after I took dome off, it is leaning over I believe due to an over water. It seems like it is still doing good/alive, I got the fan set up more in the corner, as far away as possible on low setting. what you guys think???Day 5 Overwater.jpg Day 5 SetUpFan.jpg
 

Budget Buds

Well-Known Member
Heres another photo, earlier it was standing up straight, when dome was on. About an hour after I took dome off, it is leaning over I believe due to an over water. It seems like it is still doing good/alive, I got the fan set up more in the corner, as far away as possible on low setting. what you guys think???View attachment 3977016 View attachment 3977018
It will be fine homes, they or it just has to acclimate to it's environment, EDIT BUDLEY IS CORRECT, NO DOME UNLESS IT'S A CUTTING, A SEEDLING WONT NEED THE SAME HELP A CLONE NEEDS :p
 
Top