Lightgreen2k
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I actually did this, this run of mine. I have done it to some plants and left others. I read on another fourm where they will peel of the two small fans leaves off the budsite.
Pinching top of buds (Backbuilding) technique
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Dutchieman420
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Nice, tis an older technique
churchhaze
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I'm confused. The same technique can be used to speed up bud maturation but also manipulate early budding stage to be longer? This can also be done branch by branch? How much faster do the pinched buds finish compared to non pinched buds, how much longer do your manipulated slowed down buds take to finish than the ones you make mature faster? Seems slowing down or prolonging the budding process would cost more $$ in electricity and give less harvests over say a years time, what benefits do you find from doing this? Thanks
Dutchieman420
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The benefit comes from the topping imo, most of the time I have to top plants whether they are getting to big or I just feel like smoking indoor sooner
I run lights year round both veg and flower so power isn't a worry for me.
If I see a plant needs to be topped doing the pinching prior to the cutting gives whichever branch u decide to work with I would say a head start of anywhere from 2 to 3 weeks over the unpinched
I have used it in a pinch a couple times as well no pun intended
But say on a grillagrow or say the cops come by and tell u your garden is getting to big and u have x amount of time to get it out or downsize to avoid trouble it can be applied here
If you pinch then top the whole branch the rest of the plant will continue normally
Pinch and only cut off the small amount which was pinched and this will prolong the mid flowering period resulting in a longer duration of life
i just pinched the tops of my buds lastnight in the 3rd week of flower not cut the top off just a trama pinch one ripped by accident but cant change nothing gotta see what she does its a sour d clone....
Dabbinblunted
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Don't fucking do it!
ahhhh i did it already once..
dubekoms
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When I was younger I grew with my buddy at his house. We were growing 2 white widows from Nirvana. They were about maybe 3-4 weeks in flower and doing great until my friends dad decided to pick off the tips of each bud from one plant for some quick smoke. He's a fucktard I know. Thought we wouldn't notice lol but it was his house so we couldn't do anything. The only thing it did was stress the fuck out of her,slow growth...all that good stuff. Got like half of what we should've gotten from that plant.
Now I'm not saying this is the same technique but for anyone thinking its a good idea to pinch your buds while 3-4 weeks flowering please don't. Or at least do it to only a couple plants. Idk just don't be a fuckhead. I like to just let my shit do their thing. Maybe some topping but no flushing, defol,pruning in flower or whatever else. I dont like people fuckin with me and I think my plants are the same way. Jmho sorry for the useless rambling
Now I'm not saying this is the same technique but for anyone thinking its a good idea to pinch your buds while 3-4 weeks flowering please don't. Or at least do it to only a couple plants. Idk just don't be a fuckhead. I like to just let my shit do their thing. Maybe some topping but no flushing, defol,pruning in flower or whatever else. I dont like people fuckin with me and I think my plants are the same way. Jmho sorry for the useless rambling
Johnei
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Cutting any part of the plant off is stress. The plant then sends warrior immune system helpers and isolaters to seal the site and perhaps stop infection. Plant power is finite, if power was used for healing, power was taken from somewhere else. the yield suffers. There is no denying this. I don't buy this technique, if you can call it that. It is plant stress induction.
If you cut the tip of your finger off while chopping some carrots for a stew and have a big zit on your face same time, after you get the finger injury dealt with, this zit will take longer to disappear then it would without the finger injury as finite immune system power is spread to do multiple things at once. What do you think is taking place inside the body when injury occurs, this is same as plant, energy is redirected away from growth, same as if child had major injury in grow phase, he can be stunted child, energy is finite, not infinite.
If you cut the tip of your finger off while chopping some carrots for a stew and have a big zit on your face same time, after you get the finger injury dealt with, this zit will take longer to disappear then it would without the finger injury as finite immune system power is spread to do multiple things at once. What do you think is taking place inside the body when injury occurs, this is same as plant, energy is redirected away from growth, same as if child had major injury in grow phase, he can be stunted child, energy is finite, not infinite.
Johnei
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Also, for any argument that may come my way stating that man is different than plant and what I say does not apply. Consider in veg what I said compared to man, flowering is old man in hospital living his last days, apply cut finger to this man, like plant in ending days, do you want the man, or plant to send immune system out to do repair jobs due to injury, redirecting vital finite power during final push of life, wasted potential.
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Chief Chieferton
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The bud stuff or pinch or backbuild or whatever you call it is legit. If the concept is understood and done correctly results are obvious.
Roger A. Shrubber
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i don't think it works, but even if it does, wheres the benefit? you get a short fat bud instead of a long fat bud? the plant has a certain potential within it, the best we can do is bring as much of that potential to light as we're able. i don't think this is the way to achieve that.
this thread started in may, and not one person espousing this technique has posted a picture of their pinched buds while growing, getting insanely fat....show me the big fat buds that make this worthwhile. i see people saying that those who don't like this idea have never tried it....as far as i can see, no one in this entire thread has ever tried it...show me some proof and i'll rethink my position.....keep telling me the goose lays golden eggs, and i'll keep considering this the fairy tale that it is
this thread started in may, and not one person espousing this technique has posted a picture of their pinched buds while growing, getting insanely fat....show me the big fat buds that make this worthwhile. i see people saying that those who don't like this idea have never tried it....as far as i can see, no one in this entire thread has ever tried it...show me some proof and i'll rethink my position.....keep telling me the goose lays golden eggs, and i'll keep considering this the fairy tale that it is
Xs121
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I've done it before and I'll never do it again.
When you pinch a nug, you're just stunting the potential of that nug to get bigger. Yes it would swell a little bit in response to the growth hormone that is still in the nug but then the plant would just simply divert that energy to other active growing area of the plant.
It's like telling the plant to stop sending grow energy to this nug.
Whatever growth rate is pathetic compared to if you have just left that nug alone. The real problem is...is the inability of the grower to provide the proper condition (environment, nute, light, etc.) for the nug to continue growing until it matures.
When you pinch a nug, you're just stunting the potential of that nug to get bigger. Yes it would swell a little bit in response to the growth hormone that is still in the nug but then the plant would just simply divert that energy to other active growing area of the plant.
It's like telling the plant to stop sending grow energy to this nug.
Whatever growth rate is pathetic compared to if you have just left that nug alone. The real problem is...is the inability of the grower to provide the proper condition (environment, nute, light, etc.) for the nug to continue growing until it matures.