My First Grow with cfl's

samsosa

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We're all pulling for you doc. Hope everthing stays ok. Nice job and good luck with the slight problem. You'll get by it, I'm sure. Peace
 

Dr.Chronic

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Okay so there is a 50% chance she will die and a 50% chance she will pull through. I had to cut most of the fan leaves off because they died off. I have fed her full strength Tiger Bloom (2-8-4) and Grow Big (6-4-4) plus a decent amount of Big bloom to eliminate any possibility of deficiencies. The buds are still growing good and the inner foliage is still unaffected by the unknown death. My pH is sitting pretty at 6.2. The lights are not too close my humidity is less than 40% and there is plenty ventilation. This all happened right after i reduced the plant to 1/4 strength nutes and now im fucking:wall::wall::wall: cause it may be too late for her. Anyways im just posting pics of the buds cause im fucking embarrassed at how bad the rest of the plant looks right now. Well whatever if she dies i picked up alot from this first grow. I hope she toughs it out though.



It looks good here but as you can see in the background the fan leave is 50% completely brown and crispy. And that was one of the better looking fan leaves i didn't chop of. The one's with more than 50% brown and crispy all get cut off. Which was like 80% of the big fan leaves. The top fan leaves have black and brown necrotic spots but i left them on there because they are attached to the main cola. I left every leaf set/branch that was attached to any buds i left on the plant but most of them were just attached to the main stem.

 

xtcody

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Just stopped by to see how she was doing. I was skimming through the last couple pages to catch up and she was looking AWESOME! I'm sure she will pull through. Just curious on the smell, how she smell?
 

makinthemagic

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Okay so there is a 50% chance she will die and a 50% chance she will pull through. I had to cut most of the fan leaves off because they died off. I have fed her full strength Tiger Bloom (2-8-4) and Grow Big (6-4-4) plus a decent amount of Big bloom to eliminate any possibility of deficiencies. The buds are still growing good and the inner foliage is still unaffected by the unknown death. My pH is sitting pretty at 6.2. The lights are not too close my humidity is less than 40% and there is plenty ventilation. This all happened right after i reduced the plant to 1/4 strength nutes and now im fucking:wall::wall::wall: cause it may be too late for her. Anyways im just posting pics of the buds cause im fucking embarrassed at how bad the rest of the plant looks right now. Well whatever if she dies i picked up alot from this first grow. I hope she toughs it out though.



It looks good here but as you can see in the background the fan leave is 50% completely brown and crispy. And that was one of the better looking fan leaves i didn't chop of. The one's with more than 50% brown and crispy all get cut off. Which was like 80% of the big fan leaves. The top fan leaves have black and brown necrotic spots but i left them on there because they are attached to the main cola. I left every leaf set/branch that was attached to any buds i left on the plant but most of them were just attached to the main stem.

i don't know why but this post reminded me of the "hairy vs shaved" thread over in toke n talk.
 

TheDankness

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Chronic man, I don't think it was a bad thing cutting off nutes, from what I can see in the back round she is burnt to shit. From what I hear deficiencies take a while to cause serious damage to a plant. I'm guessing you're in the same boat as me right now, nutrient lockout. Try starting a new thread under plant problems with pics. I got help in minutes. If you want my advice, I would flush the plant, not give it more nutes. You could be compounding the problem. You have to find out whats actually going wrong before you can effectively fix it.
 

Dr.Chronic

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Chronic man, I don't think it was a bad thing cutting off nutes, from what I can see in the back round she is burnt to shit. From what I hear deficiencies take a while to cause serious damage to a plant. I'm guessing you're in the same boat as me right now, nutrient lockout. Try starting a new thread under plant problems with pics. I got help in minutes. If you want my advice, I would flush the plant, not give it more nutes. You could be compounding the problem. You have to find out whats actually going wrong before you can effectively fix it.
:leaf::leaf: See that's what i thought dude. I pH'd her and flushed her a few days ago. At this point since i added the nutes it hasnt gotten too much worse. The buds are still fine but i don't see too much significant different in the rest of the plant. :leaf::leaf:
 

TheDankness

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well thats weird that its not nute burn, it looks like the leaves on your buds may have a slight case of "the claw". I have only ever really seen the claw on over nuted plants, maybe you didn't flush them enough? I don't know, did you try to make a thread just for the problem in plant problems? I got quick responses.
 

koolhand77

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it's intresting that your having problems right about the same timeI am with bag seed. I don't know but I know that matso101 used half bloomnites and half beg nutes when he went into to flowering because I guess you will get yellowing of the leaves. I say flush it and give it a couple days no nutes and see what happens. i don't know I think I am having root temp control problems.
 

mattso101

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it's intresting that your having problems right about the same timeI am with bag seed. I don't know but I know that matso101 used half bloomnites and half beg nutes when he went into to flowering because I guess you will get yellowing of the leaves. I say flush it and give it a couple days no nutes and see what happens. i don't know I think I am having root temp control problems.
This is true plants really need lots of Nitrogen during the first few weeks of flower. But also need P and k to produce bud.I Always give my plants pure veg nutes for the first three weeks of flower. Plants need alot of N nuring the stretch stage For energy for upwards growth. If its not there the plants will be short stunted and yellow very early not yielding ver much. Trust me I learned on my fist grow. I yielding only 1/2 ounce off two plants. Now I can yield 6-8 ounces off two plants
 

koolhand77

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This is true plants really need lots of Nitrogen during the first few weeks of flower. But also need P and k to produce bud.I Always give my plants pure veg nutes for the first three weeks of flower. Plants need alot of N nuring the stretch stage For energy for upwards growth. If its not there the plants will be short stunted and yellow very early not yielding ver much. Trust me I learned on my fist grow. I yielding only 1/2 ounce off two plants. Now I can yield 6-8 ounces off two plants
I read through most of your grow. It was most impressive. I wanted to quit my dwc and go coco perlite but, I will someday. You ever think of going DWC or Aero?
 

mattso101

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I read through most of your grow. It was most impressive. I wanted to quit my dwc and go coco perlite but, I will someday. You ever think of going DWC or Aero?
Too compicated for mme. I need somthing easy with some sort of buffer so I don't fuck up. Just keep it somple
 

Dr.Chronic

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I just flushed last week. I dont think another flushing is going to do good. I don't know i want some other opinions. For now she is holding on.






You can see how fucked up the big fan leaf looks in the background.
 

koolhand77

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You said you flushed it just bring back the nutes water when needed and let her go. you are only dealing with bagseed. The genetcis of this plant arent gonna be great. I just have to remember that myself. And pics up close of the spot problem I would like to look at it. How r your roots there not pot bound r they? She's not buried too deep is she?
 

TheDankness

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I am going to re-iterate here and say that I HAVE ONLY EVER SEEN THE CLAW ON OVER NUTED PLANTS, check the grow faq guys, this plant is going to keel over if you feed it more nutes... I bet the leaves feel crispy, don't they? Had the same thing from MG soil about 8 weeks ago and flush, flush, flush, and what do you know? Improvement followed, but it does take more than one flush...
 
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