Mark Blyth, the economist who's making sense

[ttystikk]

You are not just ignorant, you know better and you understood the argument, gringo. He didn't just say some people voted against their interest, he said a certain racial group did and listed a bunch of generalizations about them.

Also, you're not being systematically oppressed, gringo. You're not a victim of racism. You keep calling me hypocrite but your hypocrisy is obvious.

Nah. Your argument is the same as saying that calling a black person a ni**er isn't racist. But it is, and so are you.

The last defense of a hypocrite is to accuse others of the same.

Your attempts to bully me are transparent. It's clear you have no ideas of your own but hate those who do. Sad and boring.

 

[abandonconflict]

So, it doesn't matter that he may be a criminal, just so long as we all get free college. Got it.

So far, since I have joined, you have called me:
Loser
Simpleminded
Sycophant
Unoriginal

And all because I disagree with you about a politician you like. How are you any different than a Trump supporter? Sad.

All that systematic oppression against gringos must be clouding his judgment.

 

[ttystikk]

"It doesn't matter that he may be a criminal, he's going to give me free college, you unoriginal, sycophantic, simple minded loser."

You are salty. And your message is tired.

You've contributed nothing and you're deliberately baiting me. And you're dogpiling with the rest who are attempting to bully me.

Sycophant.

 

[_gresh_]

You've contributed nothing and you're deliberately baiting me. And you're dogpiling with the rest who are attempting to bully me.

Sycophant.

Cry some more, please.

 

[abandonconflict]

Nah. Your argument is the same as saying that calling a black person a ni**er isn't racist.

No, that is completely different from my argument. My argument is that you are not being systematically oppressed, so you're not a victim of racism. Black people have been systematically oppressed since long before the country was founded so they are not the same, gringo.

 

[ttystikk]

Racism and suppression of women is also embedded in our economy. Yet "more jobs" will fix all that.

How would more jobs for these groups hurt their cause?

 

[ttystikk]

Shut up, gringo.

Repeating yourself is spamming our site.
Racist.

Hypocrite.

 

[abandonconflict]

You've contributed nothing and you're deliberately baiting me. And you're dogpiling with the rest who are attempting to bully me.

Sycophant.

deciphering...

"I'm just a poor oppressed white guy."

 

[ttystikk]

Cry some more, please.

No original thoughts at all. No wonder you like abandon reason.

 

[abandonconflict]

How would more jobs for these groups hurt their cause?

deciphering...

"who cares if police are murdering black people in the streets and getting rewarded for it with paid vacations if there are more jobs?"

 

[ttystikk]

deciphering...

"I'm just a poor oppressed white guy."

Racist.

Hypocrite.

 

[ttystikk]

deciphering...

"who cares if police are murdering black people in the streets and getting rewarded for it with paid vacations if there are more jobs?"

Show us where Bernie or any one of the rest of us said that.
Hypocrite.

 

[st0wandgrow]

Lots of people on American don't know enough about politics to vote in their own best interest, this is also supported by research, hypocrite.

People always vote in their own best interest. Always.

Fogdog can you expand on this a bit? How do you define someone's "best interests"? I agree that people vote for their own self interests, but is that the same as their best interests?

Trump is a good example of this. I would venture to say that a lot of people voted for Trump because they hate "Libs", or they hate Hillary, or they liked the dog whistling that he did during the campaign. Those would be self interests. But are those their best interests?

Would someone that is racist, who cast their vote for trump solely because they liked his tough guy rhetoric towards immigrants, but who would have otherwise benefited economically if Hillary were potus be voting in their *best* interests?

 

[ttystikk]

No, that is completely different from my argument. My argument is that you are not being systematically oppressed, so you're not a victim of racism. Black people have been systematically oppressed since long before the country was founded so they are not the same, gringo.

Systematic oppression is not the only definition of racism. It only requires using epithets based on race like you have.
Racist.

Hypocrite.

 

[abandonconflict]

Show us where Bernie or any one of the rest of us said that.
Hypocrite.

That is what is to be gleaned from this thread.

 

[_gresh_]

Nah. Your argument is the same as saying that calling a black person a ni**er isn't racist. But it is, and so are you.

The last defense of a hypocrite is to accuse others of the same.

Your attempts to bully me are transparent. It's clear you have no ideas of your own but hate those who do. Sad and boring.

I noticed you are giving him a ton of grief for calling you a gringo, but you didn't say shit when your buddy was calling anyone who disagreed with him a fagg*t.

I guess that makes you a hypocrite?

 

[SneekyNinja]

Systematic oppression is not the only definition of racism. It only requires using epithets based on race like you have.
Racist.

Hypocrite.

Lol...

Want me to run through the list of Bernie Baby zingers?

Hypocrite.

 

[tampee]

You're using a race based word as an epithet, racist.

Lots of people on American don't know enough about politics to vote in their own best interest, this is also supported by research, hypocrite.

How does anyone know how to vote in there best interest when they believe Socialism is good?

I can maintain my land, farm and family just fine the government can suck my dick if they want to give my blood and sweat to the ignorant masses! I pay far too much for taxes as is.

 

[SneekyNinja]

I noticed you are giving him a ton of grief for calling you a gringo, but didn't say shit when your buddy was calling anyone who disagreed with him a fagg*t.

I guess that makes you a hypocrite.

Especially because a white person calling another white person a gringo or a cracker literally cannot be racist.

 

[Fogdog]

Grandiosity is acting like the larger fraction of a badly out of power party means anything.

Yes there was a civil war inside the Democratic Party. Until it's resolved they aren't getting back in power. That's how the system works, for better or worse.

I'm through voting for people who don't represent me. That isn't grandiose, that's just taking a stand.

Other people can vote how they like. How is that a grandiose attitude?

65% of the people who make up the Democratic party chose Hillary are still there. And you, sitting in your 35% minority that helped throw the election for Trump and rejoice about that, say:

Lots of people on American don't know enough about politics to vote in their own best interest

This merges perfectly with the feedback I've read concerning minority's views on why they decided to vote for Hillary. Something to the effect: "another white man telling me what's best for me" and "we've been told to push our concerns on the back burner until later and later never arrives".

Fortunately, I think cooler heads will prevail than yours, tty. Not that your concerns won't be met but a coalition that incorporates the issues you advocate with more diverse ideas regarding social and economic equality.

I'm not saying Bernie's platform or Justice Democrats platform is wrong. It's incomplete. It won't be complete until the people who draw up that platform truly represent the whole of diversity in the Democratic Party.