He's in an LED section asking advice about LED..here is some info on lights from a company that sells lights, LMFAO
look close at who is giving you info.
you have a large area to cover, LED will require some DEEP pockets to cover that sq ft
And getting told his choices are shit by site sponsors, why are you so angry that I told him to be careful? seems odd from a NEW member.
do you have a budget? or do you want the best no matter the cost? for that size room, seal it up, supplement with CO2, and slap about 3 to 4 Gavita DE HIDs. in there.
that is some solid advise, BUT, is it the best choice for the square footage he needs to cover? and why can't he be told that LED may not be his best choice? because it's the led section?
OH and BTW, this is a quote from the op
I just feel like at this time, with the current state of HID and LED technologies, LED is always the best choice, regardless of the square footage one needs to cover. Even if DE HPS can come close to LED in efficiency for a slightly cheaper up front cost, DE bulbs (which aren't cheap!) have to be re-purchased every year, multiple times per year in some cases... LED grow lights can last 50,000+ hours (>11 yrs of continuous 12/12) with little to no maintenance at all, so the extra up front cost is quickly made up for in savings from not buying bulbs...that is some solid advise, BUT, is it the best choice for the square footage he needs to cover? and why can't he be told that LED may not be his best choice? because it's the led section?
I haven't replaced my $95 DE bulb in a year and a half and grow close to 3 units per light still. HMMM?
i wish my ceilings were higher or i would have went DE instead of COB. but i'm only in 12 sq ft and COBS made more sense for me. penentration of DE is better than led IMO.
Based on what you said I don't think there's any chance of you being blocked from the thread. You do have a valid point although what Stephen said was true.
We were saying both of those brands were shit long before any advertisers got in here. The reason being they both are shit! Cobs or quantum boards are the way to go
And I don't disagree with that. But. ARE they the best lighting solution for the sq footage the op has to cover? Let's not make this a led vs hps thread. Lets find the op what he is looking for. the best lighting solution for HIS application.
He said he wanted the best right? Price is no object if you want the best. People fail to talk about bulb changes with hps....imhere is some info on lights from a company that sells lights, LMFAO
look close at who is giving you info.
you have a large area to cover, LED will require some DEEP pockets to cover that sq ft
Do you know how to read? They didn't put an add up for their product they said a type of diode is good. they happen to use that diode in their fixture. Be careful listening to these hid fanboys all they care about is startup price. They always jump into led threads an tell people hid is cheaper haha like everyone doesn't know that but I guess stating the obvious is useful sometimes...
another angry highly invested LED user. typical response.
I guess I assumed he had a big light since he has the cash to fill the
If he had the budget to fill that room with black dog or kind he can afford to fill it with cob or mid power diodes which in the long run are a better option.
That depends on who you ask, i don't trust them or consider them good growers, if you look at their grow they got problem with nutrients, problem with lighting, problem with hvac, and totally unimpressive plants. I would seriously take anything said by those two with a few grains of salt, they are just trying to peddle their wares to unsuspecting growers that don't know better.