420Barista
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nope not using this type. was considering it got the containers, pvc, pumps etc but went with soil.
Harvest a Pound Every Three Weeks!
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@Barista- I'm nervous man, I think I'm going to follow my gut and the advice and path of others (you and the OP included 
) and go with soil. I can always switch over down the road. I haven't grown anything in almost a decade and soil also seems like the cheapest way to go. I will DEFINELY use the perpetual method though since my biggest concern is matching the yield and harvest rate Stinky is pulling. Thanks for the advice thus far.
) and go with soil. I can always switch over down the road. I haven't grown anything in almost a decade and soil also seems like the cheapest way to go. I will DEFINELY use the perpetual method though since my biggest concern is matching the yield and harvest rate Stinky is pulling. Thanks for the advice thus far.
GreenTools
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Build one.
420Barista
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8 weeks is not a guarantee for flowering time varies by strain and could run up to 10 weeks with killer results.
the stink bud system says get a pound every three weeks but thats running 3 flower units and every 3 weeks your harvesting 1 of the 3, cloning, vegging, and starting a new batch to flower.
optimally if you have 3 flower tents its easy but who has room? best if you evaluate your space and find all your outlets. figure out what breaker goes to each. amperage of each breaker. and you can watch your load and avoid popping breakers.
in a perfect world you have 3 flower setups, 1 veg, 1 cloner 1 mother 1 drying .
every 3 weeks your harvesting your oldest plants, moving your vegging plants over to the harvested flower area, take your rooted clones and put them in the veg area, take some clones for the next run to veg.
to get the best bang for the buck you want to figure how many pots you can fit in 1 of the 3 flower areas say its a 4x4 tent and remember the pots going in the flower tent are the final transplanted size the bigger they are the less you can fit. so once you figure how many you can fit you know at least how many you need to start off with. and say 25-50% more just in case.
the stink bud system says get a pound every three weeks but thats running 3 flower units and every 3 weeks your harvesting 1 of the 3, cloning, vegging, and starting a new batch to flower.
optimally if you have 3 flower tents its easy but who has room? best if you evaluate your space and find all your outlets. figure out what breaker goes to each. amperage of each breaker. and you can watch your load and avoid popping breakers.
in a perfect world you have 3 flower setups, 1 veg, 1 cloner 1 mother 1 drying .
every 3 weeks your harvesting your oldest plants, moving your vegging plants over to the harvested flower area, take your rooted clones and put them in the veg area, take some clones for the next run to veg.
to get the best bang for the buck you want to figure how many pots you can fit in 1 of the 3 flower areas say its a 4x4 tent and remember the pots going in the flower tent are the final transplanted size the bigger they are the less you can fit. so once you figure how many you can fit you know at least how many you need to start off with. and say 25-50% more just in case.
StinkBud
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Over all these years you'll notice I've never said a bad word about coco, DWC or other grow methods. All that matters to me is that people get the meds they need. It's all cool with me! Right now I'm more into breeding than growing so I stick with the easiest method. Soil is pretty much brainless (if you know what you're doing).
I really should write an article on coco. Coco is awesome! You don't have the root problems you get with Aero. The coco holds just enough water to keep the plants moist without drowning the roots. As the water evaporates it creates a cooling effect, just like a swamp cooler. The roots run 10-20 degrees cooler than the ambient temps. You can run organic nutes and bennies too. The best coco mixes have a lot of pearlite in them. Make sure you get the stuff that's already PH balanced or you will have to rinse it yourself with PH water until the drain water is 5.8.
What do I use for my coco setup? 5-7 gal pots with a simple drip ring on each plant. Pots set on a 4x4 flood table draining into a 5 gal bucket. Watering time varies depending on size of plants/pots and number of drippers. Even the size of the drippers plays a factor. Basically you want the water/nute mix to run until it starts to come out the bottom. Even though it's technically a "drain-to-waste" system you really don't want any waste. I'd usually end up with 1-2 gal every couple of weeks. I used the left over waste nutes on my house plants, lawn and garden. You typically need the pump to come on 4-6 times a day depending on the growth stage of the plants. The plants will start slow, then use the most water/nutes when they are in the peak of veg, then slow down as they get close to finishing. You don't need to flush much if you run an organic based mix.
Nutes? Any brand name nutrient mix will work. Just read the instructions. I'd typically mix up around 20 gallons at a time and it would last for around a week. I've been trying a bunch of different nutes lately and the truth is they all work really well. So go ahead and give coco a try!
completenoobie
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hhhhhhhhhhhhhhuhhhh (huge breath inhaled). hold it, hold it, only 11,713 more to go. ssssspppp.. ssssspppp, hhhhuhh hhuuuhhh, cough cough cough. hang on a minute, I'll catch up in a couple days I would bump it but it hasn't been long enough. got a million questions that have undoubtedly been answered ten million times, give me a second. I'm working on it
even though technically this counts as a comment.........
batrgrower
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Do you have a question?
completenoobie
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they are being answered as I read through for the most part, some probably can't be answered and are most likely tailored to each specific setup. I am sure I will have many questions along this journey and I am sure they will be answered, this is the longest thread I have ever gotten myself into and I can't ask the same questions that have been asked and answered a million times before I make an attempt to find the answers myself and read through entire threads. Even if they are 600 pages and 12,000 messages long. And even though I am going to see it all here, I also plan on buying stinkbud's book just to support him in his efforts, he deserves kudos and a standing ovation for all this. It will be a very long time before I catch up. What kludge said about is true, albeit an insurmountable task currently, but should be the forum mantra posted at the top of each thread and each message.
batrgrower
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Yeah I know what you mean. This is a VERY long thread.
I managed to go through and read every post and put the system into action. I made some changes to better fit and optimize my grow space. But, I can tell you it works well and I have good results.
You should also search for some superstoner1 threads. He also used the rail system like stinkbud.
He also has a nutrient schedule somewhere in his threads that I've been having a lot of success with.
If there's anything specific you're not able to find through the threads, let me know and I'll see if I can help.
completenoobie
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I am already doing aero, have been for a few years now. Wish I had found this thread when I first started. I started making cloners out of 5 gal buckets for tomato plants at first and then started using it for mj clones and just use buckets for the whole life cycle, but I am liking the looks of this better. I started and stayed with buckets because of the problems with leaking and I have a watertight bucket system and I have dozens of these buckets each with it's very own pump.
I can simplify and get a better perpetual cycle than the one I have now and avoid the problems with any leakage.
I won't be changing over real soon, I want to get along in the thread to see how things have progressed and see what changes and adaptions people have made and suggested, etc.
Thanks for the offer, I will try to remember that, I need to start a notepad for questions and mark them off as I come to the answers.
I can simplify and get a better perpetual cycle than the one I have now and avoid the problems with any leakage.
I won't be changing over real soon, I want to get along in the thread to see how things have progressed and see what changes and adaptions people have made and suggested, etc.
Thanks for the offer, I will try to remember that, I need to start a notepad for questions and mark them off as I come to the answers.
completenoobie
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I am having pure hell making it through this thread. I just keep seeing the same stupid shit over and over, people asking questions that were sometimes answered on the same page and sometimes even multiple times.
My hardest thing is I actually know the answers and virtually every single person I have encountered in this thread so far hasn't even been around in years. I keep screaming at the screen trying to hold back answering knowing that eventually the answers they seek will finally come to light (those that haven't been answered a million times I mean).
well FUCK YES it will affect the way the plant grows, that is the whole damn point of adding it. If it didn't affect the plant then why the hell would you add it? Only two reasons to add anything, to affect the plant, or to affect an undesirable, like root rot or mites.
anything else is wasted time, effort, money, etc etc etc.
I just had to relieve some pressure and frustration. So far I have way more answers than questions. I'll try to keep my mouth shut for the next few hundred pages and 7000 plus messages. Hey, I'm down about 4000 messages so far!!! 230 pages and not even 40 percent yet, jeez I'm spending too much time on this and I'm even skimming the stupid shit and repeatsrepeatsrepeats that keep monotonously reiteratively reappearing time and again.
I do wish this thread was still alive and kicking vigorously, although I would never catch up if it was.
completenoobie
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using five times the resources and one tenth the brains
StinkBud
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I've designed and built large setups for more plants. It's better to use the full length of the fence posts to make 10ft sections.
StinkBud
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Ask away bro! Don't be shy! When have I ever got pissed for answering the same question a thousand times. I am a busy guy so sometimes I'll disappear for awhile but I always come back.
I've been moving the last few weeks so it's been crazy but now things are getting back to normal. I'll post some photos of my new office...
completenoobie
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you still hooked on blueberry?? I am still way back there. Nice office, wish I was there, and I'm guessing rules changed? That's a BIG office, love it. I need to move. I certainly wish I had your problems.
StinkBud
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We're not running Blueberry right now but it will always be in the top 10 for me. My favorite strain right now is my new Veteran's Kush (GSC Thin Mint x Trainwreck). It should be on the shelves (Oregon) this fall. We have the Vet's Kush, Orange Cookies, Pineapple Cookies, Dreamy Cookies, Grape Cookies all in veg, ready for the new greenhouse. All of these strains need to test out over 20% THC before they can hit the market but the genetics are there so I'm not too worried.
We will be releasing a new seed lineup spring 2018 so if you live in Oregon, you're stoked! I'll post all the details as they come out.
If anyone is in the Seattle area be sure to attend Seattle Hempfest Aug 18-19-20! I'll be speaking there all 3 days and in the Hemposium a couple of times too.
https://www.hempfest.org/ People always love my speeches as I tend to hand out a few more "gifts" than the average speaker... lol
StinkBud
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I have a LOT of work to do on these videos but it will give you a rough idea of how we grow. I'll be updating and improving these videos over time. Right now I'm just trying to get all the strain pages updated on the website.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAP5co1aVji-7HdwKCgOpBQ
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAP5co1aVji-7HdwKCgOpBQ