JimmyTheNewb
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Thanks yea she seems to be loving the enviroment which in my opinion is the most important thing
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Johnny Lawrence
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Those aren't 300 watt lights.
JimmyTheNewb
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Yes they are and sry i just realized i posted an older pic before i put my 2nd light up. Its 2 galaxyhydro 300w led.
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Johnny Lawrence
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I know what they are. They aren't 300 watts.
JimmyTheNewb
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If youre referring to the fact that they're led and its a 300w "equivalent " but only draws half that from the wall then i guess technically youre correct. Im guessing youre a die hard hps or mh fan. My power went down 20$ a month after using these lol while still getting 600 equivalent watts.
Johnny Lawrence
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You are not getting 600 equivalent watts. You're getting 260.
Watt for watt, older, chinese blurple lights are equivalent to HID in terms of efficiency. Your lights are roughly equivalent to a 250 watt HID. The "300 watt equivalent" thing is a claim the manufacturers use to sell lights. It's bullshit.
A 600 watt(actual watts) blurple light is about equal to a 600 HID.
And no, I'm not a diehard HID guy. I still have one 600 in use, but it's about to be replaced by a 515 watt Frankenstein light I'm going to build that should spank it in terms of output/performance. I own a bunch of LEDs.
JimmyTheNewb
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If thats the case then why even speak of watts having anything at all to do with growing plants. Im not saying youre wrong hell youre probably right like i said im new to this. That plant in the pic was grown off just one of these lights i just added the 2nd one 2 days ago. According to what youre saying that means i grew that plant off of 130 watts lol. Thats nothing. My brother is using a 400w hps/mh using everything else exactly to the tee the same except his is 3 weeks older then mine. Mine is bigger and healthier by far even being that much younger. If all this is true and i really only have 260 watts of light after adding a second one then everyone should switch to these cheap ass blurple led lol. Cooler temps means less AC and way less power at the wall being used.
numberfour
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My next round moved into the 4x8, mix of new strains, old strains, clones and seeds.
Had a separate tent for the seed and clones, both tents had 52w of LED 6500k. Seed tent before the move.
Put the 600's away and moved on to these, 2x 250w XL Quantum Boards, 3000k. Will buy a couple more when they restock and have 4x 250w XL's over the 4x8.
Had a separate tent for the seed and clones, both tents had 52w of LED 6500k. Seed tent before the move.
Put the 600's away and moved on to these, 2x 250w XL Quantum Boards, 3000k. Will buy a couple more when they restock and have 4x 250w XL's over the 4x8.
JimmyTheNewb
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Let me ask you this since you know a lot more about it then i do. I keep hearing that i can expect about .5 grams per watt in yield. Realistically how much bud are my lights capable of producing. I know many other things factor in but lets just say you had these 2 lights running how much could you produce off them?
Johnny Lawrence
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I'm just saying you have 260 watts of LED. That's it. It's equivalent to 260 watts of HID. yeah, of course 260 watts of light is going to keep a space cool - it's only 260 watts.
Even with the best current LED tech(cobs or printed circuit boards), it still works out to about 450 watts needed to replace a 600. I think that number is getting lower for PCBs though - I think it's getting closer to 400. I replaced 2 600s with 900 watts of cobs, and I'm still nailing the exact same weight numbers.
theslipperbandit
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As much as I hated that guy in the karate kid hes right lol
Johnny Lawrence
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Not sure. And it's strain dependent.
A few years ago, I did a single Blueberry Kush under a Platinum P150(90 watt blurple) and got just under 2 ounces off it, which is right around the number you're hoping for. Keep in mind, Blueberry Kush is my smallest producing strain.
In my big tent(900 watts of Citizen/Cree cobs) I'm getting 2 and a half pounds every time, which is roughly 1.2 per.
If you have a budget to get a new light(s), let me know what that budget is and I'll point you to the most bang for your buck.
BTW - Somebody above posted a pic of their Quantums(printed circuit boards). The grows being done under these have been outstanding.
JimmyTheNewb
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Idk i guess i just dont get it lol. Basically what im getting outta all this is i couldve just used a 125 watts of mh/hps and vegged this same plant right?
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Johnny Lawrence
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Yeah, but HIDs under 400 watts really start losing efficiency. Aside from 315 ceramics, SE 600s and DE lights are the most efficient HID lights available.
If you don't have money for new lights you'll do just fine under what you have. Just keep your expectations realistic. And do all your math based on actual wattage.
JimmyTheNewb
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Okay thanks johnny youve helped me a lot today i thought i had more then what i got. I want 4 oz per grow in a 3x3 closet. I got clones rooting id like to run a sog. What would you get for lighting and how many clones should i run under that?
Johnny Lawrence
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Again, I need to know what kind of budget you're working with.
Are you handy enough to build an aluminum frame? If so you could get a plug and play kit from Timber. Or for a few bucks more, you can get one assembled with a frame. And Timbers new frames just got a makeover - they look really nice now.
http://timbergrowlights.com/
Check out the Citizen frames. They're the most affordable.
And they always sell out right away, but if you can get your hands on this little beast, you'll be set.
https://horticulturelightinggroup.com/collections/diy/products/260w-qb-led-kit
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