What is the Democratic party doing about the Electoral College system?

ttystikk

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It's outdated, unnecessary and anyone who gets in without the most votes is always going to be thought of as illegitimate or tainted.

The only real problem is the recount of a close election using all the popular vote instead of just one state.
I used to think as you do, but then I considered how rural Americans are treated by our government; by and large, their concerns are ignored. In my view, making their votes even weaker is a step in the wrong direction.
 

ArcticGranite

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I wonder what the DNC is gonna do about superdelegates!

Howard Dean:
“Superdelegates don’t ‘represent the people’ … I’ll do what I think is right for the country.”
 

ttystikk

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I wonder what the DNC is gonna do about superdelegates!

Howard Dean:
“Superdelegates don’t ‘represent the people’ … I’ll do what I think is right for the country.”
Agreed. Superdelegates are the party's way of maintaining control over the outcome of its internal elections. That isn't democracy, it's ballot stuffing.
 

SneekyNinja

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Agreed. Superdelegates are the party's way of maintaining control over the outcome of its internal elections. That isn't democracy, it's ballot stuffing.
Hillary literally smashed your candidate in the primary amongst voters...

The superdelegates were just a sexy bonus to complete Saint Bernard's crucifixion.
 

UncleBuck

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ttystikk

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Fogdog

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Some blame Clinton's loss on the Electoral College

Is the Democratic party doing anything about it before the next election?
You do know that the next election is a mid-term one?

Oh, and you can thank the Democratic party for stopping Republican efforts at dismantling Medicare, Medicaid and that ACA.

Now that that's settled,

I'm wondering if you can clarify for me, what is the difference between men's rights and women's rights?
 

Padawanbater2

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You do know that the next election is a mid-term one?

Oh, and you can thank the Democratic party for stopping Republican efforts at dismantling Medicare, Medicaid and that ACA.

Now that that's settled,

I'm wondering if you can clarify for me, what is the difference between men's rights and women's rights?
If you want to talk about anything other than the subject of the thread, PM me. If you remain respectful, maybe we can talk. If not, don't waste your time.
 

Fogdog

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If you want to talk about anything other than the subject of the thread, PM me. If you remain respectful, maybe we can talk. If not, don't waste your time.
The thread is done. The next election doesn't involve the electoral college. What kind of straw man argument was that?

So, what is the difference between men's rights and women's rights?
 

Fogdog

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I watched yours, now watch mine;
One minute or less of Jon Stewart's spot on and accurate criticism of Clinton -- a speech he made a year and a half ago that included his spot on take of Trump, "the man baby", lol. Anyway, one minute of insightful criticism of Clinton, followed by ten minutes of thought guides. First, I agree with Jon Stewart about his criticism of Clinton. I also agreed with Jon Stewart when he said in that speech he'd vote for anybody to avoid president Trump. I'll point out that mealy-mouth thought guide guy said nothing more in 10 minutes than what Stewart said in less than one. That you found it worth sharing make me embarrassed for you. That video was weak.

I'm pretty certain that Stewart is now not saying that the election of Trump was the best thing to have happened to the progressive movement, like you have said.
 

Fogdog

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I used to think as you do, but then I considered how rural Americans are treated by our government; by and large, their concerns are ignored. In my view, making their votes even weaker is a step in the wrong direction.
I too thought what you just said yet have changed my mind after reviewing the evidence as any skeptic would. The argument coming especially from the right and that you just repeated means that South Dakota, for example, would see and get no attention from the candidates and campaigns if it weren't for the electoral college.

If you look at state by state spending


You'd see that spending was mostly concentrated on key swing states. South Dakota got virtually no attention. Absolutely no attention from Republicans. Same goes with all those rural states that the right and you are so concerned about.

The right wing's and your argument is bogus. Small states still didn't get attention through a super sized voting power given to them through the EC. Instead some middle size states did. Is that a great benefit and worth disenfranchising the majority of voters in this country? Populations are collecting where the economy is strongest and growing. Rather than artificially skewing campaign attention to PA, let the campaigns focus on where the people and the backbone of the economy lives.
 
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tangerinegreen555

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Perhaps the Unity Commission of the DNC will work out a balance, will of the people vs superdelegate power/control.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/288989-democrats-vote-to-reform-super-delegate-system
As though a die hard conservative republican would or should care about anything the DNC does.

You just like the internal turmoil.

How are you liking the utter chaos of the dysfunctional Trump administration?

Do you suck your own cock like Scaramucci says Bannon does? Classy crew they got there.
 
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