So I have a 4x4x6.5 grow tent, 900w led grow light and plenty of fans. I have 5 amnesia haze seeds and was wanting to see how long I should veg the plant from seed before i swap it over to bloom. I have done one other scrog but that was with a mostly indica strain so it grew slower and I have heard that amnesia haze gets pretty damn big due to it being mostly sativa. So this will be by very first mostly sativa plant. Any tips or advice y'all could give me would be very much welcome.
Amnesia haze
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neckpod
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I haven't done amnesia but my last grow was purple haze in a tent 2m tall and it almost kicked my ass. I would look at how much room you have as these are likely to almost triple in height when you flip.
Your running led so you will be able to get pretty close to it, I was on 2 x 600w hps and almost ran out of room.
I would top and flip 12/12 at between 12 and 18inch tall prob more 18inch with led.
So do you think it would be best to use my scrog net while growing that. I built my very first scrog net about 3 months ago and am using it for my current grow. Does this look ok for my very first scrog so far. Just wondering.
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neckpod
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Looks good to me friend but I'm no master at it so prob not the best guy to listen to 9n the matter. Plenty of bud sites the and as far as I'm aware the idea is to ha a full canopy so you almost nailed it. My purple was scrog and I didn't like it due to problems in my system and not being able To get at the back 3 pots was a nightmare with the net in. I run rdwc and got a blockage.
Won't be using the net again with a multi zone system.
OrganicGorilla
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That scrog looks great buddy
Thanks
I did have a full canopy but ran into a temperature crisis when the building I was growing in hit 103 degrees because the AC went out so I had to take them all out of the scrog net and move them into my house and bought a tent for it. And I was thinking about growing my plants in a dwc for my amnesia haze but I have never done hydroponics before. Is it difficult?
neckpod
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Its not difficult really but you do need a to keep your nutes cool or root rot becomes an issue in dwc, Im only on my second RDWC/hydro at the min after growing in soil/coco for about 14 years. its not hard to do but does require a lot more equipment to do it correctly.
my friend does flood and drain which is much cheaper to setup and he grows some real nice plants this way, its also much simpler.
WOW 103 degrees ouch! We don't really get temps issues that high here in the UK so kinda lucky in that respect, No running AC and 2 x 600w hps in a tent!
Outside temps today are only 18c so about 65f.
What all would I need for a 5 plant flood and drain setup?
SchweeDubz
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I have been vegging 3x Amnesia Haze for 8 weeks now and they are only about 2ft. Granted I topped multiple times but they are very bushy.
neckpod
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I topped the purple haze as well only once
the problem in my system in a tent that's only 2m tall is height! i ran out of room real quick, So sounds to me like you have plenty of head room?
Them things being a strong sativa will likely double possibly triple in height so i'm guessing 5 to 6 f tall! Big Girls ha wish i could grow em that big.
or do you think with all the topping they will stay shorter than that?
I had to keep em short this time so 4 week veg.
1 x bubblegummer
1 x blueberry cheesecake
4 x cookies kush
The cookies kush is very sensitive to high nutrient levels and will burn. wouldn't like to go past 800ppm in dwc. (my limit is usually 1000ppm)
SchweeDubz
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I got 1x Berry Bomb, 1x Pakistan Valley, 3x Amnesia Haze. All have been topped multiple times, hard to tell which is which.
They are in the process of entering flowering right now (increasing darkness an hour each night). I can tell they are stretching more each day so hopefully it's not too much more because my tent is 78".
They are in the process of entering flowering right now (increasing darkness an hour each night). I can tell they are stretching more each day so hopefully it's not too much more because my tent is 78".
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neckpod
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I just bought my system as didn't have the time to build one, Their will be plenty of users on here in the hydro section that will probably better inform you of the parts needed to diy one. i wish i would have done a diy system now.
have a look on youtube for flood and drain.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/112218274353?chn=ps&dispItem=1&adgroupid=45977084600&rlsatarget=pla-326870722703&abcId=1128946&adtype=pla&merchantid=113625212&poi=&googleloc=9046662&device=c&campaignid=857251617&crdt=0
you could build better but gives you an idea of the equipment needed.
have a look on youtube for flood and drain.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/like/112218274353?chn=ps&dispItem=1&adgroupid=45977084600&rlsatarget=pla-326870722703&abcId=1128946&adtype=pla&merchantid=113625212&poi=&googleloc=9046662&device=c&campaignid=857251617&crdt=0
you could build better but gives you an idea of the equipment needed.
What size grow containers are they in and how often should i top my amnesia haze plants once I get them going.
SchweeDubz
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I've got mine in 7g smart pots. I am not enough of an expert to say exactly how often you should top but the more the better I guess...though it can temporarily slow down growth and make the veg time take longer. My goal was to get lots of tops in general and try and keep my plants roughly the same height during veg. If you see any stalks that are growing taller than the rest, give em a top.
Ok and what is your opinion on defoliation (when to do it and how much to take off the plant) I know I'm asking a million question but I'm wanting to try and learn how to grow the best that I can possibly grow with my current equipment lol
SchweeDubz
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Again not a pro here but I've been told to remove the bottom 1/3 of the plant. I guess I wouldnt do this at least until, idk, your plant is a foot tall. I waited bout 6 weeks to do it when they are around 18 inches and there were plenty of tops.
One more question hahaha would it be more advisable to scrog while using my LEDs in a grow tent or would I get a better yield just topping, letting it grow upwards, and later on just strapping the branches to some bamboo supports. Because I have seen some people get pretty big yields from amnesia haze without scrogging but they weren't using LEDs like I am.
SchweeDubz
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Never scrogged myself but my thoughts were that you can fill up the space faster using multiple plants. Scrogging requires a longer veg time. I'm sure other people here have tried both and have a better input. I personally don't think the type of light used should change anything in terms of scrogging or not.
Kevin Pruett
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What is the best area (size) of squares to have in your scrog for the highest yield? as i've seen larger squares and very small squares in lots of different posts on scrogging, if anybody could help that would be great as i'm thinking of trying it on my next grow.