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GreatwhiteNorth

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A buddy of mine fly's a beaver & ferries people all over the place. Once after dropping off clients he happened to fly over their camp after taking off & sees these two guys running around like idiots so he promptly lands to see what's wrong.

Apparently these guys thought bear spray was used like bug dope & sprayed themselves good. :wall:
 

Singlemalt

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A buddy of mine fly's a beaver & ferries people all over the place. Once after dropping off clients he happened to fly over their camp after taking off & sees these two guys running around like idiots so he promptly lands to see what's wrong.

Apparently these guys thought bear spray was used like bug dope & sprayed themselves good. :wall:
I'd have paid to see that
 

cannabineer

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No doubt when you are required to remove your mask & recite your name, social & birth-date.
That shit hurts bad & makes you leak profusely from every facial orifice.
I once took a faceful of a very similar compound in lab. It was almost odorless, and it built sort of slow. I got sent to the hospital above my protests that "it'll be over in ten". Closest my face came to collapsing into itself
 

cannabineer

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Serious Q.
You refer to the S&W .500 as a .49 bore yet the projectiles measure out @ .500"
Am I missing something?
Bore diameter is diameter across the lands of a rifled bore. Bullet diameter is groove diameter plus one or two thousandths.

Bore diameter on a .50BMG is .500 but the jacketed bullets for it run .510 in diameter. The .500 Linebaugh, also a 50-bore, runs .510 for jacketed and my cast .511 or.512. The diff is 2x rifling depth plus an allowance (usually less than a thousandth for jacketed bullets and .001 to .002 for hard cast) for what ballisticians call obturation: sealing the bore with a moving piston.

Those gas check bullets you showed have that copper cup as an aid to obturation under the riflelike pressures the big handguns generate. Lovely things.

A. .500 bullet will only seal .500 across the grooves, which means start with a bore of .490.

Same way a .300 bore is .308 across the grooves with standard rifling cut .004 deep. And the .44 Magnum (.429 across the grooves) is really a .42-bore.

If I have made a mistake presenting this, i ask someone to set me straight please
 
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GreatwhiteNorth

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Bore diameter is diameter across the lands of a rifled bore. Bullet diameter is groove diameter plus one or two thousandths.

Bore diameter on a .50BMG is .500 but the jacketed bullets for it run .510 in diameter. The .500 Linebaugh, also a 50-bore, runs .510 for jacketed and my cast .511 or.512. The diff is 2x rifling depth plus an allowance (usually less than a thousandth for jacketed bullets and .001 to .002 for hard cast) for what ballisticians call obturation: sealing the bore with a moving piston.

A. .500 bullet will only seal .500 across the grooves, which means start with a bore of .490.

Same way a .300 bore is .308 across the grooves with standard rifling cut .004 deep. And the .44 Magnum (.429 across the grooves) is really a .42-bore.

If I have made a mistake presenting this, i ask someone to set me straight please
Explained perfectly - I get it now.
But I'm still not trading the S&W 4" double action for anything else as I plan on only using it as required laying flat on my back. :cool:
 

cannabineer

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Explained perfectly - I get it now.
But I'm still not trading the S&W 4" double action for anything else as I plan on only using it as required laying flat on my back. :cool:
I almost bought myself one of their .500ws when they came out. Had they had a "no muzzle brake" option, I'd probably have done it.

My Linebaugh was built in the 90s by David Clements, an extremely talented and humble gunsmith out of Mississippi. It looks almost like this exemplar. I have sent 480s out the "complaint department" up front. Whack!!



If I ever am lucky enough to ride North, I'd like to find a way to send the gun to AK and have it along for the duration. I once had the ambition to ride on my Hog to Tuktoyaktuk, northernmost road in my atlas.
 

GreatwhiteNorth

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I almost bought myself one of their .500ws when they came out. Had they had a "no muzzle brake" option, I'd probably have done it.

My Linebaugh was built in the 90s by David Clements, an extremely talented and humble gunsmith out of Mississippi. It looks almost like this exemplar. I have sent 480s out the "complaint department" up front. Whack!!



If I ever am lucky enough to ride North, I'd like to find a way to send the gun to AK and have it along for the duration. I once had the ambition to ride on my Hog to Tuktoyaktuk, northernmost road in my atlas.
I absolutely love the single actions - bought 2 Ruger Beasley's in .45 colt years ago to convert to Linebaugh, never got around to it as they both shoot like "a house afire" not to mention S&W introduced the .500 a few years later.
Stainless, .500, double action - it's a no brainier for emergency gopher protection.
 

cannabineer

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I absolutely love the single actions - bought 2 Ruger Beasley's in .45 colt years ago to convert to Linebaugh, never got around to it as they both shoot like "a house afire" not to mention S&W introduced the .500 a few years later.
Stainless, .500, double action - it's a no brainier for emergency gopher protection.
I sold my second Bisley, which was gonna become a specialty six-holer for the .45ACP cartridge. I believed that having a suitably small powder capacity would make for an excellent target gun. Never got to test the premise, and I sold that gun unfired.

The .500 started as a .357 Bisley and I did shoot that as originally supplied. I prefer my other .357s, Colts, S&Ws and a coupla Freedom Armses. Those last two are sweeeet.





the 353 is a five-holer with massive cylinder walls. By grinding up uranium and matchheads and mixing them with political cartoons, I sent 180s out that muzzle at 1900 feet per second. Now THAT is a bear load in a subcaliber.

Addendum. I wanted a cylinder for the 353 in .454 Casull necked down to .357 ... was gonna call it the Double Magnum or Sheepshifter (a silhouette reference). Nobody would make me one because that Freedom steel eats up tooling.
 

GreatwhiteNorth

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I sold my second Bisley, which was gonna become a specialty six-holer for the .45ACP cartridge. I believed that having a suitably small powder capacity would make for an excellent target gun. Never got to test the premise, and I sold that gun unfired.

The .500 started as a .357 Bisley and I did shoot that as originally supplied. I prefer my other .357s, Colts, S&Ws and a coupla Freedom Armses. Those last two are sweeeet.





the 353 is a five-holer with massive cylinder walls. By grinding up uranium and matchheads and mixing them with political cartoons, I sent 180s out that muzzle at 1900 feet per second. Now THAT is a bear load in a subcaliber.

Addendum. I wanted a cylinder for the 353 in .454 Casull necked down to .357 ... was gonna call it the Double Magnum or Sheepshifter (a silhouette reference). Nobody would make me one because that Freedom steel eats up tooling.
Very cool looking critters - the first to me is the best looking - clean, nice wood & overall the best.
Just my VHO
 

cannabineer

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Very cool looking critters - the first to me is the best looking - clean, nice wood & overall the best.
Just my VHO
Oh yes, the little six-holer is a universal sort of gun. It carries well, and in my hands it point shoots in the pitch dark. I am mighty fond of it, esp. with old-school .357 loadings that reach the full 46000 cup, not the detuned modern 35000 cup of pressure you need to keep a Charter Arms or a little Model Sixty together for more than a hundred shots.

The .500 I have fits the same holster as the little Freedom Arms. It is, like your big S&W, a practical hip gun for big critter country.
 

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wascaptain

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i have a 10 gauge crack barrel single shot gun that i sometimes use for primitive rifle days. buck shot and slugs give a heck of a recoil, rattles teeth and leaves a mark
 

curious2garden

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Bore diameter is diameter across the lands of a rifled bore. Bullet diameter is groove diameter plus one or two thousandths.

Bore diameter on a .50BMG is .500 but the jacketed bullets for it run .510 in diameter. The .500 Linebaugh, also a 50-bore, runs .510 for jacketed and my cast .511 or.512. The diff is 2x rifling depth plus an allowance (usually less than a thousandth for jacketed bullets and .001 to .002 for hard cast) for what ballisticians call obturation: sealing the bore with a moving piston.

Those gas check bullets you showed have that copper cup as an aid to obturation under the riflelike pressures the big handguns generate. Lovely things.

A. .500 bullet will only seal .500 across the grooves, which means start with a bore of .490.

Same way a .300 bore is .308 across the grooves with standard rifling cut .004 deep. And the .44 Magnum (.429 across the grooves) is really a .42-bore.

If I have made a mistake presenting this, i ask someone to set me straight please
OK I have to answer this. In my junior year I did a path. study on ballistics to the human skull. This is an angels on the head of a pin argument LOL
 
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cannetix Inc

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Recently acquired my PAL (Canadian firearms license, for those who don't know) - I've got my eye on a Kriss Vector Gen-II a local shop just got in, solid white finish, chambered in 10mm. Would be a fun toy.

Unfortunately, length restrictions in Canada mean without a restricted class license only the CRB version is available.

 
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