Go go n chill
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On my 600 I left both on. I never staged the lights.
First grow..vipaspectra 450w led
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hey...iv used both switches on mine the whole way through...
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TacoMac
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A shame, really, with plants that good looking. Those buds would be double the length down the stalk and thicker with a better light.
i know..even though its my first grow i do feel a better light would have helped..im investing in a high quality COB unit after this grow..i can do better
Go go n chill
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Nice! ill try to post a short video of mine , day 31 of flower53days since 12/12 flip...450w vipaspectra and 3x30w CFLs added at day 31..all good up to now
TacoMac
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And that's where you see that those cheap LED's just simply don't have it. With a 600 watt HPS that doesn't cost much more than that, your buds would be that thick half way down the stalks at least rather than just at the top few inches.53days since 12/12 flip...450w vipaspectra and 3x30w CFLs added at day 31..all good up to now
You get what you pay for.
Go go n chill
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Somebody always has to make a point
TacoMac
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If you're afraid of simple facts, don't read them. Fact is, for about 80 dollars more he would have quite literally doubled his yield or come very close to it. That would have been worth about 5 times that amount over the long haul.
People have been suckered in to those cheap LED's for a couple of years now thinking they're just as good when they aren't. They're not even close.
If making that point saves one person from making that same mistake, then it's all worth while.
Go go n chill
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I'm not arguing about the facts, it's not just a simple 80 bucks right now the man has a 450 W LED light what he's doing with it is working his buds look good. I'm sure he's intelligent and can read and he probably knows that if you use the better like he would get better buds
TacoMac
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You obviously are impaired.
He spent FAR more than that on his nutrients alone. It kills me how people spend hundreds upon hundreds on tents, medium, nutrients, testing instruments, all kinds of bullshit...then they get cheap on the most important part of it all, the light.
It's like building a race car: He went out and bought a bullet proof bottom end, best cam, lifters, rods, all of it. Top of the line heads, exhaust and then at the very end he gets cheap and puts an old, outdated, piece of shit carburetor on it.
He would have been better served to wait the 4 weeks to save up the money for the decent light. After all, it would have doubled his yield and in so doing paid for itself 5 times over.
It makes absolutely ZERO sense at all to do that.
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Funny
Go go n chill
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I've been looking into upgrading also. I only have a given number of watts That I am comfortable using and I'm looking to change LED lights to get more bud out of the same electricity with no heat issuesi know..even though its my first grow i do feel a better light would have helped..im investing in a high quality COB unit after this grow..i can do better
Ares2389
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This is a great thread! Keep it up. I have the Viparspectra Par 600 myself. First grow still in veg. Also plan to upgrade to cobs and use the Vipar for vegging. Good luck!
1.) I didn't feel like dealing with the heat from HPS in my tiny 2x2.5x5 foot grow space in a closet that the tent barely squeezes into. I can also honestly say I am surprised at how much heat the LED gives off. From all the things I had read, in my mind, I never really thought I would deal with heat issues, period. Boy was I wrong!
2.) I had very little knowledge of what COBs were and what I did know at the time they looked very daunting to try and take on. To a beginner with zero experience, trying to read books, threads and then piece it all together with no in-person help can feel very overwhelming.
3.) I figured the put together LED panel was good enough for me to dip my toes into the scene and if I really love this, then the sky is the limit.
As a side note, I read this and that's what made me want chime into this thread. I purchased my light for 3 reasons:
1.) I didn't feel like dealing with the heat from HPS in my tiny 2x2.5x5 foot grow space in a closet that the tent barely squeezes into. I can also honestly say I am surprised at how much heat the LED gives off. From all the things I had read, in my mind, I never really thought I would deal with heat issues, period. Boy was I wrong!
2.) I had very little knowledge of what COBs were and what I did know at the time they looked very daunting to try and take on. To a beginner with zero experience, trying to read books, threads and then piece it all together with no in-person help can feel very overwhelming.
3.) I figured the put together LED panel was good enough for me to dip my toes into the scene and if I really love this, then the sky is the limit.
TacoMac
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The reason you're not "dealing with heat" is because you have a weak-assed light.
The Viaspectra 600 is, in fact, only a 275 watt light. That's it. That's why your plants will never, ever, even approach the yields that other people get. Ever.
It's not LED's that are saving you heat. It's using NO POWER. No matter what type of light you use, power is heat. When you're only running 275 watts, you are of course going to produce a lot less heat than I do running 600 true watts.
But then again, my light is over twice as powerful, does easily double your yield and covers a larger area.
It's not a matter of "your light uses less heat because it's an LED".
It's a matter of "Your light uses less power because it is a very weak, very low powered light."
The Viaspectra 600 is, in fact, only a 275 watt light. That's it. That's why your plants will never, ever, even approach the yields that other people get. Ever.
It's not LED's that are saving you heat. It's using NO POWER. No matter what type of light you use, power is heat. When you're only running 275 watts, you are of course going to produce a lot less heat than I do running 600 true watts.
But then again, my light is over twice as powerful, does easily double your yield and covers a larger area.
It's not a matter of "your light uses less heat because it's an LED".
It's a matter of "Your light uses less power because it is a very weak, very low powered light."
Ares2389
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I wasn't taking a dig at HPS by any means. I am sure I will have my own someday for fun to learn more about this art.
I also mentioned I thought heat wouldn't be an issue with my light. I was wrong. My tent gets into the 80's (as high as 88 sometimes) but obviously there's other grow specific variables for my tent. I get the lights use less energy than stated. Heck mine only uses 180 watts with the blue and white spectrum in veg. (About 80 only blue and 100 white) I hooked a kWh meter up to my stuff just out of curiosity.
I may be wrong but my understanding of at least the panel I have is it's supposed to have the same PAR as a 600 HPS? I don't have my own meter to confirm. I also didn't buy this light with the illusion that I was going to grow donkey dick colas. Just enough for my personal medication and an amazing hobby to learn.
I got what I thought would work for me in my particular setup based on what I was comfortable with.
Buyfrommycity
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Lol