The DNC Reports Lowest Fundraising Since 2003

Fogdog

Fogdog

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SneekyNinja said:
From what I've read they're just a super PAC that will only support "progressive candidates"...hardly ground-breaking shit right there.
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True, that.

They don't go around insisting everybody swear off legal donations from corporations and large donors. They say if you want their endorsement, you must sign the pledge not to. They talk about primarying conservative Democrats, which amounts the kind of thing a PAC does. I'm good with that.

I don't believe that hamstringing a campaign by limiting funding, when the opponent is not so limited, is a winning strategy. I'd be happy to be proven wrong.
 
SneekyNinja

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Fogdog said:
True, that.

They don't go around insisting everybody swear off legal donations from corporations and large donors. They say if you want their endorsement, you must sign the pledge not to. They talk about primarying conservative Democrats, which amounts the kind of thing a PAC does. I'm good with that.

I don't believe that hamstringing a campaign by limiting funding, when the opponent is not so limited, is a winning strategy. I'd be happy to be proven wrong.
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That's what the rest of the "establishment" Democrats believe too. They're all on record against Citizens United but realize you need power first to change the rules.
 
Fogdog

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Padawanbater2 said:
So you don't know what Sanders campaign lacked or what his future campaign can do to attract black or latino communities?
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I can point at the result. Sanders had woeful support from African American and Hispanic communities. Nobody can win the Democratic Party nomination without that support. I'm just stating the obvious. Or it should be to anybody who runs a campaign. Bernie has to attract more support from those groups. I'm no politician and have no idea how he does that. But I can point to why he lost to Clinton and say "that wheel is broken, you aren't going anywhere until you fix it".

Starting from where he is right now, he's got a lot of work to do and from what he's said recently, he's not up to the task. At a during an interview about the Unity Tour with Perez, all he did was tear at the Democratic Party. It was demonstration of how hopeless he is at bringing people together.
 
SneekyNinja

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Padawanbater2 said:
Look up the difference between "superPAC" and "PAC"
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Is that why they stated in their FEC declaration the following "...this committee intends to establish a separate bank account to deposit and withdraw funds raised in unlimited amounts from individuals, corporations..." ??
 
Padawanbater2

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SneekyNinja said:
Is that why they stated in their FEC declaration the following "...this committee intends to establish a separate bank account to deposit and withdraw funds raised in unlimited amounts from individuals, corporations..." ??
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Who's 'FEC declaration'?

Do you have any more info on this I can verify?
 
Padawanbater2

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Fogdog said:
I can point at the result. Sanders had woeful support from African American and Hispanic communities. Nobody can win the Democratic Party nomination without that support. I'm just stating the obvious. Or it should be to anybody who runs a campaign. Bernie has to attract more support from those groups. I'm no politician and have no idea how he does that. But I can point to why he lost to Clinton and say "that wheel is broken, you aren't going anywhere until you fix it".

Starting from where he is right now, he's got a lot of work to do and from what he's said recently, he's not up to the task. At a during an interview about the Unity Tour with Perez, all he did was tear at the Democratic Party. It was demonstration of how hopeless he is at bringing people together.
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Do you think African Americans and hispanics would vote for Sanders or Trump in a 2020 general election?
 
Fogdog

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Padawanbater2 said:
Do you think African Americans and hispanics would vote for Sanders or Trump in a 2020 general election?
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Do I think they would? How do I answer that?

Depends on what Sanders does between now and 2020. Also depends on who he's running against.

I think they could. But Sanders has a lot of work to do to build bridges. All I've seen him do is tear apart a very real attempt at building bridges between Sanders (Independent) and Perez (Democrat). His supporters helped in the destruction.

So, at this point in time with all possibilities available but no real progress shown by candidate Sanders to work to build relationships, no. I don't think he will improve his standing with African American and Hispanic voters. A hand was extended and Sanders didn't take it.
 
Padawanbater2

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Fogdog said:
Do I think they would? How do I answer that?

Depends on what Sanders does between now and 2020. Also depends on who he's running against.

I think they could. But Sanders has a lot of work to do to build bridges. All I've seen him do is tear apart a very real attempt at building bridges between Sanders (Independent) and Perez (Democrat). His supporters helped in the destruction.

So, at this point in time with all possibilities available but no real progress shown by candidate Sanders to work to build relationships, no. I don't think he will improve his standing with African American and Hispanic voters. A hand was extended and Sanders didn't take it.
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Sanders v. Trump 2020

Who would African Americans vote for in that general election?
 
Fogdog

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Padawanbater2 said:
Sanders v. Trump 2020

Who would African Americans vote for in that general election?
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Sanders has to win the primary first.

If he does, he will have gained a lot of trust within the African American community. I think that Sanders would have the African American vote in a race against Trump. Absolutely.

Who do you think Sanders will have to beat in the Democratic party primary?
 
Fogdog

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Johnnycannaseed1 said:
Told ya, your mum is a slut for them so go ask her, sure she can fill you right in :lol:
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oh now you are lowering yourself.

After all those fake really believable conspiracy theories you blatted on about revealed to us, now you degrade yourself with filthy language.

Now, about those plasma beings. I want to know more about plasma beings. poopy mouth.
 
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