Padawanbater2
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Look up the difference between "superPAC" and "PAC"
The DNC Reports Lowest Fundraising Since 2003
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Fogdog
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True, that.
They don't go around insisting everybody swear off legal donations from corporations and large donors. They say if you want their endorsement, you must sign the pledge not to. They talk about primarying conservative Democrats, which amounts the kind of thing a PAC does. I'm good with that.
I don't believe that hamstringing a campaign by limiting funding, when the opponent is not so limited, is a winning strategy. I'd be happy to be proven wrong.
SneekyNinja
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That's what the rest of the "establishment" Democrats believe too. They're all on record against Citizens United but realize you need power first to change the rules.
Fogdog
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I can point at the result. Sanders had woeful support from African American and Hispanic communities. Nobody can win the Democratic Party nomination without that support. I'm just stating the obvious. Or it should be to anybody who runs a campaign. Bernie has to attract more support from those groups. I'm no politician and have no idea how he does that. But I can point to why he lost to Clinton and say "that wheel is broken, you aren't going anywhere until you fix it".
Starting from where he is right now, he's got a lot of work to do and from what he's said recently, he's not up to the task. At a during an interview about the Unity Tour with Perez, all he did was tear at the Democratic Party. It was demonstration of how hopeless he is at bringing people together.
SneekyNinja
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Is that why they stated in their FEC declaration the following "...this committee intends to establish a separate bank account to deposit and withdraw funds raised in unlimited amounts from individuals, corporations..." ??
SneekyNinja
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*tumbleweed*
I'll just leave it to sink in a little longer...
I'll just leave it to sink in a little longer...
Padawanbater2
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Who's 'FEC declaration'?
Do you have any more info on this I can verify?
Padawanbater2
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Do you think African Americans and hispanics would vote for Sanders or Trump in a 2020 general election?
SneekyNinja
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The Justice Democrats when registering as a "Hybrid PAC" with the FEC.
Padawanbater2
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Source?
londonfog
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Neither will be on the ticket , but if you want to talk crazy talk. How about Kanya West vs Ted Nugent. Who comes out the winner ??
Padawanbater2
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Hypothetically, who would you vote for? Who do you think most African Americans would vote for?
Fogdog
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Do I think they would? How do I answer that?
Depends on what Sanders does between now and 2020. Also depends on who he's running against.
I think they could. But Sanders has a lot of work to do to build bridges. All I've seen him do is tear apart a very real attempt at building bridges between Sanders (Independent) and Perez (Democrat). His supporters helped in the destruction.
So, at this point in time with all possibilities available but no real progress shown by candidate Sanders to work to build relationships, no. I don't think he will improve his standing with African American and Hispanic voters. A hand was extended and Sanders didn't take it.
Padawanbater2
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Sanders v. Trump 2020
Who would African Americans vote for in that general election?
Fogdog
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Sanders has to win the primary first.
If he does, he will have gained a lot of trust within the African American community. I think that Sanders would have the African American vote in a race against Trump. Absolutely.
Who do you think Sanders will have to beat in the Democratic party primary?
Fogdog
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What about plasma beings? I want to know more about plasma beings.Dumb ass idiot buying into yet more illusion and the funny thing is you probably think you are smart reeling off your alphabet agency clap-trap
Padawanbater2
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What do you think Sanders have to offer African American voters?
Johnnycannaseed1
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Told ya, your mum is a slut for them so go ask her, sure she can fill you right in
Fogdog
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oh now you are lowering yourself.Told ya, your mum is a slut for them so go ask her, sure she can fill you right in
After all those
Now, about those plasma beings. I want to know more about plasma beings. poopy mouth.
Fogdog
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Who do you think Sanders will have to beat in the Democratic party primary?