Can 700 watts of LED strips grow trees???

[InTheValley]

I agree 420% maurice,

 

[InTheValley]

Imagine a 8x8 with a bunch of these to grow veggies, so cheap, and money saving galore. Or even growing little, hard to get plants for sale. you know what the going price for bamboo is?lol..

 

[Big Green Thumb]

they look fine..they will grow fast closer to the ights..
are you gonna do any vertical strips between the plants and not just top and outter sides?
that will help too..
at anyrate you are doing a good experiment and its working

Yes, I plan to put another 2x4 panel between the 2 rows of plants with leds on both sides, shining on both rows of plants. My 2x4 light Is slightly too wide so it will be more of a parallelogram than a rectangle when I get it installed.

 

[InTheValley]

Yeah, I know man. I plan on getting a 3x3 down the road. up in the air with 2x4 or 3x3. But I also like my lights higher. another thing, Im going to experiment with Solexx greenhouse panels. They diffuse light making the light HEALTHIER for the plants, giving a better break of the spectrum spread.

Funny, Does anyone follow GrandMasterLevel? He is a grow guru on Utube. He is the reason i strip my plants now.

anyways, he has a weekly show and they have a guest that makes the QBs. The dude just mentioned exactly what i said above about the diffusion using Greenhouse panels for FULLER penetration and spectrum sharpening. Where growers are using much brighter light then needed, then diffusing it to get healthier, stronger plants.

Another thing they mentioned, is about praying leaves. Last week, I mentioned something to someone about the plants praying all the time. But what I discovered was, they pray at the same time, everyday. So one day, i adjusted my light schedule, to put an hour ahead, to see if they still prayed after exactly 9 hours of light. Sure enough, 9 hours later, they prayed. So, To me, I took it as the plant is satisfied with the daily needed protons, and anything after that would be useless, especially in flower. This was all speculation on my findings of this plant.

This dude just said, when they pray, they are happy, and have enough light for the day, and pray because the leaves under the top leaves can get light.

This is why i said, maybe even in this thread, that when they pray, dim the light to 50% or even 25% and save power, or turn them off. Which is also beneficial because alot of growth happens at night, More sleep..

Toot, lol...

 

[InTheValley]

Yes, I plan to put another 2x4 panel between the 2 rows of plants with leds on both sides, shining on both rows of plants. My 2x4 light Is slightly too wide so it will be more of a parallelogram than a rectangle when I get it installed.

cant wait to see this man,

 

[ttystikk]

Funny, Does anyone follow GrandMasterLevel? He is a grow guru on Utube. He is the reason i strip my plants now.

anyways, he has a weekly show and they have a guest that makes the QBs. The dude just mentioned exactly what i said above about the diffusion using Greenhouse panels for FULLER penetration and spectrum sharpening. Where growers are using much brighter light then needed, then diffusing it to get healthier, stronger plants.

Another thing they mentioned, is about praying leaves. Last week, I mentioned something to someone about the plants praying all the time. But what I discovered was, they pray at the same time, everyday. So one day, i adjusted my light schedule, to put an hour ahead, to see if they still prayed after exactly 9 hours of light. Sure enough, 9 hours later, they prayed. So, To me, I took it as the plant is satisfied with the daily needed protons, and anything after that would be useless, especially in flower. This was all speculation on my findings of this plant.

This dude just said, when they pray, they are happy, and have enough light for the day, and pray because the leaves under the top leaves can get light.

This is why i said, maybe even in this thread, that when they pray, dim the light to 50% or even 25% and save power, or turn them off. Which is also beneficial because alot of growth happens at night, More sleep..

Toot, lol...

The guy they interviewed is on here; @Stephenj37826

 

[InTheValley]

Oooh, no shit, You must be listening? Im a tad behind, I rewind alot, lol..

 

[Rolla J]

Man the one i have in flower just wont quit Praying. Even when the soil has been dry lol

 

[InTheValley]

Looks great Jay.

 

[Big Green Thumb]

Lots of 9 leaf fans on this plant now

 

[InTheValley]

dang BGT, looks like its spewing growth by the minute.

Awesome

 

[Big Green Thumb]

I finished the 4th perimeter fixture


And decided the 46" strips are not worth the hassle hanging between the plants since those strips/fuxture just will not fit, so I am building a 43" wide x 23" fixture using 15 of the 22" strips, similar to the overhead fixtures, but with 8 strips facing one way and 7 facing the other to hang between the 2 rows of plants.

 

[Big Green Thumb]

With all of these fixtures and the power supplies I will have driving said fixtures, my 4x4 will have 1480 watts if light at full capacity. Currently with the 4 perimeter lights (250 watts) and the 2 overhead fixtures(200 watts each) , I am running at 650 watts with the power supplies turned down for veg. This still seems like overkill for 6 relatively small plants.

 

[Hybridway]

Not a perty picture but here's a rough idea of what happens w/ 100w of strips. The lights 4' long & had 2 Flo plants to light. Here's one.
Contributed to quite a bit of extra yield. Was funny cuz they were practically blocked out by bud.

 

[Big Green Thumb]

Not a perty picture but here's a rough idea of what happens w/ 100w of strips. The lights 4' long & had 2 Flo plants to light. Here's one.
They contributed to quite a bit of extra yield. Was funny cuz they were practically blocked out by all bud. View attachment 4004210

Dang, that's with 100 watts of side light? How much overhead? I have 400 watts total for my perimeter side lights, and 360 for the 'divider' light plus 720 watts overhead. Is 2 pounds yield out of line for an attainable goal? If I am actually using 1000 or more watts, that less than 1 gram per watt for 2#. 5 of the 6 plants are in 7 gallon smart pots and 1 in a 5 gallon pot. It seems to me the limiting factors are: the size of the grow room, and most importantly, grower's skill.

 

[Hybridway]

Dang, that's with 100 watts of side light? How much overhead? I have 400 watts total for my perimeter side lights, and 360 for the 'divider' light plus 720 watts overhead. Is 2 pounds yield out of line for an attainable goal? If I am actually using 1000 or more watts, that less than 1 gram per watt for 2#. 5 of the 6 plants are in 7 gallon smart pots and 1 in a 5 gallon pot. It seems to me the limiting factors are: the size of the grow room, and most importantly, grower's skill.

Well, that plant's getting 50 of the 100. It's a 100w light. Here's the plant itself. Think my ole lady cut into it a bit taking down the other one. Running 300w of Cobs from my Amare above. The one cut today appears to be over a # but you never know.
I would think you'd exceed your 2# quota as long as you have the space. Side-light growing takes a lil getting used to as far as management. I did nothing here n got lucky to not have broken branches. They tend to lean heavily towards the side lighting.
Looking forward to seeing your grow. Very nice set-up man!
360w on the divider.? . How long is your space again? As long as your strips don't get to hot & are not to intense then the buds can be touching w/o damaging. Actually I'm not sure about that cuz mine have a silicone layer over them that may protect the buds some. Just saying cuz things tend to get out if control for me sometimes.
What K-Temps did you go w/? Been following this thread but don't remember.

 

[Hybridway]

I finished the 4th perimeter fixture
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And decided the 46" strips are not worth the hassle hanging between the plants since those strips/fuxture just will not fit, so I am building a 43" wide x 23" fixture using 15 of the 22" strips, similar to the overhead fixtures, but with 8 strips facing one way and 7 facing the other to hang between the 2 rows of plants.
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Fucking A awesome!!!

 

[Hybridway]

Man the one i have in flower just wont quit Praying. Even when the soil has been dry lol
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That's Cool! Soft cobs or 10w diodes?

 

[Big Green Thumb]

All strips are 4000k. It would be nice to throw some 2700ks in there too, but I'm just going to run these this grow. This is all in a 4x4x6 grow area, but I can expand to 4x6x6 if these over grow the 4x4. The "divider" is a 2'x4' light that will be dividing the 6 plants into 2 rows of 3. I will have completed pics of it installed and running tomorrow. Each of my 2 overhead light fixtures and the divider has it's own 360 watt power supply that I can turn down as needed. The 4 perimeter lights are all being run off a 400 watt power supply that is also adjustable.

As of right now, none of the strips are being run over 500 mA.

 

[InTheValley]

Rockin it BGT. if you could put the plant in a bubble of light, u THEORETICALLY DID JUST THAT, LOL..

It makes sense, Ud think anyways,..

Now, one thing Im thinking about now, is, will light from all direction mess with hormones? Is there a difference of direct light VS reflected light, besides the whole degradation of said light.

This is the reason I want to experiment with Solexx Greenhouse panels.

1, diffusion 2, indirect penetration , ;/ lol...

The sun grows great because the Spread on light from all direction via to SO DAM BRIGHT,lol.. But if plants set hormons via "Towards the Light", as they say, hummmm..

Vertical grows seems awesome from folks here Ive seen. But is that because ALL light comes from same direction, ( AT IT )

Freakn awesome thread BGT, Your doing what Ive envisioned wanting myself, and its outstanding.

Ive ordered my Strips, and the package says its only 6x4x2 in. dementions. Uggg, they mailed me a brick