The flush "myth"

[SoOLED]

IME, with some strains it just brings out color, especially if you finish with a CHM or UBV bulb. but you don't have to hardcore flush.

I will tend just to use sugar-ree or sour-dee + hydrozyme that last few days. the hydrozyme help unlock salted nuets and lets the plants use the carbs from the sugar finishing products.

I have never washed out my pots to some low ppm.

 

[CannaBruh]

Confirmation Bias is about the only tactic the good ol' doc turns to when he hears anything dissonant. No worries doc not a dig just facts.

So let's try this, I like jelly, I try jelly again knowing of my biases towards liking jelly, oh look I still like jelly, so here is confirmation bias in action no? But does it negate the experiment? Do I all of a sudden NOT like jelly because confirmation bias was at play?

No, the experiment reiterates what we already know to be true.

 

[ruwtz]

Confirmation Bias is about the only tactic the good ol' doc turns to when he hears anything dissonant. No worries doc not a dig just facts.

So let's try this, I like jelly, I try jelly again knowing of my biases towards liking jelly, oh look I still like jelly, so here is confirmation bias in action no? But does it negate the experiment? Do I all of a sudden NOT like jelly because confirmation bias was at play?

No, the experiment reiterates what we already know to be true.

I see where you're going with this made up experiment to validate an opinion, aka bias

I'm purely being an ontological nit here, btw, not picking a fight. Sorry if its obnoxious...

 

[CannaBruh]

I see where you're going with this made up experiment to validate an opinion, aka bias

I'm purely being an ontological nit here, btw, not picking a fight. Sorry if its obnoxious...

I really don't give a shit either way

 

[SPLFreak808]

I agree its all in the dry & cure IF your harvest was healthy during chop however IME, i find the same thing as chem said.

Heavily overfed/underfed or stressed plants don't hold that same taste/smell and actually seem to have less "pop" to its flavor once cured compared to a healthy grow.

I don't see a deficient plant through flower any much different then a RA infested plant through flower, no amount of dry/cure will make it optimal again however it may get smoother and youll smell its dominant terpene more but thats about it.

 

[MichiganMedGrower]

I agree its all in the dry & cure IF your harvest was healthy during chop however IME, i find the same thing as chem said.

Heavily overfed/underfed or stressed plants don't hold that same taste/smell and actually seem to have less "pop" to its flavor once cured compared to a healthy grow.

I don't see a deficient plant through flower any much different then a RA infested plant through flower, no amount of dry/cure will make it optimal again however it may get smoother and youll smell its dominant terpene more but thats about it.

I have tested faded and green side by side on a few strains and agree with this for sure.

Healthy green ripening plants make more canabanoids too. And have better more lasting and complex highs.

The time to cure out the chlorophyll for smooth taste seems more strain dependent than anything else. Fruity indicas taste good sooner than peppery haze in my experience.

But fading the plant can have it smooth enough for sale maybe a week sooner. It's because of the chlorophyll not the nutrients. But it will never taste as strong or as good as a non faded one cured properly.

All of the techniques we argue on forums have their place. It's mis information and lack of knowledge that causes the this or that argument.

I may leach a pot before harvest. If I overfed the plant and there is too much salt buildup.

Or I may feed heavier than average to the end. It depends on the plant and the individual grow.

Wouldn't it be better for us all to discuss why we do things? And learn to agree on common plant science before we make up or follow myths?

That is why I studied and read years before actually trying to grow. And had a successful perpetual garden for almost 3 years before ever posting any info here.

I read all the threads too but 7 years later the same arguments and misinformation is still posted every day.

I think we may be high.

 

[Budley Doright]

I have a hard time keeping an outdoor plant green till chop up here and have burned the hell out of it trying last year lol. Indoor is a different puppy and easy to keep it healthy and green till the end. This is just my experience but temperature does play a huge role in how it finishes here.

 

[MichiganMedGrower]

I have a hard time keeping an outdoor plant green till chop up here and have burned the hell out of it trying last year lol. Indoor is a different puppy and easy to keep it healthy and green till the end. This is just my experience but temperature does play a huge role in how it finishes here.

I have no outdoor experience except working with a friend who has a Medical Greenhouse and in the Greenhouse he is able to keep his plants pretty green unless it gets very cold.

The outdoor plants he has in the woods always yellow some by finish.

I was definitely talking about my indoor experience. So many more variables outside.

His weed is much better when the season is longer though that is for sure.

 

[Bugeye]

I have a hard time keeping an outdoor plant green till chop up here and have burned the hell out of it trying last year lol. Indoor is a different puppy and easy to keep it healthy and green till the end. This is just my experience but temperature does play a huge role in how it finishes here.

You do need fairly mild nights or a heated grow to maintain healthy flat fan leaves with good color through harvest. Cold finishes do bring out some bitchin colors!

 

[Bugeye]

I have tested faded and green side by side on a few strains and agree with this for sure.

Healthy green ripening plants make more canabanoids too. And have better more lasting and complex highs.

The time to cure out the chlorophyll for smooth taste seems more strain dependent than anything else. Fruity indicas taste good sooner than peppery haze in my experience.

But fading the plant can have it smooth enough for sale maybe a week sooner. It's because of the chlorophyll not the nutrients. But it will never taste as strong or as good as a non faded one cured properly.

All of the techniques we argue on forums have their place. It's mis information and lack of knowledge that causes the this or that argument.

I may leach a pot before harvest. If I overfed the plant and there is too much salt buildup.

Or I may feed heavier than average to the end. It depends on the plant and the individual grow.

Wouldn't it be better for us all to discuss why we do things? And learn to agree on common plant science before we make up or follow myths?

That is why I studied and read years before actually trying to grow. And had a successful perpetual garden for almost 3 years before ever posting any info here.

I read all the threads too but 7 years later the same arguments and misinformation is still posted every day.

I think we may be high.

I agree, if I'm leaching a pot with a living plant in it, I've fucked up. No reason to ever do the 3x pot volume "flush". Controlled leaching with ppm checks on run off is defendable.

 

[MichiganMedGrower]

I agree, if I'm leaching a pot with a living plant in it, I've fucked up. No reason to ever do the 3x pot volume "flush". Controlled leaching with ppm checks on run off is defendable.

I have never needed more than an extra gallon of fresh water first to clear enough out. And I usually feed just a little less with another gallon right after.

Usually does the trick. I grow in small pots comparatively. They need more maintenance than larger ones.

 

[SPLFreak808]

I have tested faded and green side by side on a few strains and agree with this for sure.

Healthy green ripening plants make more canabanoids too. And have better more lasting and complex highs.

The time to cure out the chlorophyll for smooth taste seems more strain dependent than anything else. Fruity indicas taste good sooner than peppery haze in my experience.

But fading the plant can have it smooth enough for sale maybe a week sooner. It's because of the chlorophyll not the nutrients. But it will never taste as strong or as good as a non faded one cured properly.

All of the techniques we argue on forums have their place. It's mis information and lack of knowledge that causes the this or that argument.

I may leach a pot before harvest. If I overfed the plant and there is too much salt buildup.

Or I may feed heavier than average to the end. It depends on the plant and the individual grow.

Wouldn't it be better for us all to discuss why we do things? And learn to agree on common plant science before we make up or follow myths?

That is why I studied and read years before actually trying to grow. And had a successful perpetual garden for almost 3 years before ever posting any info here.

I read all the threads too but 7 years later the same arguments and misinformation is still posted every day.

I think we may be high.

I have an older GDP cut, if i pull a healthy flowering clone any less than 60-64 days, i get a blackberry taste instead of that sweet grape taste.

It is personal stash so i get to be spoiled about it right? Lol, if i fuck up and it taste like blackberry then i usually just sell it off and everyone loves it except me.

Taste really is subjective and thats why i stick to my ways with some phenos, especially the ones for personal use.

Lucky for me, i don't sell to dispensaries or patients so i have the opportunity to hang the entire plant (minus big fans) for about 2 weeks. Doing it this way actually seems to speed up my cure and does give the end result a final impact on taste. Some may disagree, but my taste buds dont? Lol

 

[Chip Green]

Once again, I'll throw this out there.
Try 1/2 flushing. Use a HALF gallon of 1/2 water, half flushing agent, only pour 1/2 of that, into half of the pot, of 1/2 of the plants.
Should get about a half pound.

 

[Budley Doright]

I have no outdoor experience except working with a friend who has a Medical Greenhouse and in the Greenhouse he is able to keep his plants pretty green unless it gets very cold.

The outdoor plants he has in the woods always yellow some by finish.

I was definitely talking about my indoor experience. So many more variables outside.

His weed is much better when the season is longer though that is for sure.

Honestly I don't notice a huge difference in quality between a faded outdoor plant and an indoor plant kept green of the same clones. Most of my outdoor is cloned from the last run of my indoor and nope not much difference other than the taste being a bit different but even that is close. But ya I do get some pretty cool colours in some phenos outdoors that don't happen inside. My night time temps on a late finisher can dip to the low 30's by the end of October.

 

[Budley Doright]

Once again, I'll throw this out there.
Try 1/2 flushing. Use a HALF gallon of 1/2 water, half flushing agent, only pour 1/2 of that, into half of the pot, of 1/2 of the plants.
Should get about a half pound.

 

[Bugeye]

Once again, I'll throw this out there.
Try 1/2 flushing. Use a HALF gallon of 1/2 water, half flushing agent, only pour 1/2 of that, into half of the pot, of 1/2 of the plants.
Should get about a half pound.

You half to be kidding me.

 

[MichiganMedGrower]

Once again, I'll throw this out there.
Try 1/2 flushing. Use a HALF gallon of 1/2 water, half flushing agent, only pour 1/2 of that, into half of the pot, of 1/2 of the plants.
Should get about a half pound.

I will half to try that.

 

[whitebb2727]

I have a hard time keeping an outdoor plant green till chop up here and have burned the hell out of it trying last year lol. Indoor is a different puppy and easy to keep it healthy and green till the end. This is just my experience but temperature does play a huge role in how it finishes here.

I wouldn't worry. Its damn near impossible to keep one solid green to the end outdoors.

Just about every plant has the odd yellow leaf every once in a while.

I notice it a lot guerilla growing. I tend to hide them well and the bottoms might not get the best light. The plant will shed those leaves to make more where light is more plentiful.

 

[Chunky Stool]

IME, with some strains it just brings out color, especially if you finish with a CHM or UBV bulb. but you don't have to hardcore flush.

I will tend just to use sugar-ree or sour-dee + hydrozyme that last few days. the hydrozyme help unlock salted nuets and lets the plants use the carbs from the sugar finishing products.

I have never washed out my pots to some low ppm.

Hydrozyme?
You probably mean hygrozyme, but it doesn't unlock "salted nuets". You'd be better off using something like FF Sledgehammer (yucca).

 

[Budley Doright]

I wouldn't worry. Its damn near impossible to keep one solid green to the end outdoors.

Just about every plant has the odd yellow leaf every once in a while.

I notice it a lot guerilla growing. I tend to hide them well and the bottoms might not get the best light. The plant will shed those leaves to make more where light is more plentiful.

Ya I have never worried about fade but after hearing all the hype about keeping it green I thought I'd give it a try lol. It was an attempt at failure.