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Hurricane Irma

Justin-case

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"Look at all that red" said Trump as he points to the satellite images of Irma. His advisors are quick to remind him it's not a map of his "historic" electoral win. Looking confused but undeterred, trumps mutters one of his favorite lines "fake news" as he flips to another cable news channel.
 
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Fogdog

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Justin-case said:
"Look at all that red" said Trump as he points to the satellite images of Irma. his advisors are quick to remind him it's not a map of his "historic" electoral win. Looking confused but undeterred, trumps mutters one of his favorite lines "fake news" as he flips to another cable news channel.
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Trump must be repeating something he heard on the "news".

Limbaugh says it's all fake news to sell water and batteries.

“Here comes a hurricane, local media goes on the air, ‘Big hurricane coming, oh, my God! Make sure you got batteries. Make sure you got water. It could be the worst ever. Have you seen the size of this baby? It’s already a Cat 5. Oh, my God, oh, my God, it’s bigger than the island of Haiti. Oh, my God.’ People run to the stores, they stock up everything, and they hoard. And they end up with vacant stores, nothing there. And it’s a big success. TV stations got eyeballs, the advertising businesses have sold out of business, gotta restock and the cycle repeats.”

And the real corker is his take on Hurricane Harvey. He says media coverage is blown way out of proportion in order to push climate change

“Hurricane Harvey and the TV pictures that accompany that go a long way to helping further and create the panic,” Limbaugh said.

"People in all of these government areas” are “hell-bent” on proving climate change."

Climate change has already been proven. Cynics like Rush aren't convinced. There is a difference.

Oh and, Hurricane Harvey's total bill to the Houston area is about $50 Billion, maybe as much as $150 B. The bill for disaster relief in discussion by the GOP congress is $8 B and it's not even clear that the bill can get by the ultra ultra righties.

"create the panic." :finger:
 
captainmorgan

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It's quite amusing that two of the worst states for denying climate change will be ripped to shreds by hurricanes on steroids because of climate change, can anyone say irony. The sad thing is the rich people that push this agenda won't suffer in either state, just the brainwashed poor people there.
 
Jimdamick

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rkymtnman said:
It's God's will.
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It's God's will that there will be no money left to build that fucking wall in the Congressional budget that is coming up.

And maybe FEMA will be refunded also, that would be nice.

WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump is promising billions to help Texas rebuild from Harvey-caused epic flooding, but his Republican allies in the House are looking at cutting almost $1 billion from disaster accounts to help finance the president’s border wall.

The pending reduction to the Federal Emergency Management Agency’s disaster relief account is part of a massive spending bill that the House is scheduled to consider next week when lawmakers return from their August recess. The $876 million cut, which is included in the 1,305-page measure’s homeland security section, pays for roughly half the cost of Trump’s down payment on the U.S.-Mexico border wall that the president repeatedly promised Mexico would finance.

Now, where does this country come up with the money needed to pay for repairs in Houston, not to mention Puerto Rico and Florida, which are going to get slammed ?

Maybe not buy so many fighter jets or ships that the Navy doesn't even want, or even need?

Maybe scrap giving tax reductions to billionaires and millionaires?

Maybe not build a useless wall?

How's that for an idea?
 
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greg nr

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The cuts they are talking about in the house are much worse than limiting disaster relief funding, if you can wrap your head around it.

The cuts they are proposing are t the agency itself, and will slash it's ability to plan, prepare, coordinate and provide resources on the ground both before and during an actual emergency. The agency is the backbone of relief efforts.

The $6B congress is talking about is to pay obligations relating to insurance claims, road repairs to federal highways, power, sewer and water infrastructure, and to provide temporary housing. It's all after disaster money.

Without an agency to plan and coordinate, disasters will be much worse, and many more lives will be lost.

They are shredding the infrastructure of government and putting the money into their own pockets.
 
Fogdog

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greg nr said:
The cuts they are talking about in the house are much worse than limiting disaster relief funding, if you can wrap your head around it.

The cuts they are proposing are t the agency itself, and will slash it's ability to plan, prepare, coordinate and provide resources on the ground both before and during an actual emergency. The agency is the backbone of relief efforts.

The $6B congress is talking about is to pay obligations relating to insurance claims, road repairs to federal highways, power, sewer and water infrastructure, and to provide temporary housing. It's all after disaster money.

Without an agency to plan and coordinate, disasters will be much worse, and many more lives will be lost.

They are shredding the infrastructure of government and putting the money into their own pockets.
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HUD secretary Ben Carson: "People need help. I'm telling my people, don't tell my why something can't be done, tell me how something can be done." Never mind, HUD is at a low point in staffing and budgets have already been cut to the bone. In light of this disaster and the fact that most HUD housing is in ruins in the area, he defended Congressional plans to cut his agency's budget by $8 Billion. He said they will make up the difference in efficiency. Oh, and the $8 B cuts are for "reducing the budget deficit." Wanna bet actually because tax cuts?

I've worked for shit heads like this. He doesn't have a clue how his agency runs. Long on rhetoric, short on know how. People who work for HUD will work until they are exhausted and won't get any help from him. Some scandal will break because people will start taking short cuts. Rules will become paper tigers. This is what we get when a party gains control that believes "the problem is the government".

http://www.npr.org/2017/09/06/548819256/harvey-recovery-will-take-time-hud-secretary-ben-carson-says
 
st0wandgrow

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Jimdamick said:
It's God's will that there will be no money left to build that fucking wall in the Congressional budget that is coming up.

And maybe FEMA will be refunded also, that would be nice.

WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump is promising billions to help Texas rebuild from Harvey-caused epic flooding, but his Republican allies in the House are looking at cutting almost $1 billion from disaster accounts to help finance the president’s border wall.

The pending reduction to the Federal Emergency Management Agency’s disaster relief account is part of a massive spending bill that the House is scheduled to consider next week when lawmakers return from their August recess. The $876 million cut, which is included in the 1,305-page measure’s homeland security section, pays for roughly half the cost of Trump’s down payment on the U.S.-Mexico border wall that the president repeatedly promised Mexico would finance.

Now, where does this country come up with the money needed to pay for repairs in Houston, not to mention Puerto Rico and Florida, which are going to get slammed ?

Maybe not buy so many fighter jets or ships that the Navy doesn't even want, or even need?

Maybe scrap giving tax reductions to billionaires and millionaires?

Maybe not build a useless wall?

How's that for an idea?
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I was watching the news last night and someone mentioned that Trumps DACA boner is just a thinly veiled quid pro quo to get congress to sign off on funding for his wall. If they cough up the money for the wall, the dreamers stay. If they don't, all 800,000 get deported...
 
zeddd

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Fogdog said:
HUD secretary Ben Carson: "People need help. I'm telling my people, don't tell my why something can't be done, tell me how something can be done." Never mind, HUD is at a low point in staffing and budgets have already been cut to the bone. In light of this disaster and the fact that most HUD housing is in ruins in the area, he defended Congressional plans to cut his agency's budget by $8 Billion. He said they will make up the difference in efficiency. Oh, and the $8 B cuts are for "reducing the budget deficit." Wanna bet actually because tax cuts?

I've worked for shit heads like this. He doesn't have a clue how his agency runs. Long on rhetoric, short on know how. People who work for HUD will work until they are exhausted and won't get any help from him. Some scandal will break because people will start taking short cuts. Rules will become paper tigers. This is what we get when a party gains control that believes "the problem is the government".

http://www.npr.org/2017/09/06/548819256/harvey-recovery-will-take-time-hud-secretary-ben-carson-says
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Trump grandstanding, setting Carson up for failure, you're fired tv shit, dumb as fuk, ... codes you say? NK?... is this really happening or have I been tripping?
 
Fogdog

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zeddd said:
Trump grandstanding, setting Carson up for failure, you're fired tv shit, dumb as fuk, ... codes you say? NK?... is this really happening or have I been tripping?
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HUD is exactly the kind of program Republicans can honestly say they were too incompetent to run properly.
 
Padawanbater2

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Fogdog said:
HUD secretary Ben Carson: "People need help. I'm telling my people, don't tell my why something can't be done, tell me how something can be done." Never mind, HUD is at a low point in staffing and budgets have already been cut to the bone. In light of this disaster and the fact that most HUD housing is in ruins in the area, he defended Congressional plans to cut his agency's budget by $8 Billion. He said they will make up the difference in efficiency.
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I wonder what other agencies heads have supported cutting their own budget, to, as Carson says, cut the deficit. It seems like Trump has appointed people who fundamentally disagree with whatever agency they're assigned to. DeVos in education, Pruitt in environment, Clovis in science, etc..

Republicans have been trying to dismantle the fundamental institutions in America that garner truth for decades
 
Fogdog

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Padawanbater2 said:
I wonder what other agencies heads have supported cutting their own budget, to, as Carson says, cut the deficit. It seems like Trump has appointed people who fundamentally disagree with whatever agency they're assigned to. DeVos in education, Pruitt in environment, Clovis in science, etc..

Republicans have been trying to dismantle the fundamental institutions in America that garner truth for decades
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Not hypocritical about it either. They are the party with the belief that "the government is the problem." By cuts or mismanagement, they show they have no intention of putting government to work for people. Same happened under GWB. I know some federal Department of Forestry professionals who recently retired and can now speak freely. They see the same things happening in the Department of the Interior, BLM and Dept. of Forestry. Anybody who was leading departments studying global warming have been reassigned to meaningless work. Carson is only visible because his area of responsibility got some media attention due to the hurricane.

It's a fucking right wing Tsunami that's hitting the professional ranks in government.
 
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