Inneedofbuds
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Do I care what candidate the rest of the world supports? Yes, of course.Do you actually care who they support?
Do I care what candidate the rest of the world supports? Yes, of course.Do you actually care who they support?
Why?Do I care what candidate the rest of the world supports? Yes, of course.
The difference is, they don't hold the title "Leader of the Free World." And you assume i'm oblivious to what's going on in world politics. I can't vote for leaders of other countries, but I very much care about their politics.Why?
Who would Hugo Chaves support? And Putin? And Amajism-adad?
Vi
Do you realize how intergrated America is with the rest of the world? We have to care what they think of us. Our economy depends on it.Don't forget to ask about who Osama Bin Laden and Fidel Castro would support.
The rest of the world isn't going to look after our interests. We have to look after our interests ourselves.
Well, clarify this a little bit, buds ... Are you saying that the main criteria is that they "like" us ... or that they respect us?Do you realize how intergrated America is with the rest of the world? We have to care what they think of us. Our
economy depends on it.
I believe it would be wonderful if they did both. I believe you are referring to respect as military might instead of the way we are. I believe we could be that superpower without shoving the fact down peoples throats. Kinda like how Duh-Dave tells people he disagrees with how he could kick their asses. That certainly doesn't get respect, it gets loathing. The only one I've ever referred to kicking their ass on this forum is you, and that was just puffery. The problem is, even puffery makes no friends. Going around the world letting everyone know that we could kick their asses does not garner respect. It gathers hatred, the kind expressed by Muslim extremists. Tell me the truth, when I threatened to kick your ass, did that garner any Respect?Well, clarify this a little bit, buds ... Are you saying that the main criteria is that they "like" us ... or that they respect us?
Vi
that's what I often find so disturbing about disputing the fact that he is Muslim. It makes me sounds like I care about his religion. I don't care at all if he were Muslim. The fact that he isn't just makes the whole thing even more ridiculous.Without reading the pages between page 1 and here, I'd like to offer up an odd idea. Does it really matter, would it really matter, if he were Muslim? That wouldn't matter to me, as long as he's not trying to make religious doctrine into law, or essentially trying to bring us closer to a theocracy. What if he were a Buddhist, Wiccan, Pagan, or Zoroastrian?
This proves what I've been saying for quite some time now, that the new nigger on the block is an Arab.
Is Neo still among us? He sure threw out what appear to be some bannable speech up there on page 1.
I guess I don't really see how you could have one without the other. When I say "like", I don't mean holding hands skipping down a beach, I just mean a relationship that will allow equal trade. Take Iran for example, maybe not the best example, but I am against sanctions of any country. Iran and America can have their differences socially, politically, religiously, whatever, but there that's no reason trade lines should be broken. In theory, I'm all about free market. I think that's the best solution to global problems. Giving the fact that I am only 26 and i've lived in 6 different countries on 4 different continents, I don't really see myself as just American, but as an "earthian" or whatever you want to call it. I love America but the days that of her being the single dominant figure on this planet are over. You're question Well, clarify this a little bit, buds ... Are you saying that the main criteria is that they "like" us ... or that they respect us?Well, clarify this a little bit, buds ... Are you saying that the main criteria is that they "like" us ... or that they respect us?
Vi
Oh, well, if it was in the bible then it MUST be right.im here, and like ive BEEN saying, idc if he is muslim atheist christian or w/e im agnostic and i could give a damn what he says, but this woman told me, who isnt that religious either, about a passage in the bible explain that a man of muslim decent will exceed power and he over all, and this man will bring the end of the world. idk, it really made me think, and i really think mccain looks like satan, and obama just isnt really tellin the truth of what he really wants to do. neither would get my vote if there were another candidate up for election. but they are the only two really. I just dont think obama is really going to make a difference, he says hes gonna bring change, but no one knows exactly what kinda change he is actually lookin into inforcing. AND YES I GOT AN INFRACTION FOR MY COMMENTS ON PAGE 1, BUT I APPOLOGIZE AND I WAS JUST UPSET WITH SOMEONE CALLING ME A RACIST CUZ I AM AGAINST THE BLACK GUY RUNNIN FOR PRESIDENT, which is NOT TRUE AT ALL, i dont give a damn if he was yellow white green blue or even orange, who cares, i just dont see him makin this world a better safer more open country to live in. Change is good, but only if the change is what this country really needs
See, my problem with that view point is that what you are advocating is turning over some of our national sovereignty to a supra-national organization.Why do we need to continue to occupy so many foreign countries? With no cold war to fight why the need to build our military might to such large numbers? We have proven to be a difficult country to attack (once in over 200 years?) why the need to suppress opposing political views in countries with little or no resources to offer the US or ability to carry out such attacks? Why dance around the UN when we were originally part of creating it and claim to continue to support it? The UN is supposed to be the world police force not the US, UN was set up to deal with international law violations not the US, if this isn't working then abolish it or withdraw from all together. China has been able to come out of the cold war pretty unharmed and seems to have been made a bit stronger by it's isolationistic policies and we as the US have whored ourselves out to the point we have a hard time distinguishing who owns what in the US.
Let's worry about taking care of the countries on the other side of the pond a bit less and see if we can strengthen our country again so that once again we have the strongest economy, work force and freedoms in the world, doing this will only spill over to those around us and become a model others will WANT to follow, rather than forced into being dragged along for the ride.