Too much nutrients or not enough??

[Jom]

Columbian gold in cyco seamix (coco,peat,perlite,kelp) I've been using advanced nutrient organic iguana grow (veg). LED solar storm 440s for lighting. I may have given it too much nutrients or not enough?? 2ml to 1L is what advanced nutrient recommends..any ideas? (Columbian gold in second pic)

 

[Yzfirecat]

Idk man they dont look bad. Top dress with some worm castings my goto lol. I never go by what the company says either. Usually half strength till i see how she handles it. Every strain will be different. I got a Libertyhaze going and shes a beast. I used sensi a+b on her then went organic. Id suggest a complete fertilizer and some microbs.

 

[meetjoeblow]

Those are stunted my friend. Are you phing the nutes? Flush like 2-3xs ,ph and feed them at half strength. The flush should rule out a salt build up, phing should rule out a nute lockout,and half strength should rule out a ppm issue

 

[Jom]

Idk man they dont look bad. Top dress with some worm castings my goto lol. I never go by what the company says either. Usually half strength till i see how she handles it. Every strain will be different. I got a Libertyhaze going and shes a beast. I used sensi a+b on her then went organic. Id suggest a complete fertilizer and some microbs.

Idk man they dont look bad. Top dress with some worm castings my goto lol. I never go by what the company says either. Usually half strength till i see how she handles it. Every strain will be different. I got a Libertyhaze going and shes a beast. I used sensi a+b on her then went organic. Id suggest a complete fertilizer and some microbs.

I'm going to do away with the iguana juice organic grow I just purchased sensi coco a+b and B-52..im going to flush them 2 more times although they have started to look better after the first flush. Prob going to start with the new nutrients in a couple days and I'll see how it goes! Which complete fertilizer would you suggest?

 

[Jom]

Those are stunted my friend. Are you phing the nutes? Flush like 2-3xs ,ph and feed them at half strength. The flush should rule out a salt build up, phing should rule out a nute lockout,and half strength should rule out a ppm

I'm new to this so I'm taking notes..I haven't done any of that..Could you give me directions on phing my nutes I would greatly appreciate it. In a couple days I'll be using sensi coco a+b and b-52 I'll flush two more times until then

 

[kratos015]

Ehh, things are looking pretty good to me based on what I'm seeing. How old are they? Like, if those are more than 6 weeks old then yeah, I'd be concerned but things look quite good to me from what I'm seeing.

Think of growing cannabis like you would with cooking. Consider adding salt to a dish you're cooking. You can add it in small amounts until it's just right, or you can add too much and have to start over. Underfeeding your plant is WAY not a big deal when compared to overfeeding it. Only thing you have to do to an underfed plant is give it a little more food and no big deal. An overfed plant though? That'll cause you all sorts of issues.

That being said, they look pretty darn good. If I had to guess, I'd say those are about 3, maybe 4 weeks old at the latest? Even if those plants are 8 weeks old, worst case scenario for you is that they aren't growing to their full potential which is infinitely better than them being stressed. It is much better to have an underfed plant than an overfed and stressed plant. The former can be remedied quite easily, where as the latter can cause all sorts of issues.

However, all that being said, I'd personally lay off the nutrients for another week or two. While your girls look just fine and appear quite healthy, it doesn't appear that they are quite old enough to be receiving any extra nutes. The nutes in your medium should carry them for a while, I don't like to add nutrients to the medium until I'm seeing the 6th or even 7th set of nodes on the plant. Up until the 6th/7th node you can easily get away with a light mix of perlite, coco/peat, and EWC.

Remember, less is more. You can always add more but you can't take any away.

best of luck my man.

 

[Jypsy Dog]

NO MATTER WHAT....It say's on the bottle, Start at 1/2 and adjust up. They look good, let them tell you what they need. Treat them as Step Kids and you won't go wrong. Try water /water /feed for a while.

 

[n0thing]

How often are you watering?

 

[Jypsy Dog]

How often are you watering?

When needed... End of my last Coco grow, every other day. I water by weight on the start up. Know what "DRY" feels like. Overwatering is too easy to avoid, but seems to be an issue with Newbies. Water by Weight.. NOT Date!

 

[Jom]

Ehh, things are looking pretty good to me based on what I'm seeing. How old are they? Like, if those are more than 6 weeks old then yeah, I'd be concerned but things look quite good to me from what I'm seeing.

Think of growing cannabis like you would with cooking. Consider adding salt to a dish you're cooking. You can add it in small amounts until it's just right, or you can add too much and have to start over. Underfeeding your plant is WAY not a big deal when compared to overfeeding it. Only thing you have to do to an underfed plant is give it a little more food and no big deal. An overfed plant though? That'll cause you all sorts of issues.

That being said, they look pretty darn good. If I had to guess, I'd say those are about 3, maybe 4 weeks old at the latest? Even if those plants are 8 weeks old, worst case scenario for you is that they aren't growing to their full potential which is infinitely better than them being stressed. It is much better to have an underfed plant than an overfed and stressed plant. The former can be remedied quite easily, where as the latter can cause all sorts of issues.

However, all that being said, I'd personally lay off the nutrients for another week or two. While your girls look just fine and appear quite healthy, it doesn't appear that they are quite old enough to be receiving any extra nutes. The nutes in your medium should carry them for a while, I don't like to add nutrients to the medium until I'm seeing the 6th or even 7th set of nodes on the plant. Up until the 6th/7th node you can easily get away with a light mix of perlite, coco/peat, and EWC.

Remember, less is more. You can always add more but you can't take any away.

best of luck my man.

My liberty haze is about 6 Weeks and everything else you see is 4 to 5 weeks ..lots of great info thanks!!

 

[Jom]

NO MATTER WHAT....It say's on the bottle, Start at 1/2 and adjust up. They look good, let them tell you what they need. Treat them as Step Kids and you won't go wrong. Try water /water /feed for a while.

I will post pics soon and see how this goes!

 

[Jom]

How often are you watering?

I water daily as this coco dries out rather quickly

 

[Jypsy Dog]

I water daily as this coco dries out rather quickly

My mix is 70/30. Was a 5 gallon fabric. Never had to water daily. Was a Sage n Sour Scrog. She was a big girl. Either way, try the staggered feeding for a week. Have a good run off. I water/ fed 11/2 gallons each time. I like to see them get pretty light b4 watering. LOVE KILLS.

 

[n0thing]

I water daily as this coco dries out rather quickly

Take the advice in this thread and go slow with feeding at 1/2 strength and work your way up.

They should definitely be bigger for 6 weeks so something is stunting growth. I'd advise you to switch to watering every other day. Allow the roots to get oxygen and search for water to build a solid root system and in turn you'll see more growth. Hope this helps.

 

[meetjoeblow]

It's not hard. But to be fair the lost is probably going to be long since I'm assuming I'm going to have to be very detailed.
So a ph pen and a ppm pen or e.c. pen will make your life a whole lot easier. You can get a digital ph pen from eBay for like $10. They come with an acidic powder and an alkaline powder. And you take the powder and mix it with distilled water and use it to calibrate the pen. From there u just dip it in. That s the simplest way at least. They can get kinda expensive at the hydro store so if u don't want to wait on eBay shipping they also use them for testing pool water so the hardware store is a good second resort. But make sure it's digital the other ones aren't worth the effort. They work by dropping the solution in question on litmus paper and u compare the resulting color to a scale. But ive found that your ppm effect the color and depending on how high the count is it'll produce tones that r super hard to read.
But you want to test your water. Test your mixed nutrients. And test your runoff. Each of the various elements in your soil have different ph ranges in which they are available to your plants for up take. Most over lap at 6.3-6.5ish range ( double check that though) so it's Entirely possible to have the perfect amount of every element the plant needs but the plant not be able to absorb it. Normally people starting out the they're going through a deficiency, try to fix it , and then end up with a toxicity and or some other compound complex problem. And we all hate compound complex pot problems.
Different milunicipalities have different standards for "drinkable water" ( exp... flent) and most nute lines have stabilizers but ud be surprised by how fucked up water can get.
Test the run off to get an idea of wats going on in the soil. There may or may not be a difference but u want to make to make sure it isn't drastic.

 

[meetjoeblow]

And define watering. How often does a watering include nutrients. Oh and as a general rule of thumb the second set of five fingered leaves should be the size of a mans hand.