Trump unites NFL - against him.

TacoMac

TacoMac

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What really gets me is this:

It's the most classy protest I've ever seen.
  • They're not turning their backs.
  • They're not yelling obscenities.
  • They're not screaming slogans.
  • They're not throwing bricks through store windows.
  • They're not setting cars on fire.
They're simply taking a knee. That's it.

It's the same really as flying the flag at half mast. It's a sign that something is wrong. It's a sign that we need to talk.

I'm a white, almost 50 year old man. I remember blacks having to sit at the rear of the classroom when I started school. I remember them always being treated as third rate citizens at best.

I'm not offended by what they're doing one bit. I wish I could do something to let them know they're not alone in this; that I DO realize we have problems, that I DO understand that things aren't as they should be, that I DO understand that there needs to be some serious change.

Sadly, it doesn't matter what I think. I'm simply outnumbered by white, insecure racist.
 
zeddd

zeddd

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The players probably have issue with the concept of their ancestors blood washing away their foul footsteps, unpatriotic... if this is your modern 21 century patriotism aka trumpnazism, then kneel.
Btw the sons of bitches remark was the real Trump, "let's get nasty" or more accurately "let's get Nazi"
 
Bugeye

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Unclebaldrick said:
Please show me the part of the employment contract that states that they have to stand during the National Anthem and then show me the court that decided it is enforceable.

Go. Do it. Or shut your word-hole.
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It doesn't have to be that specific, here is an example from a Houston contract:

11.SKILL, PERFORMANCE AND CONDUCT. Player understands that he is competing with other players for a position on Club’s roster within the applicable player limits. If at any time, in the sole judgement of Club, Player’s skill or performance has been unsatisfactory as compared with that of other players competing for positions on Club’s roster, or if In addition, during the period any salary cap is legally in effect, this contract may be terminated if, in Club’s opinion, Player is anticipated to make less of a contribution to Club’s ability to compete on the playing field than another player or players who Club intends to sign or attempts to sign, or another player or players who is or are already on Club’s roster, and for whom Club needs room.

So please do explain how employment contracts are similar to slavery. I'm still curious on that one.
 
Unclebaldrick

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Bugeye said:
It doesn't have to be that specific, here is an example from a Houston contract:

11.SKILL, PERFORMANCE AND CONDUCT. Player understands that he is competing with other players for a position on Club’s roster within the applicable player limits. If at any time, in the sole judgement of Club, Player’s skill or performance has been unsatisfactory as compared with that of other players competing for positions on Club’s roster, or if In addition, during the period any salary cap is legally in effect, this contract may be terminated if, in Club’s opinion, Player is anticipated to make less of a contribution to Club’s ability to compete on the playing field than another player or players who Club intends to sign or attempts to sign, or another player or players who is or are already on Club’s roster, and for whom Club needs room.

So please do explain how employment contracts are similar to slavery. I'm still curious on that one.
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First off, I never said they were.

Second off, I am at a loss how that could be interpreted as a right to mandate the players' actions during the national anthem.

You are delusional if you think that the above quoted clause would pass muster with the courts or the players union in the event of firing for kneeling during the anthem.

It seems like you believe that this contract buys 100% control of the players' mind and body. Why don't you tell me why your interpretation is not similar to slavery? I don't think the contract is like slavery, but I think you think it is.
 
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UncleBuck

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Bugeye said:
It doesn't have to be that specific, here is an example from a Houston contract:

11.SKILL, PERFORMANCE AND CONDUCT. Player understands that he is competing with other players for a position on Club’s roster within the applicable player limits. If at any time, in the sole judgement of Club, Player’s skill or performance has been unsatisfactory as compared with that of other players competing for positions on Club’s roster, or if In addition, during the period any salary cap is legally in effect, this contract may be terminated if, in Club’s opinion, Player is anticipated to make less of a contribution to Club’s ability to compete on the playing field than another player or players who Club intends to sign or attempts to sign, or another player or players who is or are already on Club’s roster, and for whom Club needs room.

So please do explain how employment contracts are similar to slavery. I'm still curious on that one.
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the supreme court has already ruled on this one, racist white loser.

stop trying to tell black people how they may or may not peacefully protest you nazi sack of shit.
 
Bugeye

Bugeye

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Unclebaldrick said:
First off, I never said they were.

Second off, I am at a loss how that could be interpreted as a right to mandate the players' actions during the national anthem.

You are delusional if you think that the above quoted clause would pass muster with the courts or the players union in the event of firing for kneeling during the anthem.

It seems like you believe that this contract buys 100% control of the players' mind and body. Why don't you tell me why your interpretation is not similar to slavery? I don't think the contract is like slavery, but I think you think it is.
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Your words: But paying that black man millions to play football is sort of like buying him isn't it?

They mandate all sorts of behaviors and ban all sorts of behaviors in the NFL. Much like every other work environment.

Of course a contract does not buy 100% control, which is why it is nothing like slavery. Free will is involved with an employment contract. Sort of the opposite of slavery, don't you think?
 
Unclebaldrick

Unclebaldrick

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Bugeye said:
Your words: But paying that black man millions to play football is sort of like buying him isn't it?

They mandate all sorts of behaviors and ban all sorts of behaviors in the NFL. Much like every other work environment.

Of course a contract does not buy 100% control, which is why it is nothing like slavery. Free will is involved with an employment contract. Sort of the opposite of slavery, don't you think?
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I have heard that morons cannot understand sarcasm but this is the strongest evidence I have seen yet.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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So Colin Kaepernick didn't get picked up this season, but I'd say he's definitely shown some leadership skills.

I'm guessing he'll get an offer to play in the NFL again.

I still think he has a brighter future in politics than football- and in his case that's saying something.
 
Unclebaldrick

Unclebaldrick

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ttystikk said:
So Colin Kaepernick didn't get picked up this season, but I'd say he's definitely shown some leadership skills.

I'm guessing he'll get an offer to play in the NFL again.

I still think he has a brighter future in politics than football- and in his case that's saying something.
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I see Jay Cutler is as good as usual in Miami. Does Kaepernick like hot, muggy weather and good Cuban food?
 
Unclebaldrick

Unclebaldrick

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Ah, the idiot Trump speaks again...

Donald J. Trump‏Verified account@realDonaldTrump 2h2 hours ago





Ratings for NFL football are way down except before game starts, when people tune in to see whether or not our country will be disrespected!


Donald J. Trump‏Verified account@realDonaldTrump 1h1 hour ago





The booing at the NFL football game last night, when the entire Dallas team dropped to its knees, was loudest I have ever heard. Great anger




Donald J. Trump‏Verified account@realDonaldTrump 1h1 hour ago


But while Dallas dropped to its knees as a team, they all stood up for our National Anthem. Big progress being made-we all love our country!




Big progress is being made. So tired of winning. Merry Christmas. Great anger.
 
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