Trump unites NFL - against him.

dagwood45431

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I probably am naive . Here is how I see it. Hillary cheated in the primary.....FACT..... I really don't know 100% that my votes are even counted...... Trump won the primary because the media gave him way more coverage.

I do more studies on things like how the WTC buildings where not brought down by planes alone . How 2.1 trillion was announced missing from the pentagon on 9/10/01 and a plane just so happens to have crashed into the offices where the investigation into the missing money was taking place. We had the grandson of a Nazi banker as president at the time ushering in the war on terror. (look up Prescott Bush). I think an elite has made the policy behind the curtains for a very long time and the divide and conquer technique is working well for them. I don't vote because I feel it really doesn't make a big difference any more. I mean really Trump and Clinton are the best we have to offer as a country...... Not in the least....
You know what? A basic education and understanding of how things work is a great inoculator against nutty conspiracy theories. Why would I take you seriously on any topic when you didn't even know who Tom Cotton is? You're ignorant. Stupid things makes sense to you. What are you selling? Guess I better go check out some shit I'll make sure to never buy. You offend me. Probably others as well. You're not a very serious business person, are you?
 

Fogdog

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Sure it's very possible and likely . I've never been black and can't really tell you first hand. It's also possible that some people are born with an IQ of 60 and some with 150. The more intelligent people have a clear advantage. Now what can we do to remidy both these situations? I'm not being a smart ass either. Im just saying if we want to end racism sexism and the rest of it we all need to unite because most white people are not racist. I don't know the answer any better than you. I do know if we tear our society to shreds that everybody loses. If we keep dividing ourselves we will have a problem. I assure you eutopia will not arise from the ashes of a civil war. A dictator will. TRUMP WOULD JUMP RIGHT IN.
"I've never been black and can't really tell first hand" I take that as a disagree.

You aren't unusual. Most white people in the US aren't objective about their advantages. 53% or white women and 58% of white men don't see racism as something they benefit from and other experience difficulty from.

I'll just pull one statistic up, that of wages:



Over time, through recession and booms, white men out earn Black and Hispanic Americans by almost 25%. That's a heavy advantage.

What to do? Just some ideas. I know you are going to hate this.

Step up affirmative action policies.
Stronger enforcement actions with stiffer penalties for wage discrimination
Improved education opportunities for minorities and women
Financial assistance to minority owned businesses such as low interest government loans.

In other words, start giving real advantages to make up for systemic advantages that white men naturally have.
 

dagwood45431

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What was being said that triggered your bailage brah?
You know, how minorities get all the attention making it seem like white people have it easy, but they don't! Whaaaaaa!

I like you. I don't think you are a racist by any stretch of the imagination. I know you are not, in fact. The video is. Dog whistles. You're not hearing this one but it's blowing loudly there.

Can we just agree to disagree and rock on? I enjoy the shit out of your posts.
 

Stephenj37826

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You know what? A basic education and understanding of how things work is a great inoculator against nutty conspiracy theories. Why would I take you seriously on any topic when you didn't even know who Tom Cotton is? You're ignorant. Stupid things makes sense to you. What are you selling? Guess I better go check out some shit I'll make sure to never buy. You offend me. Probably others as well. You're not a very serious business person, are you?
Not at all. I just grew up in the projects with a single mother being called SPIC as my nickname in school. I am Italian btw. I then went on to start my own drywall company at the age of 20. I worked 70+ hrs a week up until I was 36 yrs old. I had several Million dollar plus years working several men all of whom made 18+ per hour. I was known as the best spray man in Knoxville TN. It doesn't matter though you have your opinion of me and that is that. I on the other hand have not judged you in any way.
 

Stephenj37826

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"I've never been black and can't really tell first hand" I take that as a disagree.

You aren't unusual. Most white people in the US aren't objective about their advantages. 53% or white women and 58% of white men don't see racism as something they benefit from and other experience difficulty from.

I'll just pull one statistic up, that of wages:



Over time, through recession and booms, white men out earn Black and Hispanic Americans by almost 25%. That's a heavy advantage.

What to do? Just some ideas. I know you are going to hate this.

Step up affirmative action policies.
Stronger enforcement actions with stiffer penalties for wage discrimination
Improved education opportunities for minorities and women
Financial assistance to minority owned businesses such as low interest government loans.

In other words, start giving real advantages to make up for systemic advantages that white men naturally have.
Read my above post. I've been called Mexican my whole life.
 

Fogdog

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I probably am naive . Here is how I see it. Hillary cheated in the primary.....FACT..... I really don't know 100% that my votes are even counted...... Trump won the primary because the media gave him way more coverage.

I do more studies on things like how the WTC buildings where not brought down by planes alone . How 2.1 trillion was announced missing from the pentagon on 9/10/01 and a plane just so happens to have crashed into the offices where the investigation into the missing money was taking place. We had the grandson of a Nazi banker as president at the time ushering in the war on terror. (look up Prescott Bush). I think an elite has made the policy behind the curtains for a very long time and the divide and conquer technique is working well for them. I don't vote because I feel it really doesn't make a big difference any more. I mean really Trump and Clinton are the best we have to offer as a country...... Not in the least....
Point me to a society that fits the libertarian ideal and is able to defend itself, have a good standard of living and meets or exceeds the quality of life that Norway, Denmark and Sweden's people have.
 

abalonehx

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Actually, it bugs me. I can't let it go, brah. I find the video truthful to my own experience.
You don't get a golden ticket to the lap of luxury or a free ride in life just because your skin is white.
It seems extreme to me. And there are other advantages just like that video goes through.
They exist, and there's no denying this.
 

dagwood45431

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Not at all. I just grew up in the projects with a single mother being called SPIC as my nickname in school. I am Italian btw. I then went on to start my own drywall company at the age of 20. I worked 70+ hrs a week up until I was 36 yrs old. I had several Million dollar plus years working several men all of whom made 18+ per hour. I was known as the best spray man in Knoxville TN. It doesn't matter though you have your opinion of me and that is that. I on the other hand have not judged you in any way.
US Senator Tom Cotton. There are only 100 of them and he's noisy. You're making politically-tinged assertions and you don't know who Tom Cotton is. You're ignorant.

Write a few more paragraphs. Won't change anything. There's no getting past this. You have no credibility whatsoever. But keep yammering about your nutty theories and all the things wrong with the world.
 

dagwood45431

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I know its hard to accept.... Really. Just watch the speed of the building as it collapses. Also world trade center 7 fell too.... Oh and the news reported that one before it fell. LOL

Your loss.
Nuts like you make it more difficult to spot the real shenanigans.

Senator Tom Cotton. Did you look him up? Do you know what state he is from now? Do you know what his role was in obstructing the Iranian agreement. Do you know his political ideology and how this is part of the fissure in the Republican party? No? But you like to watch nutty videos with nutty commentary describing nutty things and you somehow think you're qualified to comment on our tax structure and how big our government should be? You're making a fool of yourself. Again. You're making a fool of your business. Why are you doing this? Stop. I'm serious.
 

Fogdog

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Read my above post. I've been called Mexican my whole life.
White person. You are a white person. You've experienced the privilege of not having people single you out because of your black skin and African racial features. Being called falsely called spi_ -- compared to what African Americans experience every day isn't even close. You poor downtrodden white man.

The whole video below is great but at 9:10, Jon Stewart discusses his perception of what Black People experience every day with grace and dignity and that you have not shown even a trace of understanding.
 

Stephenj37826

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US Senator Tom Cotton. There are only 100 of them and he's noisy. You're making politically-tinged assertions and you don't know who Tom Cotton is. You're ignorant.

Write a few more paragraphs. Won't change anything. There's no getting past this. You have no credibility whatsoever. But keep yammering about your nutty theories and all the things wrong with the world.

Tell us your struggles and success.

I knew nothing of politics before because I never watched TV or did anything besides work. One thing I learned. If you respect others and treat others how you would have them treat you it will work out. I was going to make it one way or the other. Seems to be a symptom of society today. Everyone wants but don't want to work hard and make it happen. I make it happen because I have never given up. I've worked myself 180+ days without a day off more than once. You are right though. I should've been paying attention all these years. I can say I have given to a lot of people in my life and have never loved money.
 

dagwood45431

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Tell us your struggles and success.

I knew nothing of politics before because I never watched TV or did anything besides work. One thing I learned. If you respect others and treat others how you would have them treat you it will work out. I was going to make it one way or the other. Seems to be a symptom of society today. Everyone wants but don't want to work hard and make it happen. I make it happen because I have never given up. I've worked myself 180+ days without a day off more than once. You are right though. I should've been paying attention all these years. I can say I have given to a lot of people in my life and have never loved money.
You're spouting right wing talking points. Where are you getting them from? Co-workers? Family? Radio? Where? I accept and understand what you say above. I just think you're being taken for a ride as you start to pay more attention. Misinformation is a profitable industry. Chose wisely. It does not appear that you have so far.
 

st0wandgrow

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can't disagree with this..
Ok, just watched this. What the guy had to say was 100% true. I just don't know that I would categorize those "priveldges" along side skin color.

Think of it this way. Good looking people definitely have a leg up in life. No doubt. But if you took a good looking white woman, and a good looking black woman, who do you think is more likely to catch a break from a cop that pulls them over? I think skin color is the biggest priveldge of them all, but that's not to say that being tall, or smart, or good looking doesn't have its perks.
 

Bugeye

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Not at all. I just grew up in the projects with a single mother being called SPIC as my nickname in school. I am Italian btw. I then went on to start my own drywall company at the age of 20. I worked 70+ hrs a week up until I was 36 yrs old. I had several Million dollar plus years working several men all of whom made 18+ per hour. I was known as the best spray man in Knoxville TN. It doesn't matter though you have your opinion of me and that is that. I on the other hand have not judged you in any way.
I like the idea of not judging people. I don't buy into your conspiracy theories but oh well. I'll buy your products if they are good and I need them, and not if they suck, regardless of your politics.
 

Stephenj37826

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White person. You are a white person. You've experienced the privilege of not having people single you out because of your black skin and African racial features. Being called falsely called spi_ -- compared to what African Americans experience every day isn't even close. You poor downtrodden white man.

The whole video below is great but at 9:10, Jon Stewart discusses his perception of what Black People experience every day with grace and dignity and that you have not shown even a trace of understanding.

White person. You are a white person. You've experienced the privilege of not having people single you out because of your black skin and African racial features. Being called falsely called spi_ -- compared to what African Americans experience every day isn't even close. You poor downtrodden white man.

The whole video below is great but at 9:10, Jon Stewart discusses his perception of what Black People experience every day with grace and dignity and that you have not shown even a trace of understanding.

Oh and I'm also Ukrainian as well. So I've also been called Sand ***** as well. In the summer I'm darker than a lot of Africans ..... I really don't let it stop me. Say what you will. I have had people not let me work on a job and I found out later they don't like people like me..... I don't want to work for someone like that anyways.
 

Bugeye

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Ok, just watched this. What the guy had to say was 100% true. I just don't know that I would categorize those "priveldges" along side skin color.

Think of it this way. Good looking people definitely have a leg up in life. No doubt. But if you took a good looking white woman, and a good looking black woman, who do you think is more likely to catch a break from a cop that pulls them over? I think skin color is the biggest priveldge of them all, but that's not to say that being tall, or smart, or good looking doesn't have its perks.
Short people got no reason to live. :bigjoint:
Well said on your comments.
 

dagwood45431

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Ok, just watched this. What the guy had to say was 100% true. I just don't know that I would categorize those "priveldges" along side skin color.

Think of it this way. Good looking people definitely have a leg up in life. No doubt. But if you took a good looking white woman, and a good looking black woman, who do you think is more likely to catch a break from a cop that pulls them over? I think skin color is the biggest priveldge of them all, but that's not to say that being tall, or smart, or good looking doesn't have its perks.
Weird. I don't remember reading about a time when short people got tied to a post and whipped while being called "shorty" or were forced to work in the fields. Come on. You people cannot be serious with this shit.
 
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