Why is every vendor fighting with each other

REALSTYLES

REALSTYLES

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CobKits said:
i dont wanna call you out but weren't you straight up calling me a liar last week for no reason?

https://www.rollitup.org/t/best-led-lights-for-under-200.949545/page-5#post-13795930

not aware of any other drama going on on the board, but don't go pretending you dont push other people's buttons on purpose.....
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????? is not calling you a liar calling you a liar is when I say you are lying about the data you posted about Cree and the CMX22 is better in efficiency.
 
CobKits

CobKits

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So youre calling me a liar twice? lol

sounds like you fail to understand the graph i posted. im not lying about anything, just posting actual measurements

put up some actual measurements of chips or get off your soapbox, man. until then youre just a datasheet jockey with some pretty gardens, sorry.
 
REALSTYLES

REALSTYLES

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CobKits said:
So youre calling me a liar twice? lol

sounds like you fail to understand the graph i posted. im not lying about anything, just posting actual measurements

put up some actual measurements of chips or get off your soapbox, man. until then youre just a datasheet jockey with some pretty gardens, sorry.
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If you weren't lying why are you defending yourself? Why don't you have a second party do your testing?
 
CobKits

CobKits

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do my testing of what? i dont even sell fixtures. i routinely test chips i dont even sell.

anybody with a $150 par meter can easily replicate that data, those are commonly available chips

you should try it sometime. just about every other vendor has, they just dont publish their raw data.

arguing that im a "liar" because i will stand up to accusations from a person who knows absolutely nothing of what hes talking about is ridiculous. I'm just saying dont "argue" with me, do some testing and let your data do the talking. In absence of that you are literally just talking trash with nothing behind it, sorry.
 
REALSTYLES

REALSTYLES

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CobKits said:
do my testing of what? i dont even sell fixtures. i routinely test chips i dont even sell.

anybody with a $150 par meter can easily replicate that data, those are commonly available chips

you should try it sometime. just about every other vendor has, they just dont publish their raw data.

arguing that im a "liar" because i will stand up to accusations from a person who knows absolutely nothing of what hes talking about is ridiculous. I'm just saying dont "argue" with me, do some testing and let your data do the talking. In absence of that you are literally just talking trash with nothing behind it, sorry.
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funny thing is you need the correction codes to get the accurate numbers from the par meter and your chart says CMX22 is better than CXB3590 DB bin which is wrong and I'm calling you out on that
 
nfhiggs

nfhiggs

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CobKits

CobKits

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REALSTYLES said:
funny thing is you need the correction codes to get the accurate numbers from the par meter
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Thats a negatory. every measurement in that plot is only relative to the other measurements, and you could use any decent meter whatsoever regardless of calibration. repeatability is the only requirement and in that regard i would bet dimes to dollars a $30 lux meter would show the exact same trends with perhaps a bit more scatter in the data.

REALSTYLES said:
and your chart says CMX22 is better than CXB3590 DB bin which is wrong and I'm calling you out on that
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"calling you out on that" = worthless
"here is my data that shows otherwise" = lemme know

ill tell you what, youre a good guy and i wouldnt even be bothering you if you werent outright defaming me.

lets do this.
-ill buy the cheapest shittiest lux meter i can find
-you send me 2 of the latest, greatest, highest bin, most recent date code CXB3590s you can get your hands on thru your super special hookup. mark em if you want so you know im not pulling funny business
-we'll do a live youtube where ill let you pick out 2 cxm22s from a tray.
-ill mount both of these as well as the cxbs live on the air and will take measurements in the sphere with both the licor and the cheap lux sensor, and users can see the raw data right from the meters and plot it along as we go

if the CXM22 have equal or greater PPFD/W than the cxb (lets say "equal" = within 1/2% when averaged across all measurements), ill keep your CXB chips

if the CXB are greater (more than 1/2% greater flux at almost twice the cost), ill send you the two CXM22 plus a 16 oz framing hammer and safety glasses to be cost for cost on the bet. you can then make a vid smashing the cxm22 if you wish
 
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REALSTYLES

REALSTYLES

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CobKits said:
Thats a negatory. every measurement in that plot is only relative to the other measurements, and you could use any decent meter whatsoever regardless of calibration. repeatability is the only requirement and in that regard i would bet dimes to dollars a $30 lux meter would show the exact same trends with perhaps a bit more scatter in the data.



"calling you out on that" = worthless
"here is my data that shows otherwise" = lemme know

ill tell you what, youre a good guy and i wouldnt even be bothering you if you werent outright defaming me.

lets do this.
-ill buy the cheapest shittiest lux meter i can find
-you send me 2 of the latest, greatest, highest bin, most recent date code CXB3590s you can get your hands on thru your super special hookup. mark em if you want so you know im not pulling funny business
-we'll do a live youtube where ill let you pick out 2 cxm22s from a tray.
-ill mount both of these as well as the cxbs live on the air and will take measurements in the sphere with both the licor and the cheap lux sensor, and users can see the raw data right from the meters and plot it along as we go

if the CXM22 have equal or greater PPFD/W than the cxb (lets say "equal" = within 1/2% when averaged across all measurements), ill keep your CXB chips

if the CXB are greater (more than 1/2% greater flux at almost twice the cost), ill send you the two CXM22 plus a 16 oz framing hammer and safety glasses to be cost for cost on the bet. you can then make a vid smashing the cxm22 if you wish
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REALSTYLES

REALSTYLES

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I don't make money selling cobs @CobKits I did become a advertiser for Kingbrite and I can sell CXB3590 for less than anyone on here that's why you are pushing other brands. I'm going to share my growing skills now. I know more than what I say.
 
MMJ Dreaming 99

MMJ Dreaming 99

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QUOTE="PilouPilou, post: 13809767, member: 942521"]it's why chinese LED grow lights are not the best!!......ok I admit it's an easy reply but I couldn't resist![/QUOTE]

Not to get way off topic here but would the Chinese Burple LEDs on Scamazon.com do a better job if they had a majority of white LEDs versus lots of reds and blues?? I still do not get why all .of their little LED lights have mainly reds and blues.

I doubt a load of thise 3 w, 5 w and even double led 10 w could match the diodes on say a QB. I wonder what others think??
 
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Bobby Twothumbs

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chemphlegm said:
coffee and weed/hash go so fine together eh? I really cant think of better times than early morning wake and bake, percolated coffee and the sunrise.

percolator tip=

this is the only edible I settled on. I put a cup of cream and top with water, then jam some buds or hash into the basket, topped with coffee or tea, or cacao beans or chocolate or peppers and some cane sugar or all at the same time to the line. i use a quarter ounce of bud, or 2 grams of hash for a whole pot. its my Percolator Bhang, and I dare anyone to try it. its really that good, hits all the spots.
know that I cannot tolerate a candy, or pop, or eat oil, I flipped out when I used dmso with concentrate on my fucking finger!.

but this drink is the sip of the gods, I promise.
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Yum
 
emepher

emepher

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CobKits said:
-ill buy the cheapest shittiest lux meter i can find
-you send me 2 of the latest, greatest, highest bin, most recent date code CXB3590s you can get your hands on thru your super special hookup. mark em if you want so you know im not pulling funny business
-we'll do a live youtube where ill let you pick out 2 cxm22s from a tray.
-ill mount both of these as well as the cxbs live on the air and will take measurements in the sphere with both the licor and the cheap lux sensor, and users can see the raw data right from the meters and plot it along as we go

if the CXM22 have equal or greater PPFD/W than the cxb (lets say "equal" = within 1/2% when averaged across all measurements), ill keep your CXB chips

if the CXB are greater (more than 1/2% greater flux at almost twice the cost), ill send you the two CXM22 plus a 16 oz framing hammer and safety glasses to be cost for cost on the bet. you can then make a vid smashing the cxm22 if you wish
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Wow. Gauntlet thrown, and without ignoring proper safety equipment!
 
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sethimus

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REALSTYLES said:
I don't make money selling cobs @CobKits I did become a advertiser for Kingbrite and I can sell CXB3590 for less than anyone on here that's why you are pushing other brands. I'm going to share my growing skills now. I know more than what I say.
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you argument like a 6 year old. "i know more than you, nanananana"

he asked you for chips to proof your point, man up...
 
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