Autoflowers indoor - It really is that simple

Heisengrow

Heisengrow

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Creature1969 said:
That dude you agree with is going to end up in your thread shitting on you for growing auto's. The whole "why eat a cheeseburger when you can have steak" argument. Like what you're doing in this thread. It's almost like me saying he's stupid for growing in soil when he could get bigger, fatter plants with more bud in coco or hydro. Almost, because there's at least some fact to my claim.

Not everyone grows and participates here for praise and adoration and I'm pretty certain there are no set rules for growing weeds.

A lot of people out there think it's too hard/complicated to grow weed. Also a lot who think auto's are even harder or not worth growing.

THIS is the exact thread that made me order auto seeds the day my photo seeds arrived in the mail. This thread is why I'm on my 4th grow and still haven't popped the photo beans. This thread is what disproved the "auto's are shit" posts I had seen everywhere I looked.

Anywho.. Nice username and pic. :bigjoint:

Sorry for the rant. Just finished burning and my mind's in overdrive. Puff, puff, pass :joint:
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Yeah i.dont worry about that guy.i can agree and disagree to all kinds of fukkery no sweat off my balls.i personally just hate to see new growers develop bad habits and any experienced growers will never agree 110 degrees in a grow room is far from optimum even running co2.i just see a lot of bad info and to each there own.some guys get stuck in there ways and never really take any more advice and just exaggerate there yields and quality.no different than shitty tattoo artist.
 
EveryBlueMoon

EveryBlueMoon

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Creature1969 said:
That dude you agree with is going to end up in your thread shitting on you for growing auto's. The whole "why eat a cheeseburger when you can have steak" argument. Like what you're doing in this thread. It's almost like me saying he's stupid for growing in soil when he could get bigger, fatter plants with more bud in coco or hydro. Almost, because there's at least some fact to my claim.

Not everyone grows and participates here for praise and adoration and I'm pretty certain there are no set rules for growing weeds.

A lot of people out there think it's too hard/complicated to grow weed. Also a lot who think auto's are even harder or not worth growing.

THIS is the exact thread that made me order auto seeds the day my photo seeds arrived in the mail. This thread is why I'm on my 4th grow and still haven't popped the photo beans. This thread is what disproved the "auto's are shit" posts I had seen everywhere I looked.

Anywho.. Nice username and pic. :bigjoint:

Sorry for the rant. Just finished burning and my mind's in overdrive. Puff, puff, pass :joint:
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Bro I feel the exact same way. I never wanted an auto on my block let alone in my room. After reading this ENTIRE thread I had to grab some auto's too. Doing only auto this run... Just like you did right after receiving some Glueberry OG, Lemon OG, and Afghan Kush photo's, I locked em up and ordered some Auto Mazar and Auto Hindu K... AND THIS THREAD IS THE REASON WHY>>>:leaf::hump:
 
Heisengrow

Heisengrow

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ruby fruit said:
I have my autos on 24 hrs light ..might not be the best way to do it but they are rock hard and in soil hand watered....
Oh and I think my trichs are all still there well I would hope so ....
I'm just a noob but 24 hrs light seems to be working ?
@Heisengrow should I just piss on this and do it all your way ?
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24 hours of light on a plant is worthless.they have to have down time to close there stomatas to get a break from gas exchange.to much heat can also cause the stomas to close and the plant will cease to exchange gas.grow however you want and listen to whoever you want but that bud is pretty weak IMO.
But trich production is not all about environment genetics also play a role but giving your plants 24 hours of light during flower is wasting your electricity when you will.get the same results with 18.Growers grow some of the dankest stickiest bud with 12 hours of light all 8 weeks of flowering.When your plant is in flower mode it can handle 12 hours of dark.It is not going to slow it down or make it smaller.Thats a common misconception.autos and photos still take 8 weeks to flower PERIOD the end.The only difference is autos will beging to flower under 18 hours of light.The extra light allows them to stack bud sites and veg out further than photos during that short 3 week transistion but after the stretch is over and they are building calyxs 14 hours of light is plenty.Still not convinced?
explain why allthe plants and buds on the edge of your lights have healthier trichs and the buds underneath the tops are smaller but always have more trichs.Because all that extra heat and light is fucking up your plants.

Auto bud under 16 hours of light and still 2 weeks left.This is a feminized strain i made crossing 2 other autos.

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Heisengrow

Heisengrow

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Justaquickquestionforyou said:
why do seedbanks like mephisto genetics run their auto 24/7 below light?
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So if your a seedbank that's make you an expert on growing cannibas?pretty poor comparison since I've gotten shit from several seedbank.
It's just my opinion.24 hours of light on autos is not worth the extra wattage and I get far better product with dark cycles.plants look healthier and trich up better for me.
In theory by adding 24 hours of light should make them.finish faster than 18 but it don't and the extra weight u gain is so negligible it don't matter.
 
Heisengrow

Heisengrow

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759 growers vs 156 that gives the nod to less than 24.i found this interesting.also breeders of autos will say 24/0 because there plants may finish sooner.there selling short flowering weeks that entice impatient noobs to buy there genetics and not selling medicine.if I was a breeder of autos I would want quick yields to sell seeds.no better way than to run 24/0.watt for watt I think 18 and 20 hour plants look and smell better.ive done it all 3 ways

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Justaquickquestionforyou

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well, i run my plants on 20/4...even this amount of light needs a real good environment for the plant to use the light effectively

i was just asking because i think there is definetely a positive effect on running the light 24/0 in a perfect environment + good genetics and not looking for the
electricity bill
lol

you said you run autos at 12/12 after 1/2 weeks after flower without any difference in yield? would be nice because i saw foxtailing when running autos at 20/4 but maybe that was my fault
 
Heisengrow

Heisengrow

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Justaquickquestionforyou said:
well, i run my plants on 20/4...even this amount of light needs a real good environment for the plant to use the light effectively

i was just asking because i think there is definetely a positive effect on running the light 24/0 in a perfect environment + good genetics and not looking for the
electricity bill
lol

you said you run autos at 12/12 after 1/2 weeks after flower without any difference in yield? would be nice because i saw foxtailing when running autos at 20/4 but maybe that was my fault
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I run 24/0 till they crown than 20/ for a week or 2 than 18/6.only the last week or so I run 14 hours of light.12 if I have other photos going and don't feel like closing the doors.i get better looking buds and colors as well as smell.i think it has more to do with the lower temps in dark cycle than anything that really brings out the plants potential.i don't think the light itself is a factor.plants don't need rest but the qualities we look for is different than a plants survival.were looking for high trichome profiles and flavor.i think a cooler 4 hour to 6 hour cycle brings that out in a plant.
 
EveryBlueMoon

EveryBlueMoon

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Justaquickquestionforyou said:
well, i run my plants on 20/4...even this amount of light needs a real good environment for the plant to use the light effectively

i was just asking because i think there is definitely a positive effect on running the light 24/0 in a perfect environment + good genetics and not looking for the
electricity bill
lol

you said you run autos at 12/12 after 1/2 weeks after flower without any difference in yield? would be nice because I saw fox-tailing when running autos at 20/4 but maybe that was my fault
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I've done a shit ton of research myself bro and I agree with your 20/4 schedule. Most of the auto breeders (seed companies) themselves tell you flat out that you CAN do 24/0 but they recommend that you do 20/4... where this 18/6 for auto's is coming from IDK??? maybe just stuck on photo veg lighting? either way I've read a shit ton about this and it seems that 20/4 is the best way to go. That doesn't mean I think anyone should blindly accept what I've said here. In fact I hope nobody does, I hope they take the time to experiment on their own.

Whether people wanna grow on 24/0, 0/24 or anything in between it changes nothing about the next guys set up. Furthermore when I take a look back at those who changed the world like Tesla, Faraday, Newton, DaVinci, or more relevant to this topic is Jagadish Chandra Bose. They never took anyone's word for fact, they tested, failed, and triumphed in their own time. Personally I find it far more respectable to experiment in such a fashion even if they use base knowledge as a starting point. Clearly that's just my two cents, but nevertheless I had to say it.

Happy growing. :weed:bongsmilie:leaf:
 
Kerovan

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EveryBlueMoon said:
I've done a shit ton of research myself bro and I agree with your 20/4 schedule. Most of the auto breeders (seed companies) themselves tell you flat out that you CAN do 24/0 but they recommend that you do 20/4... where this 18/6 for auto's is coming from IDK??? maybe just stuck on photo veg lighting? either way I've read a shit ton about this and it seems that 20/4 is the best way to go. That doesn't mean I think anyone should blindly accept what I've said here. In fact I hope nobody does, I hope they take the time to experiment on their own.

Whether people wanna grow on 24/0, 0/24 or anything in between it changes nothing about the next guys set up. Furthermore when I take a look back at those who changed the world like Tesla, Faraday, Newton, DaVinci, or more relevant to this topic is Jagadish Chandra Bose. They never took anyone's word for fact, they tested, failed, and triumphed in their own time. Personally I find it far more respectable to experiment in such a fashion even if they use base knowledge as a starting point. Clearly that's just my two cents, but nevertheless I had to say it.

Happy growing. :weed:bongsmilie:leaf:
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the 18/6 is coming from photoperiod experience, this is true. But it's also a reasonable amount of light with a reasonable amount of darkness for the plants to respirate and a reasonable reduction in electrical usage over 24/0.
 
Heisengrow

Heisengrow

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Kerovan said:
the 18/6 is coming from photoperiod experience, this is true. But it's also a reasonable amount of light with a reasonable amount of darkness for the plants to respirate and a reasonable reduction in electrical usage over 24/0.
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Some people dont get it.considering all things are right the extra weight you get off the extra 4 hours is so negligible that its not worth the extra electricity.Now if your plants are all fucked up and over fed over watered and other issues than i could see a reason for extra lights to squeeze in those extra grams but for a seasoned grower that can pull over a gram a watt that extra heat and light is not worth it.This is just my opinion.People can grow on 24/0 all they want.
 
ruby fruit

ruby fruit

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Heisengrow said:
24 hours of light on a plant is worthless.they have to have down time to close there stomatas to get a break from gas exchange.to much heat can also cause the stomas to close and the plant will cease to exchange gas.grow however you want and listen to whoever you want but that bud is pretty weak IMO.
But trich production is not all about environment genetics also play a role but giving your plants 24 hours of light during flower is wasting your electricity when you will.get the same results with 18.Growers grow some of the dankest stickiest bud with 12 hours of light all 8 weeks of flowering.When your plant is in flower mode it can handle 12 hours of dark.It is not going to slow it down or make it smaller.Thats a common misconception.autos and photos still take 8 weeks to flower PERIOD the end.The only difference is autos will beging to flower under 18 hours of light.The extra light allows them to stack bud sites and veg out further than photos during that short 3 week transistion but after the stretch is over and they are building calyxs 14 hours of light is plenty.Still not convinced?
explain why allthe plants and buds on the edge of your lights have healthier trichs and the buds underneath the tops are smaller but always have more trichs.Because all that extra heat and light is fucking up your plants.

Auto bud under 16 hours of light and still 2 weeks left.This is a feminized strain i made crossing 2 other autos.

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Honestly i couldn't give 2 fucks wat u think cos u come across like a complete fucken wanker
 
Heisengrow

Heisengrow

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Always funny when noobs asking for advice and when they don't get the answers they want they call you a douche.get like 2 whole grows under there belt by following some shitty advice instead of researching everything on there own.grow some average leafy buds with heat stress and act like there grow masters.these forums never change
 
HighLowGrow

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I really started this thread for a noob wanting to grow a few autos under a light with minimal equipment.

For those of you that want to talk “advanced”, there are other forum and threads for that.

It’s that simple.
 
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