Butane of choice

Flagg420

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With Puretane being so hard to get these days, what brand of butane do people prefer now?

I have nightmare memories of the crap I used to use, with my honeybee extractor.... no vac, no winterizing... my god was I making some filthy crap and smoking it!
 

BobCajun

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Isn't DME supposed to be all around better than butane? Praxair sells that too. Maybe DME sucks compared to butane, I'm just asking. It's slightly polar so may produce a somewhat different product. Here's a dude making a shatter type product.

 
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Flagg420

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Agree, I am running a closed column rig, personal batches like once a month. We got a praxair near here, took over the place I used to get CO2 from....
 
I had a bad experience before using extractors. Don't ever use Korean brand butane because it's not worthy. I've tried it and it didn't satisfy my needs. Others say the taste is funny when using that brand of extractor.
 

Flagg420

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it dont work that way...

BUT, if ur in the market, just shop bestvaluevacs.... u can start off with a closed column setup that can be made into part of a closed loop later if ya get into it, and have the funds.
 

J_Blaze23

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it dont work that way...

BUT, if ur in the market, just shop bestvaluevacs.... u can start off with a closed column setup that can be made into part of a closed loop later if ya get into it, and have the funds.
How long do you let the butane sit in the column. I did a run in a mason jar a let the first wash sit for around 10-15min the second more around 20min. Seems like it could have sat longer without losing fluid level. It came out amazing, I've been getting stuff from colorado dispensary and pretty much blew any of that away. I did a fresh frozen since I had stuff to harvest as well as dry, the dry I whipped into crumble and was my fav. No purge vac just heat flashing for 2 days then whipping
 

Flagg420

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And you put that shit in your body!? Find a lab... have your shit tested. Its full of nasties....

Whats the losing fluid level thing? Whats that even supposed to mean? Whatever you think it means, it don't, forget it.

First, only takes a minute or 3, much more than that, and the butane starts breaking down the chlorophyll causing harsh taste, dark color, and just plain contaminates a good oil....

Get. A. Vac. Chamber.

Thats not a suggestion you suicidal fool.... people kill or badly fuck themselves up by doing the kind of seat-of-the-pants game playing you are with anything explosive/combustible/toxic.

I don't smoke my shatter after 2 days under full vac, and you went 2 days of 'heat flashing' and then whipped the remaining butane into a nice airy wax/budder?

Seriously, don't make another batch until you have taken the time to learn how to do it, or we may never see another post from you again... and you will fuel the argument that cannabis is dangerous, and home growers and processors shouldn't be allowed.

When holding a can of butane... ur holding a fucking bomb bro.... know what you are doing before you go playing with it.

(Also look into winterizing, which may help to rescue batches like the black goo I envision came from your.... mason jars....
 

cookie master

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Greywolf says it takes 4 hours under up to 115 F to purge after making it cotton candy. 8 hours to get excessively low ppm. Winterizing only removes the waxes, not turn dark to light. I think black goo comes from bad starting material.
 

J_Blaze23

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And you put that shit in your body!? Find a lab... have your shit tested. Its full of nasties....

Whats the losing fluid level thing? Whats that even supposed to mean? Whatever you think it means, it don't, forget it.

First, only takes a minute or 3, much more than that, and the butane starts breaking down the chlorophyll causing harsh taste, dark color, and just plain contaminates a good oil....

Get. A. Vac. Chamber.

Thats not a suggestion you suicidal fool.... people kill or badly fuck themselves up by doing the kind of seat-of-the-pants game playing you are with anything explosive/combustible/toxic.

I don't smoke my shatter after 2 days under full vac, and you went 2 days of 'heat flashing' and then whipped the remaining butane into a nice airy wax/budder?

Seriously, don't make another batch until you have taken the time to learn how to do it, or we may never see another post from you again... and you will fuel the argument that cannabis is dangerous, and home growers and processors shouldn't be allowed.

When holding a can of butane... ur holding a fucking bomb bro.... know what you are doing before you go playing with it.

(Also look into winterizing, which may help to rescue batches like the black goo I envision came from your.... mason jars....
I don't know you and your knowledge and you don't know mine. I've done plenty of research and get packets from Colorado dispensary that didn't look or smoke as well as what I made. Your wrong about the soak time, I've watched videos of people in labs do a soak for 30min to an hour at -0 temps on the column, that is dewaxing
 

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cookie master

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I think to effectively dewax it has to be colder than that and for over 2 hours. But you dont inline dewax with the material soaking, you have a empty chamber that holds the butane /oil cold for a couple hours while the waxes crystallize.
 

J_Blaze23

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I think to effectively dewax it has to be colder than that and for over 2 hours. But you dont inline dewax with the material soaking, you have a empty chamber that holds the butane /oil cold for a couple hours while the waxes crystallize.
So the column with the material and dry ice is just to keep the trichomes cold for easier extraction? I thought it was also to help dewaxing, I know it needs to be mixed with ethanol and frozen then run through filters and cleaned up. I know what I made is clean, I've smoked that dark harsh stuff and mine has none of that or sizzle. I don't even know how they make that dark stuff, either the trim is crap or too much heat or it's an ethanol run.
 

cookie master

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No its more like cold is always good, so the regular column is cold and you run butane through that and the weed into a larger column with a sleeve on the outside which was empty. Now the butane sits in the dewaxing column a couple hours before releasing a valve and letting it through the filters. This is to do it without alcohol.
 

J_Blaze23

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after watching a video with the column I see what you mean I thought that was sitting with the trim in it but it's actually below the material. How long do you let the trim soak for or does it pass straight through to the dewax column?
 

cookie master

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ive never done a dewax inline yet, the inline design has lots of ball valves, to keep it up top, then in the dewax, then through the filter and into the tank. Ive heard to not soak long, maybe a half hour, with all the butane and material very cold.
 

Flagg420

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I come off harsh and dicklike, but trust me, im always doing it for the others benefit ;)

As I stated at the beginning... I remember the shit I used to make/smoke....

Also, My dispensary lately hasn't seemed to have oil/wax that competes with mine in a while... Quality went down when the rosin/resin hit the mainstream....

The cold temps make the trichs break off/up easier, while preventing the actual organic plant material from breaking down, added bonus, cold butane stays liquid longer, for better extractions... Deep freezer, keep ur trim, ur extractor cylinders, (packed), butane all in the freezer... works wonders.

I am patient, so I vac purge, then winterize with 190 proof everclear, purge again... takes 7-10 days, but its shatter every time, which I prefer....

Its a rabbit hole you can fall in to and spend $5-10k on a professional setup... Or a couple hundred one a smaller simpler one and just add time....
 

J_Blaze23

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I understand, it's definitely something that can kill you and slowly make you sick if not done right. Cannnabis is a passion for me just like I'm sure it is for you, I've spent many hours watching YouTube and reading forums. I care about what I grow that's why I use as close to organic as possible so what I put in me means just as much. I have that $500 list for a BVV setup just need the $ and wanted to see with this method if it would be worth the $. Thing about purge and winterizing I feel like it removes a lot of the smell and taste. The one I didn't whip came out just like shatter it breaks into small pieces, i have to heat it up just to get a dab of it. I see labs doing it the way I did it, it's just slower and more time consuming. I'm here to learn and share knowledge, I'm always open to input. I hope to be doing something with cannabis for a job in my lifetime.
 
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