Hermie? and another weird behavior question

BillyPilgram

BillyPilgram

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I have done due diligence and looked at several other hermie posts and have concluded I have a hermie issue. One plant in particular has peculiar buds. Please take a look and tell me if this is a hermied plant. Yeah, this is bag seed I am using to test my new set up, so it isn't to pretty and I would think hermie prone.

I have noticed a few other strange things.
- The plant that I think is very hermied, I noticed when directly smelling it, it smell more black pepperish. Is that a sign. I think I smoked something that smelled like this a long time ago and it tasted horrible and wasn't potent. Anyone else notice this about hermies?

- I also have many old brown pistols (hairs) and several new ones? Is that common?

- Several of the other younger plants under the same lights (are clones of the suspect hermie) are near 4 weeks into flower and suddenly started growing at the cola - like stretching the cola. The nodes are spread. They have already done their stretch so I know it is not that. Your thoughts?

I did do a nute change, adjusted the time of day when 12/12 started, and defoliated all in the span of 2 days. Could that have been a trigger?

Thanks for your help guys.
 

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macsnax

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Look into the strain "frisian duck". It's a very distinct looking strain. And very similar to what you're plant looks like. And sadly those do look like nanners. Check for pollen sacks, and remove anything that shouldn't be there.
 
BillyPilgram

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Thanks, KryptoBud and Macsnax.
If it revegged, could that mean it is preparing to go Hermie or would that just make the colas longer and less dense or something like that.

Checked out the Frisian Duck. That is an odd bird. No, the leaves on this look thin sativa-like. There are plenty of 3 leaf palms, though.

Could this revegg be from the fluoro lights being to close? I try to hang them and LST so the lights are very close.

Being bagseed, I am not sure how potent the results will be, but being Hermie - does that drastically reduce potentcy?

So, If one is full of pollen sacks, would plucking the sacks do the trick?

Fingers crossed it is revegg and will be OK.
 
chemphlegm

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not sure how it was fertilized, maybe herm, maybe late flower male expression, maybe a boy in the room, or another pollen sack.
those are seed bracts i see, already pollinated.

hermie pollen sucks to smoke.
all weed had seeds for many years, it fine dandy potent.
 
BillyPilgram

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Being bagseed, there were some males caught early on and one in the back that I missed. When I found him there were some open pollen flowers. Just a few, tough. Surprising that it got all over the plant. It is at 8 weeks and some days but mainly clear tricomes.

From the point at which it starts to go milky to 1/3 amber - how long does that take? Is that a set / average time despite the genetics, or will it vary?

Before I give up on it, I will monitor for for bananas and report back. I believe in sharing knowledge / education.

As for the clones with the weird stretch burst, I will monitor those to and report what happens.

Thanks for the input guys.
 
chemphlegm

chemphlegm

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BillyPilgram said:
Being bagseed, there were some males caught early on and one in the back that I missed. When I found him there were some open pollen flowers. Just a few, tough. Surprising that it got all over the plant. It is at 8 weeks and some days but mainly clear tricomes.

From the point at which it starts to go milky to 1/3 amber - how long does that take? Is that a set / average time despite the genetics, or will it vary?

Before I give up on it, I will monitor for for bananas and report back. I believe in sharing knowledge / education.

As for the clones with the weird stretch burst, I will monitor those to and report what happens.

Thanks for the input guys.
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all weed is bag seed, read up. chemdog for instance, found in bag seed. when you buy seeds if you dont purchase
the fem seeds you'll have males too. we flower unknowns and watch closely for signs of fem and boy and kill the boys or seprate at least. I put mine back in veg topped all the way down till later, no rushed decisions here. you never know...

there is no set time to anything here, just provide all the resources correctly and your girl knows exactly what to do with it.
weird stretch burst is called rooted and thriving in veg. in flower its just maturation.
 
I'mBatman

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BillyPilgram said:
Being bagseed, there were some males caught early on and one in the back that I missed. When I found him there were some open pollen flowers. Just a few, tough. Surprising that it got all over the plant. It is at 8 weeks and some days but mainly clear tricomes.

From the point at which it starts to go milky to 1/3 amber - how long does that take? Is that a set / average time despite the genetics, or will it vary?

Before I give up on it, I will monitor for for bananas and report back. I believe in sharing knowledge / education.

As for the clones with the weird stretch burst, I will monitor those to and report what happens.

Thanks for the input guys.
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Clones from a plant that's in flower grow like weed on steroids. Lol
Ass for your pollen sacks, harvest the pollen n use your seeds to do a sea of green. I sprayed stuff on my White Widow in order to create pollen sacks to get female seeds from her.
Yeah, I did that on purpose n it's going to pay off.
Happy growing my friend.
 

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KryptoBud

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BillyPilgram said:
Thanks, KryptoBud and Macsnax.
If it revegged, could that mean it is preparing to go Hermie or would that just make the colas longer and less dense or something like that.

Checked out the Frisian Duck. That is an odd bird. No, the leaves on this look thin sativa-like. There are plenty of 3 leaf palms, though.

Could this revegg be from the fluoro lights being to close? I try to hang them and LST so the lights are very close.

Being bagseed, I am not sure how potent the results will be, but being Hermie - does that drastically reduce potentcy?

So, If one is full of pollen sacks, would plucking the sacks do the trick?

Fingers crossed it is revegg and will be OK.
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Revegging comes from inconsistent light cycles. Once they start to bud if the light cycle increases you get that funky looking growth. It doesn't make them hermie, just grow single bladed leaves and lots of branching.
 
Lip G.

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Hi every one... glad to have found a current thread on this .. I think my one plant micro grow is going hermie ...

Had a bad bout of fungas gnats a few months ago .. and she lost up to about 10 nodes ... kept her in veg a long time about 5 months .. she accidentally got flipped while in the dark as I was away for four days ... the new bud sites got burned by my viparspectra 450 .. life went on ... I washed out the root ball and used Mosquito Dunks for the gnats and it worked amazingly - but took a few treatments.

The spider mites ... Bug B Gone killed them all in their tracks .. no new life 6 weeks later.

Now i am between weeks 6 and 7 of flower . Four days ago I started Grotek Monster Bloom 0-30-50 and she finally started good resin production ... Doubled buds size in four days I"m hoping to take her down in parts as some areas are ready soon, but have taken its second stage of flowering with new white tric's everywhere on top of about 60% amber.

Because of the constant stressors I was afraid that she would need more time to veg and flower.

Now I think I'm seeing some herm tendencies .. would anyone here agree?

Last night I clipped off a tiny new flower, flash dried and cured it (.15 of a gram) and tried it ... surprisingly .. at that tiny amount I got a great medical effect .. very strong surge for the low dose .. I was amazed (I don't use shatters etc but nightly edible before bed .. so that sometimes can make thc consumption more sensitive for me) HOWEVER .. I do know good weed and I'm very into what is gunna come down.

I stupidly increased the light time by half an hour in its morning and night because I read that we can increse light times a bit in flower to prolong flowering, hence better resin production due to her disabilities from her fractured childhood ....

Now I'm afraid I turned her hermie ...

Strictly back on 12/12 and I am tempted to cut her to 11/13 or even 10/14 to snap her out of it....

Will that work?

Am I wrong about her being hermie? I will include some photos of the healthy buds and that of the suspected hermie sites.

Peace and thank GAWD for forums like this to help me get cheap medicine for my canna/med needs.

Happy Thanks Giving to 'Yall .. if you celebrate.

These are my show off pics different lights in a few series of shots .. healthy buds I THINK

Suspected hermie shots next.

I'm a newbie here this is my third micro grow but first with good LED lights and pro nutes.
 

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Lip G.

Lip G.

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And now for the suspected hermies ... btw I am using soil and Gaia Green Power Bloom organic for her entire grow at the advice of my supplies expert.

Sorry .. loads of pics but really would like a definite diagnosis .. at this late in the game should I cut off the hermie parts and save the rest?

Will a good flush? Substantially shorter lights out?

Dutch Master Reverse seems like a shot in the dark.

Any help or comments really apreciated.
 

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Kingrow1

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Lip G. said:
Hi every one... glad to have found a current thread on this .. I think my one plant micro grow is going hermie ...

Had a bad bout of fungas gnats a few months ago .. and she lost up to about 10 nodes ... kept her in veg a long time about 5 months .. she accidentally got flipped while in the dark as I was away for four days ... the new bud sites got burned by my viparspectra 450 .. life went on ... I washed out the root ball and used Mosquito Dunks for the gnats and it worked amazingly - but took a few treatments.

The spider mites ... Bug B Gone killed them all in their tracks .. no new life 6 weeks later.

Now i am between weeks 6 and 7 of flower . Four days ago I started Grotek Monster Bloom 0-30-50 and she finally started good resin production ... Doubled buds size in four days I"m hoping to take her down in parts as some areas are ready soon, but have taken its second stage of flowering with new white tric's everywhere on top of about 60% amber.

Because of the constant stressors I was afraid that she would need more time to veg and flower.

Now I think I'm seeing some herm tendencies .. would anyone here agree?

Last night I clipped off a tiny new flower, flash dried and cured it (.15 of a gram) and tried it ... surprisingly .. at that tiny amount I got a great medical effect .. very strong surge for the low dose .. I was amazed (I don't use shatters etc but nightly edible before bed .. so that sometimes can make thc consumption more sensitive for me) HOWEVER .. I do know good weed and I'm very into what is gunna come down.

I stupidly increased the light time by half an hour in its morning and night because I read that we can increse light times a bit in flower to prolong flowering, hence better resin production due to her disabilities from her fractured childhood ....

Now I'm afraid I turned her hermie ...

Strictly back on 12/12 and I am tempted to cut her to 11/13 or even 10/14 to snap her out of it....

Will that work?

Am I wrong about her being hermie? I will include some photos of the healthy buds and that of the suspected hermie sites.

Peace and thank GAWD for forums like this to help me get cheap medicine for my canna/med needs.

Happy Thanks Giving to 'Yall .. if you celebrate.

These are my show off pics different lights in a few series of shots .. healthy buds I THINK

Suspected hermie shots next.

I'm a newbie here this is my third micro grow but first with good LED lights and pro nutes.
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Ignore and finish plants off, problems will go away when you get better. 12/12 always, do not deviate till you are confident you know what you are doing.

Keep it simple, you will get a harvest :-)
 
Lip G.

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Kingrow1 said:
Ignore and finish plants off, problems will go away when you get better. 12/12 always, do not deviate till you are confident you know what you are doing.

Keep it simple, you will get a harvest :-)
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THANK YOU KINGRO! Comforting words ... I've been doting on this little baby and there has been a CRAP load of work gone into her .. as well as start up $$$

BACK to 12/12 no f'n around ... I did two hack job micro grows before but now have decent gear ... can't see more than 3 or four more weeks to go on her .. but being as I"ve just started the flowering nutes, I want to keep her going for a while .. then perpetural flower ...

As the only plant I have now, would it be bad to attempt perpetual flower, after I've harvested her for this grow? That I believe would be to a) re-veg her, then b) reflower? Or is that a lost cause in her condition .. wasting time and money - when I can start from seed all together?

She's a Black Indica

P.S. Would it help, as my lights have both Bloom and Veg switches on her, could it be helpful if I cut off the veg light and only go with the Red Flower Spectrums?

KEEPING IT SIMPLE, well, simplifies matters .. Ha! but for now, 12/12 (red only?) and another four
 
Lip G.

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Sorry weird keyboard black outs here .. cannot type at times ..

another week of Monster Bloom, Flush, chop the ripe ones and back to fuel her buds till I take it all.

Am I on the right track then?
 
Kingrow1

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Lip G. said:
THANK YOU KINGRO! Comforting words ... I've been doting on this little baby and there has been a CRAP load of work gone into her .. as well as start up $$$

BACK to 12/12 no f'n around ... I did two hack job micro grows before but now have decent gear ... can't see more than 3 or four more weeks to go on her .. but being as I"ve just started the flowering nutes, I want to keep her going for a while .. then perpetural flower ...

As the only plant I have now, would it be bad to attempt perpetual flower, after I've harvested her for this grow? That I believe would be to a) re-veg her, then b) reflower? Or is that a lost cause in her condition .. wasting time and money - when I can start from seed all together?

She's a Black Indica

P.S. Would it help, as my lights have both Bloom and Veg switches on her, could it be helpful if I cut off the veg light and only go with the Red Flower Spectrums?

KEEPING IT SIMPLE, well, simplifies matters .. Ha! but for now, 12/12 (red only?) and another four
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No to re-vegging her, start new seeds as soon as you can or have a veg space or when this finishes, most of us have two tents, one for veg the other for flower. Re veg can be done but more simple to do seeds.

Id say maybe three weeks till harvest if your lucky, four seems a touch too long idk.

Run ferts and light as the plant wants, it shouldnt be that hard to work it out. With plenty of red and blue you will be better than just red but if they are growing dont fuck with them at this stage just keep them nicely ticking along.

For the hermies, i have strongly advocated that this is more new grower error than genetics, it has been discussed that all plants have the genetics to hermie but stress brings them out waaaaay more than a good grow. Three grows, dont take it to heart, this hobby takes time to finesse, what you need is more grows under your belt not messing around trying this and that.

The plants you have with buds look promising, if you can keep them seperate them hermies will yeild some good weed too, seeds are very handy as well.

You'll be fine just keep on doing what you have done so far :-)
 
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