Government claims it owns children, threatens 2nd mom with jail

Singlemalt

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Where does it say "Government claims it owns children"? If the gov't has not asserted an ownership claim, you are being disingenuous. Child endangerment, protection of public health, etc are all in legitimate gov't purview. Indeed, gov't oversteps it's bounds at times but not in this case. I was born in 1950 and grew up seeing kids fucked up from polio and other diseases. Oddly, the only polio victims I've seen in 50 yrs have been roughly my age.
 

chemphlegm

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yes, i am one of those people who believes in science and knows that vaccinations save lives you retarded fuck.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10472327
they contain known carcinogens and cancer causing virus', but hey, its population control like Gates says?

"First, we’ve got population. The world today has 6.8 billion people. That’s headed up to about nine billion. Now, if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that by, perhaps, 10 or 15 percent […].


The polio vaccines developed in the 1950s by Jonas Salk and Albert Sabin allegedly eradicated one of the most feared diseases of the 20th century. The media hailed the success of these vaccines as a modern day miracle. However, the polio story has a much darker side that has mostly been kept a secret.

Both Sabin’s live virus vaccine given orally and Salk’s inactivated virus vaccine given by injection were far from perfect. In fact, in 1955 the vaccine used in Berkley, California infected some 200 children, leaving several dead and many paralyzed. Yet this incident proved minor compared to what was later discovered.

In order to grow large quantities of the poliovirus, scientists needed to use Rhesus monkey kidney cells, which carried many different viruses. As a result, their polio vaccine became contaminated with a cancer-causing virus carried by these monkeys. This vaccine was given to almost 100 million people.

The virus found in this particular polio vaccine was SV40, or simian virus. It is present in human tumors, and research has established it to be a contributing factor in the rise of many types of cancer, including mesothelioma, bone, and brain cancer.

When the government became aware of this, it was downplayed for fear the public would stop accepting vaccination.
 

ANC

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I know from when I took lots of acid words can mean something else depending on your state of mind.
What BG meant by reducing population by vaccination is that in areas where they did not vaccinate, people had many children to compensate for the ones that would die in childhood.
As the population starts reaping the reward of immunization, childhood mortality falls. Women then have fewer children as they are not as likely to die as before.
 

UncleBuck

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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10472327
they contain known carcinogens and cancer causing virus', but hey, its population control like Gates says?

"First, we’ve got population. The world today has 6.8 billion people. That’s headed up to about nine billion. Now, if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that by, perhaps, 10 or 15 percent […].


The polio vaccines developed in the 1950s by Jonas Salk and Albert Sabin allegedly eradicated one of the most feared diseases of the 20th century. The media hailed the success of these vaccines as a modern day miracle. However, the polio story has a much darker side that has mostly been kept a secret.

Both Sabin’s live virus vaccine given orally and Salk’s inactivated virus vaccine given by injection were far from perfect. In fact, in 1955 the vaccine used in Berkley, California infected some 200 children, leaving several dead and many paralyzed. Yet this incident proved minor compared to what was later discovered.

In order to grow large quantities of the poliovirus, scientists needed to use Rhesus monkey kidney cells, which carried many different viruses. As a result, their polio vaccine became contaminated with a cancer-causing virus carried by these monkeys. This vaccine was given to almost 100 million people.

The virus found in this particular polio vaccine was SV40, or simian virus. It is present in human tumors, and research has established it to be a contributing factor in the rise of many types of cancer, including mesothelioma, bone, and brain cancer.

When the government became aware of this, it was downplayed for fear the public would stop accepting vaccination.
oh, cool, a youtube video claiming bill gates is killing kids with vaccines.

well, that settles it.
 

Olive Drab Green

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I know from when I took lots of acid words can mean something else depending on your state of mind.
What BG meant by reducing population by vaccination is that in areas where they did not vaccinate, people had many children to compensate for the ones that would die in childhood.
As the population starts reaping the reward of immunization, childhood mortality falls. Women then have fewer children as they are not as likely to die as before.
I think the point of typical psychedelics (i.e. not entheogens, although they do it, too) is to purge words and ideas/concepts and neural networks created by false association, from your brain. Like, I think it renews and refreshes the unnatural and destructive neural connections of all habits, particularly bad ones, so you can break away from the bullshit concepts that have been thrust upon us by living an unnatural, ego-driven life. It resets your neurochemistry and neurology, and puts you out of your mind in order to come to your senses and to be experience-driven.
 
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chemphlegm

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Bill Gates was always a megalomaniacal machinisitic (new word, I created it) asshole. His philanthropic pursuits only exist because people called him on it in the late ‘80s early ‘90s. I dunno why you find this surprising.
not surprised at all.
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yes, i am one of those people who believes in science and knows that vaccinations save lives you retarded fuck.
 

Olive Drab Green

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not surprised at all.
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I know he gets a lot of shit from people he fucks with, but Buck’s a legit dude. Good heart, civic-minded. I tend to agree with a lot of his ideals (although we differ on Hillary, in particular, but that’s fine) but even if you are totally opposed to his beliefs, I think if people would relinquish their dicks for a minute, I really think all of you would at least see behind that rascally, scoundrel-y, vocal attitude, he legitimately does believe in what’s good for the people.

I also tend to avoid a lot of conspiracy theories. Is the government corrupt? Of course they are, I would know, I used to be “government property.” And especially now! We definitely have the most corrupt administration we’ve had either since LBJ and Nixon and Reagan, but probably even surpassing them in public subversion and oppression. That said, much of the conspiracy theories are bullshit, usually propagandist and intended to prey on fear. Particularly in this era, all right-wing extremist conspiracy theories are simply propaganda meant to push back against the left, center, up, down, and diagonal fpr calling the right on their bullshit.
 

Rob Roy

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I have to say that if a disease is 100% preventable with no legitimate potential adverse reactions, then as much as I disagree with government overregulation, yes. Because it does nothing but improve quality of life, and there is nothing overly invasive about it.

You don't think removing a persons choice to decide what will or won't go into their bodies is invasive ?
 

chemphlegm

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I know he gets a lot of shit from people he fucks with, but Buck’s a legit dude. Good heart, civic-minded. I tend to agree with a lot of his ideals (although we differ on Hillary, in particular, but that’s fine) but even if you are totally opposed to his beliefs, I think if people would relinquish their dicks for a minute, I really think all of you would at least see behind that rascally, scoundrel-y, vocal attitude, he legitimately does believe in what’s good for the people.

I also tend to avoid a lot of conspiracy theories. Is the government corrupt? Of course they are, I would know, I used to be “government property.” And especially now! We definitely have the most corrupt administration we’ve had either since LBJ and Nixon and Reagan, but probably even surpassing them in public subversion and oppression. That said, much of the conspiracy theories are bullshit, usually propagandist and intended to prey on fear. Particularly in this era, all right-wing extremist conspiracy theories are simply propaganda meant to push back against the left, center, up, down, and diagonal fpr calling the right on their bullshit.

I recall any corporate/gubment coverups -before exposed -were thought of as whacko fringe beliefs, until they were not anymore. America has some doozies aye? some went many decades before being reported. some more still to come maybe?
 

Rob Roy

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Where does it say "Government claims it owns children"? If the gov't has not asserted an ownership claim, you are being disingenuous. Child endangerment, protection of public health, etc are all in legitimate gov't purview. Indeed, gov't oversteps it's bounds at times but not in this case. I was born in 1950 and grew up seeing kids fucked up from polio and other diseases. Oddly, the only polio victims I've seen in 50 yrs have been roughly my age.

The dots are self evident, connect them please.
 
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