Democratic Senator, Dick Durban: 'We Should Appeal To The Center'

Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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Chezus said:
Yeah that's why I have quotes from you and the rest of the shitstain Sander supporters saying exactly what I have said.
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So why did you quote this post;

Padawanbater2 said:
I would rather have a legitimate Trump presidency than a stolen Clinton one


Here's an example of Clinton's SuperPAC at work;

https://www.reddit.com/user/iamwithHER2016#page=1

In 4 pages of comments, 'HRC' is posted 189 times. This is one of hundreds, if not thousands of people the Clinton camp has paid to go online and spread misinformation to ensure her victory

I don't support sleazy shit like that just so a candidate I support on social issues can win. You act like that, you lose my vote, and that's how every American who supports democracy should treat it.

I really have to question the mind of someone who will still vote for her after knowing all of this, regardless of who her opponent is. You vote for her and you send the message that this is OK.

I'll be leaving the democratic party for good July 29th, I encourage the rest of you to join me
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In 2 different threads, then delete both of them?
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Chezus said:
Yeah that's why I have quotes from you and the rest of the shitstain Sander supporters saying exactly what I have said.
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I voted for Mrs Clinton in the general, just like Sanders asked us to.

Why she lost anyway is a question you'll have to look elsewhere to find answers for. The fact that you're stuck on this silly ass notion that Sanders backers are too blame- in spite of all the evidence to the contrary- tells me and everyone else following along that you're not interested in facts as much as you just wanna find someone to blame.

That's childish logic, at best. Grow up and open your eyes. Against a monster like the Chump, it should not have even been close. It should have been a straight up landslide. Yet it wasn't. Why?

Where's your answer to THAT?!
 
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Chezus

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ttystikk said:
I voted for Mrs Clinton in the general, just like Sanders asked us to.

Why she lost anyway is a question you'll have to look elsewhere to find answers for. The fact that you're stuck on this silly ass notion that Sanders backers are too blame- in spite of all the evidence to the contrary- tells me and everyone else following along that you're not interested in facts as much as you just wanna find someone to blame.

That's childish logic, at best. Grow up and open your eyes. Against a monster like the Chump, it should not have even been close. It should have been a straight up landslide. Yet it wasn't. Why?

Where's your answer to THAT?!
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You said you would rather stay home than vote for Clinton. You said that.
 
UncleBuck

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ttystikk said:
Right. Those of us who want free and fair elections.

We already know you're cool with your team winning by any means necessary, fair or foul, apartheid supporter. You are out of place in any attempt to claim a moral high ground.
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you don't want fair and free elections, you want caucuses (the least fair and free type of election) because that's the only thing bernie can win.
 
Fogdog

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schuylaar said:
it did..for the poor and working class- its monarchy not so much.
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It didn't end well for the poor and working classes. Yes, it replaced a vile aristocracy but with what? A murderous lawless dictator in Robes Pierre and then Napoleon who took the title of Emperor and wiped out about 40% of military-age men in wars. The country never recovered from the losses. For the remainder of the 19th and most of the 20th century France was at a demographic disadvantage to Germany and England. There is no re-writing history. I agree that the French monarchy had to go, perhaps violence was the only way but I look at the real cost and wonder if the revolution was the only way.

Looking at what happened after the French and Russian Revolution,s I'm kind of disgusted by so-called revolutionaries calling for revolution in the US today. Real killing-war kind of revolution would mean the death of most of our elderly and 10's of millions of others with the end result very much in doubt.

I'm willing to put myself on the line in protest but not willing to sacrifice my parents, my wife or my children or yours. I'd rather we think our way out of today's problems. Things simply aren't bad enough right now to justify the carnage. Especially given the examples of history where, after all the cost was tallied, revolution didn't result in a better government.
 
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abandonconflict

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ttystikk said:
The very fact of Chump in office is the best thing that's happened to the Left in America in my lifetime.
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st0wandgrow said:
So you tell me.... did the black community vote against their own self interests in 2016?
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Padawanbater2 said:
I feel much more is expected of me because of my skin color than other people. I'm white... Same thing with being male.
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^^the alt-left of RIU^^

We don't really hate sanders, just his shit bag supporters.
 
Fogdog

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ttystikk said:
I voted for Mrs Clinton in the general, just like Sanders asked us to.

Why she lost anyway is a question you'll have to look elsewhere to find answers for. The fact that you're stuck on this silly ass notion that Sanders backers are too blame- in spite of all the evidence to the contrary- tells me and everyone else following along that you're not interested in facts as much as you just wanna find someone to blame.

That's childish logic, at best. Grow up and open your eyes. Against a monster like the Chump, it should not have even been close. It should have been a straight up landslide. Yet it wasn't. Why?

Where's your answer to THAT?!
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The answer has two parts, both of which are irrefutable.

!) There is no way of knowing how well Sanders would have done.
2) What you propose is the opposite of democracy. The only way that Sanders could have run against Trump is by a committee reversing the voice of an overwhelmingly large majority of the people of Democratic party.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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UncleBuck said:
you don't want fair and free elections, you want caucuses (the least fair and free type of election) because that's the only thing bernie can win.
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Don't project.

I want free and fair elections. Until Citizens United is repealed- arguably among lots of other laws that permit everything from voter suppression to gerrymandering- we won't have them.
 
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