Democratic Senator, Dick Durban: 'We Should Appeal To The Center'

abandonconflict

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KillerIndica said:
1. I am older than most of you.
2. I am a godless communist, to the left of Floyd, Marx, Engels, Trotsky, Jung, Lenin, Mao, Chou En Lai and Tom Selleck.
3. You can be disappointed with the boomers for what they (we) did, but I was protesting Vietnam at 13, managed to avoid the draft lottery in '72, same year I first voted at 18, the first 18 year olds to EVER vote in the DSA. I have NEVER gotten more religious, conservative or republican. In fact, the only good republican is a DEAD republican. So fuck your ageist bullshit, and fuck you.

Furthermore, unlike you, I have not contributed to the basic problem of homo sapiens: overpopulation. That's right, asshole, #ChildFree and not contributing to the ills of society, unlike you breeders.

Because you have insulted me, I will proceed to burn a full tank of gasoline, today, in order to ensure that tank of gasoline will NOT be available to future generations. I cheer at the deaths of young people (like you) because young people are FUCKING WORTHLESS!!!
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Greetings comrade tankie, Heil Bernard! VIVA Our Revolution™ (No Refunds)!
 
ttystikk

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UncleBuck said:
fucking naive as shit.
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Let's take the last Great Democratic Savior;
1. Right wing healthcare- it was Romney care first
2. Bail out the banks, let millions of homeowners get foreclosed; can't be a lot more right wing than that
3. Undeclared wars around the world, drone strikes in dozens of countries, expanded defense budget. Yep, right wing.
4. Called himself a Reagan moderate and was proud of it.

No wonder your shit won't fly, Buck; you've got two right wings!
 
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Chezus

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ttystikk said:
Let's take the last Great Democratic Savior;
1. Right wing healthcare- it was Romney care first
2. Bail out the banks, let millions of homeowners get foreclosed; not a lot more right wing than that
3. Undeclared wars around the world, drone strikes in dozens of countries, expanded defense budget. Yep, right wing.
4. Called himself a Reagan moderate and was proud of it.

No wonder your shit won't fly, Buck; you've got two right wings!
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Why you complaining? You got what you wanted.
Trump.
 
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Chezus

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ttystikk said:
Triggered. Like a good defense mechanism, it's always there when confronted with facts you don't want to acknowledge.
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Donald Trump
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Floridians Who Wrote in Bernie Sanders or Jokes Got Donald Trump Elected
Tim Elfrink | February 3, 2017 | 8:58am
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Remember way back in November when your most insufferable Facebook friends were insisting there was zero difference between Trump and Clinton? Besides, they cynically insisted, Trump would never do all of that crazy stuff he kept promising! Who cares whom you vote for?

If there's any justice in the world, those same friends have watched in abject horror as Trump has thrown democratic norms out the window, threatened allies and enemies alike on Twitter, and generally sowed world chaos in his first two weeks as president. Now evidence suggests that people like them played a big role in putting Trump in the White House
 
UncleBuck

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ttystikk said:
Let's take the last Great Democratic Savior;
1. Right wing healthcare- it was Romney care first
2. Bail out the banks, let millions of homeowners get foreclosed; not a lot more right wing than that
3. Undeclared wars around the world, drone strikes in dozens of countries, expanded defense budget. Yep, right wing.
4. Called himself a Reagan moderate and was proud of it.

No wonder your shit won't fly, Buck; you've got two right wings!
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and republicans opposed all of that non-comprehensive list.

so much for being the exact same.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Chezus said:

Donald Trump
Photo by Gage Skidmore / Flickr
Floridians Who Wrote in Bernie Sanders or Jokes Got Donald Trump Elected
Tim Elfrink | February 3, 2017 | 8:58am
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Remember way back in November when your most insufferable Facebook friends were insisting there was zero difference between Trump and Clinton? Besides, they cynically insisted, Trump would never do all of that crazy stuff he kept promising! Who cares whom you vote for?

If there's any justice in the world, those same friends have watched in abject horror as Trump has thrown democratic norms out the window, threatened allies and enemies alike on Twitter, and generally sowed world chaos in his first two weeks as president. Now evidence suggests that people like them played a big role in putting Trump in the White House
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Strawman.

I voted for Clinton.

Against the Chump, why was it ever even close? I've asked you this half a dozen times and you've never ventured an answer.

My answer is, 'because there's no significant difference between the two parties'. You haven't attempted to refute this, either.

Blame your own party for losing.
 
Fogdog

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ttystikk said:
Strawman.

I voted for Clinton.

Against the Chump, why was it ever even close? I've asked you this half a dozen times and you've never ventured an answer.

My answer is, 'because there's no significant difference between the two parties'. You haven't attempted to refute this, either.

Blame your own party for losing.
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Why is the Democratic Party to blame for winning the popular vote by a spanking large margin? The election turned on a few thousand votes in a few key states.

As for why was it even close, the answers have nothing to do with economic issues or "corporate corruption" or no difference, which is clearly not true. It was racism and sexism and the natural advantage gained by the party out of power at the end of a two term presidency, pretty much. This is well documented and has been discussed here. I'm surprised you didn't know it.
 
ttystikk

ttystikk

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Fogdog said:
Why is the Democratic Party to blame for winning the popular vote by a spanking large margin? The election turned on a few thousand votes in a few key states.

As for why was it even close, the answers have nothing to do with economic issues or "corporate corruption" or no difference, which is clearly not true. It was racism and sexism and the natural advantage gained by the party out of power at the end of a two term presidency, pretty much. This is well documented and has been discussed here. I'm surprised you didn't know it.
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Your opinion.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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ttystikk said:
Your opinion.
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Nope, this is fact. It is well documented and has been discussed here before, with links to very good studies on this subject. Trump won mainly on the racist and sexist vote and there is always an advantage to the party out of power at the end of a two term presidency. I'm repeating very well documented facts.
 
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