Democratic Senator, Dick Durban: 'We Should Appeal To The Center'

[abandonconflict]

So since bernouts are so progressive, why do so many of you make such blatantly bigoted remarks, despise idpol, never call out racism and then turn around and support Donald Trump?

 

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Christine Pellegrino
Randall Woodfin

You seem to agree with Senator Durbin, the Democratic party needs to shift towards the center in order to win elections. Correct me if I'm wrong..

But where is the logic in trying to win back Republican/conservative voters by being more centrist, when they can just vote for the Republican?

Where is the winning strategy?

You should consider reading, The Art of War.

 

[UncleBuck]

There have been entire threads devoted to answering those questions. You choose not to quote/cite them because they destroy your nonsense premise out of the gate.

This post of yours further proves that point. So, thanks for playing.

You can't stick to substance because substance proves your lies

You wouldn't have to lie if what you said held any truth


So keep talking. The more you talk, the more you expose yourself. Everything you say can be subjectively verified

you wasted all that effort making accusations when you could have just explained why me quoting your entire post, along with the post you were responding to, was somehow "taking things out of context".

how is it possible for me to take anything out of context when i quoted your entire post as well as the post you were responding to?

i literally screenshotted all context to you questioning the legitimacy of a sexual assault.

 

[UncleBuck]

he sold a progressive message on healthcare..

the progressive message on healthcare was to do romneycare, a heritage foundation idea?

why do you never have any facts whatsoever on your side, padaraper?

 

[ttystikk]

You should consider reading, The Art of War.

Indeed. 'Learn the true nature of the battlefield and use it to your advantage.'

Or better yet, 'choose to fight only on the battlefield that gives you the advantage.'

 

[abandonconflict]

"give us Bernie or we'll give you Trump"

 

[ttystikk]

"give us Bernie or we'll give you Trump"

Did it ever occur to you to blame Trump on those who actually voted for him?

I thought not.

 

[abandonconflict]

"Trump is the best thing to happen for the left in my life." ~Shytstikk

 

[UncleBuck]

blame Trump on those who actually voted for him

hmmmm, you liked this comment blaming trump on hillary 2 days ago.




you need to make up your mind.

 

[ttystikk]

hmmmm, you liked this comment blaming trump on hillary 2 days ago.

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you need to make up your mind.

Both can be true. Trump wouldn't have been elected without millions of voters. Hillary failed to unseat him because she couldn't muster the necessary votes in enough States.

But keep fighting the last war.

 

[UncleBuck]

Both can be true. Trump wouldn't have been elected without millions of voters. Hillary failed to unseat him because she couldn't muster the necessary votes in enough States.

But keep fighting the last war.

i have my cake but i also get to eat it too.

 

[ttystikk]

i have my cake but i also get to eat it too.

In this case, it would seem...

But it's not my cake.

I'll take a slice of Bernie 2020, thanks!

 

[abandonconflict]

"Trump is the best thing to happen for the left in my life." ~Shytstikk

Must be nice not to have to worry about the repeal of DACA, or higher health care rates or a ban on Muslim travelers. Maybe you think the tax cuts for the richest is good for the left too...

Yeah, better if broke millennials get off their asses like you suggest.

 

[ttystikk]

"Trump is the best thing to happen for the left in my life." ~Shytstikk

Must be nice not to have to worry about the repeal of DACA, or higher health care rates or a ban on Muslim travelers. Maybe you think the tax cuts for the richest is good for the left too...

Yeah, better if broke millennials get off their asses like you suggest.

It is precisely because of these reprehensible proposals that the Progressive Left has finally bestirred itself and decided to get involved in politics.

But your terminal failure of the imagination would have you blame the observer instead.

 

[abandonconflict]

There were over a quarter of a million protesters in Manhattan occupying wall street. Not to mention the rest of the major cities we occupied in the tens of thousands.

There were over a hundred thousand veterans protesting the GOP convention in 2008.

BLM is a thing also, in case you never heard.

That is just the past few years that I have been organizing and active. Just so you know why I take issue with your bullshit.

Following a liberal populist and sitting in your hot tub, you're a new guy to the left.

 

[tangerinegreen555]

In this case, it would seem...

But it's not my cake.

I'll take a slice of Bernie 2020, thanks!

79 year old 'slices'?

Maybe check the SS actuarial charts before you commit. You're looking for an 8 year run, right?


https://www.ssa.gov/oact/STATS/table4c6.html

 

[ttystikk]

79 year old 'slices'?

Maybe check the SS actuarial charts before you commit. You're looking for an 8 year run, right?


https://www.ssa.gov/oact/STATS/table4c6.html

Yet you never blink at Mrs Clinton's or Joe Biden's age. Just a wee bit hypocritical?

 

[tangerinegreen555]

Yet you never blink at Mrs Clinton's or Joe Biden's age. Just a wee bit hypocritical?

Well, they aren't going to be 79 in 2020.

And Mrs. Clinton is out of the mix.

Personally, I would prefer a younger candidate. But it's you guys who act as though (again) Bernie is the only hope.


I voted for him in the primary at 75.

79 seems like forcing him to die in office.
Ever notice how the last few aged in office? Tell me that job doesn't take something out of you.

Exception: Trump. Who doesn't give a fuck about truth or anything else.

 

[Huckster79]

This is exactly the time to debate and argue.

I’m all for that- but it needs to be clean forward looking debate with the goal of eventually unity, or mutually respected disagreements- not just both sides within the left blaming the other, that’s what I’m trying to say. Debate is never wrong but blaming from either side is not debate, it’s a distraction from our ultimate goal of removing Trump and his minions from office...

 

[Fogdog]

I’m all for that- but it needs to be clean forward looking debate with the goal of eventually unity, or mutually respected disagreements- not just both sides within the left blaming the other, that’s what I’m trying to say. Debate is never wrong but blaming from either side is not debate, it’s a distraction from our ultimate goal of removing Trump and his minions from office...

We will pull together when the time comes or I'm underestimating these people. Not everybody, but most.
I've said already, given a choice between Sanders and anybody who would call themselves a Republican presidential candidate, I'd pull the lever for Sanders.so fast that people would hear a sonic boom.

Tell me, should I not comment on the Clinton thing when it comes up? The argument usually pertains to the lie that corrupt Democrats stole the election from Sanders. Should I not object and allow this lie to remain unanswered?