HydroRed
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What has your or is your current grow like? That should have been the first clue as to what things would be like scale up.
What to buy ?
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Greenfella1
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Oh no doubt man, I'm just saying ... you don't understand the reading I have done . I have read 5x5 for a 1000w and 4x4 and I have read SOG and SCROG, and so much shit that I can talk about what I have read all day . Unfortunately a lot of these threads have new guys like me with unrealistic expectations , the difference is I'll listen and apply what is learned and passed along to me . I want 20lbs a month , I can't get it with what I'm putting in... so what can I get ? I want a perpetual harvest for sure 100% that's what I want to do , and I want say a min of 7 lbs a month . Is this feasible ? How do I get there ? While I chat with you I'm reading about lighting and KwH. Help me with the details to the best of your knowledge , give me a reading list to focus on what I want .
chronichaze
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Reach for the stars!!!
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Greenfella1
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I'm not sure what you meant to type . My first and only grow was 9 supposedly gorilla glue seeds , germinated inside , put into solo cups outside for a week and then inside under two 150 watt or 300 watt MARs hydro led lights and one 1000watt shit Chinese led I honestly don't know what size the MARs hydros were . They were all shit , took them outdoors and didn't touch them until last week when I harvested and they were pretty decent for all the stress and shit conditions. Maybe an oz per plant . I didn't weigh it after it dried .
Greenfella1
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Thanks for the help
chronichaze
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My bad, I wasn’t trying to be a dick. I just said something to sub it. I wish I could help, but I have never had any setup close to that size.
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Greenfella1
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I haven't had one either , but at the end of the day I have to try . If I can't hit 20lbs ok , I still want to maximize yield on a monthly perpetual harvest that's my end goal ... monthly harvest as much yield as possible .
HydroRed
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ok, I wouldn't go any further than that for now. I'd suggest getting a few successful harvests under your belt. If you cant shine on a small grow, your definitely gonna have troubles on one 10 times the size,cost,etc. Just be realistic with your capabilities, and progress on them. When you are slamming out smaller tent grows on a 4 week perpetual with different strains like its cake,... then it might be time to go bigger. Gotta walk before you can run.
Greenfella1
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In all honesty I didn't buy any of that and it was just me throwing some seeds to reap some weeds .... I just wanted to see if I could keep the plants alive and diagnose any problems that came up . I'm putting all my time and money into this and I'm fine starting small , but I wanna cover my electric usage at a minimum and I would like to for sure harvest monthly . Can you help me at a minimum get a 4 week perpetual harvest going ? I'm thinking I'm going to buy 1 T5 , 1x400 watt MH. 3-4 X1,000 watt MH. 3-4 x 1,000 watt HPS . zenhydro is where I am getting them it won't let me post link .
Also I have been looking at soil and soilless mixtures , I have the 6" fans and duct work and air conditioners and I am buying a dehumidifier and some gas heaters which should help with C02. I'm thinking of having three rooms and setting it up where the air in each room is exchanged every 60-90 seconds , two fans in each room vented outside . I have the time to be in there for 8 hrs a day 7 days a week if necessary .
chronichaze
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I would look into the electrical to see what your working with. Eventually you will probably need an upgrade depending on what you end up with. I would rather do that first before you have a setup and become limited. There is a lot of things to look at beforehand. Little problems you could run into. Better to be prepared.
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Greenfella1
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What do you mean look into the electrical ? As in having two meter bases with 200 amp mains in both ?
chronichaze
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As long as you know what your working with. That sounds more then enough. I am in the process of starting from scratch in my new house and I am planning my rooms I am going to build. Just trying to brainstorm
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Roger A. Shrubber
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its kind of pointless to try to up your co2 AND vent the room. if you run co2, you run a sealed room.
Greenfella1
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But I have to heat it when it is 40 Fahrenheit outside right ? I want my temps in my room to be between 75-85 Fahrenheit day maybe 82 during the day and 75 at night ?
Greenfella1
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I'm doing it for heat , but the extra Co2 can't hurt right ?
Roger A. Shrubber
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yeah, but a lot of heat will be coming off of your lights, if you go with all you're talking about, you won't have to run much in the way of extra heating.
anywhere between 85 and 65 is ok, you can drop lower if you have a strain that changes color, drop down into the mid 50s for a few nights, then into the lower 60s for a while and it helps bring out a lot of color.
anywhere between 85 and 65 is ok, you can drop lower if you have a strain that changes color, drop down into the mid 50s for a few nights, then into the lower 60s for a while and it helps bring out a lot of color.
Greenfella1
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I have read that about color , however I have read that the larger the difference between daytime and nighttime temps causing the internodal spacing to be larger than if you maintained the temp or had a negative DIF , where daytime temps were cooler than nighttime temps for the first two hrs of day time and this will retard the elongation of internodal spacing causing your plant to grow more compact and dense buds .
Roger A. Shrubber
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another thing to think about for a perpetual is...where you gettin your next plant?
you can either clone or buy seeds. there are advantages and disadvantages to both.
with cloning, you know what you're getting, and can run multiple mothers if you want, so you can have a little variety.
you have to decide which method you want to use to clone, bubble cloners, aero cloners, rapid rooters.....
if you go with seeds, you have to have a reliable source. there are quite a few decent seedbanks out there, herbies, the vault, seedsman....a lot of others, but you have to cough up the dough, and wait on pins and needles to see if customs let it through, or if you'll get that "bad boy, stop it" letter instead of your beans. that doesn't happen often, but it does occur from time to time.
you can either clone or buy seeds. there are advantages and disadvantages to both.
with cloning, you know what you're getting, and can run multiple mothers if you want, so you can have a little variety.
you have to decide which method you want to use to clone, bubble cloners, aero cloners, rapid rooters.....
if you go with seeds, you have to have a reliable source. there are quite a few decent seedbanks out there, herbies, the vault, seedsman....a lot of others, but you have to cough up the dough, and wait on pins and needles to see if customs let it through, or if you'll get that "bad boy, stop it" letter instead of your beans. that doesn't happen often, but it does occur from time to time.
Roger A. Shrubber
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yeah, that will work that way, but thats not necessarily what you want, its all strain dependent. slowing down a crazy stretching sativa dominant is good, slowing down a barely stretching kush bush indica dominant strain may not be quite as good an idea
also, i'm not convinced about the "more compact and dense buds" thing... i don't want "compact" buds....
i want "expansive" buds....dense is good, big and dense is better
also, i'm not convinced about the "more compact and dense buds" thing... i don't want "compact" buds....
i want "expansive" buds....dense is good, big and dense is better
Greenfella1
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I plan to purchase from seedsman . I also plan to have 6-8 mothers . 3 different strains
I plan to use clonex and use a clone dome with a T5 .