GH Kool Bloom - how to use it for best results?

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DemontauruS

Active Member
Do you use Kool Bloom on top of your regular Flora series (FloraGrow, Micro, and Bloom), or do you replace the FloraBloom with KoolBloom (I usually use the GH recommended lvls per the chart on the bottles).

But I haven't for the life of me found formulation recommendations on the right way to use KoolBloom and when...

I just changed over to 12/12 to sex the plants. Looks like they're all fem, and I'm 1 week into the 12/12 now.

ADVICE?

PS - growing in a bubbleponic - hydro / LED setup
 
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Indicakat

Member
On my box it says to start using during week 5 early bloom, 2 ml per gallon for drain to waste, soil, coiled, hydro, then keep it the same to week 9 going to 2.5 ml per gallon then stop around week 11 before ripen, I have a chart I'll copy and paste for you with all directions and ppm levels, let me. Find it and I'll post back!
 
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Indicakat

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If you go to general hydro site, they give you the feeding schedule for all growths. Just look at flora series and then go to feeding schedules, I don't know why it won't let me copy and paste, but it is all there for you, happy gardening my friend!
 
FuckJeffGoldbloom

FuckJeffGoldbloom

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For liquid koolbloom start at 1ml per gallon at week 3 of 12/12, any earlier is to much i have seen, and rase the amount until you feel fit. Stop your last 2 weeks, move to koolbloom power, yes they are two totally diff things, the powder is very very concentrate so be very very easy with it.

FJG
 
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Mithrandir420

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I use 5ml per gallon in flower in addition to the GH 3 part. At week 5 or 6 I also hit them with the KB powder. I drop the base nutes when I do this.
 
nameno

nameno

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I been wondering about the liquid,I have been using the powder & love it. The guy @ the hydro store & like
always he's for it.I only use the powder the last 3 weeks & it swells the buds up till they look like my donkey.
I use it along with everything else.
Let's hear from some liquid users? I use bubble bucket to.
 
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j onone

New Member
nameno said:
I been wondering about the liquid,I have been using the powder & love it. The guy @ the hydro store & like
always he's for it.I only use the powder the last 3 weeks & it swells the buds up till they look like my donkey.
I use it along with everything else.
Let's hear from some liquid users? I use bubble bucket to.
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Do any of u guys have a mixture. I recently got some bubble gum tht is supposed to b 45day flower anyone know how i should change my formula I use all gh nutes any help would b awesome
 
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az2000

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Mithrandir420 said:
I use 5ml per gallon in flower in addition to the GH 3 part. At week 5 or 6 I also hit them with the KB powder. I drop the base nutes when I do this.
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I'm using GH Flora Series with Pro-Mix soiless. I've been following the "Useless" schedule (which is a modified 3-2-1 as given by GH. It's a little hotter than running GH's schedule at half-strength, which is what most people seem to do. I had a little nute burn two waterings ago. The watering before that I got the impression I had nitrogen toxicity. I backed down to 1/2 of GH's 3-2-1 and will move back up a little next watering.).

I'm preparing for 12/12 flower and have decided to use Koolbloom. Can you elaborate on:

1. The strength of your base nutes?
2. How much you reduce them for Koolbloom?
3. Do you reduce for both liquid and powder?
4. And, how much powder do you use?
5. Are you running hydro recirculating, drain to waste, dirt?

Your answers would really help me out. Thanks!
 
jason1976

jason1976

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been using both for some years now, when you stop using the liquid start using the powder. one is for bulking as stated on the package , the other for ripening as stated on the package. I believe its a half ts per gallon but I do know if you over do it it will screw it up. go light with the powder and never more thqan 5 ml of liquid per gallon.
 
thamadfarmer31

thamadfarmer31

Member
I recently moved my ladies to 12/12 & I'm using gh floranova bloom, I also have liquid koolbloom & the powder.I was told that the liquid is to be used @ the beginning of 12/12, so I plan on waiting a week before I start using liquid koolbloom,@2.5 ml per gallon, up until week 5, then switch to the powder from week 6-8.I'm growing in coco, hand water with about 25% run off.peace!
 
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Mithrandir420

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az2000 said:
I'm using GH Flora Series with Pro-Mix soiless. I've been following the "Useless" schedule (which is a modified 3-2-1 as given by GH. It's a little hotter than running GH's schedule at half-strength, which is what most people seem to do. I had a little nute burn two waterings ago. The watering before that I got the impression I had nitrogen toxicity. I backed down to 1/2 of GH's 3-2-1 and will move back up a little next watering.).

I'm preparing for 12/12 flower and have decided to use Koolbloom. Can you elaborate on:

1. The strength of your base nutes?
2. How much you reduce them for Koolbloom?
3. Do you reduce for both liquid and powder?
4. And, how much powder do you use?
5. Are you running hydro recirculating, drain to waste, dirt?

Your answers would really help me out. Thanks!
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I missed this but since the thread has already been necro'd....

I use the Useless formula. No reduction for KB liquid. Half reduction for KB powder.

F & D trays. hydroton.
 
weedemart

weedemart

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KB liquid and KB dry is the same salt except liquid KB contain humic extract , vitamin and more potassium sulphate.ur base nutes already contain these salts in the right ratio.

The only times i could use KB : after switching to 12/12 , with my ''veg'' nutes, to gradually increase my EC without stressing my plants before switching to ''bloom'' nutes.

for example : switching from a 3-1-2 ratio to 1-3-2 ratio is radical for plants metabolism IMO. so adding some PK to 3-1-2 can be beneficial ,at the right time(transtion), to reduce the stress of plants and induce flower before switching to a full strenght bloom regimen.

In ur case,KB is useless, cuz you use 3 part gh so ur PK booster is BLOOM part
 
kristoffolese

kristoffolese

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weedemart said:
KB liquid and KB dry is the same salt except liquid KB contain humic extract , vitamin and more potassium sulphate.ur base nutes already contain these salts in the right ratio.

The only times i could use KB : after switching to 12/12 , with my ''veg'' nutes, to gradually increase my EC without stressing my plants before switching to ''bloom'' nutes.

for example : switching from a 3-1-2 ratio to 1-3-2 ratio is radical for plants metabolism IMO. so adding some PK to 3-1-2 can be beneficial ,at the right time(transtion), to reduce the stress of plants and induce flower before switching to a full strenght bloom regimen.

In ur case,KB is useless, cuz you use 3 part gh so ur PK booster is BLOOM part
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So, the liquid and dry Koolbloom are the same... except for several things that are different? Lol
 
kristoffolese

kristoffolese

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kristoffolese said:
So, the liquid and dry Koolbloom are the same... except for several things that are different? Lol
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Wouldn't that mean GH Grow is "the same" as GH Bloom? Same salts, Nitrogen, Phosphorous & Pottasium right? Wrong. If they were the "same" you could swap either out for the other. Not a huge fan of GH... but its does work, it's cheap & found everywhere. Hearing ppl say to use Koolbloom immediately upon entering 12/12. Bad idea. There's a reason GH warns against this. Your plants don't need/want it until they're ACTUALLY flowering... not transitioning under 12/12 lighting. Did from strain to strain, but especially with 12+ week sativas, do NOT give Koolbloom until you actually start to SEE flowers. You'll fry& shock em, otherwise. And at the worst possible time. You want uninhibited, full powered, healthy, stretching growth when you switch to 12/12. Don't do anything to stunt your plants at this critical stage. Veg lays the foundation for how much bud a given plant will produce. Think of your 1st week in flower as an extension of veg. When you do start adding the Koolbloom, start at 50% rec dosage. Less with finicky or slower growing strains. Bump it up 10% each week until you start seeing burnt leaf tips... then give a properly ph'd, pure water flush next (can still add mollasses if you're using it), and drop the Koolbloom back down to the last "non-burning" dosage. Through experience, I learned to start at 50% strength in week 2 of flower, increasing to 70% by week 4, and that's as high as it goes. The dry Koolbloom I keep at 50% - VERY bad to over use the dry. It's a ripening agent, and unless you have waaay heavier feeders than I've had, it will cook your girls to a crisp if you use the full recommended amount. To be clear - the liquid and dry Koolbloom do work well. But less, is DEFINITELY more, so don't go crazy with it. Also want to add - once you feel comfortable with the GH flora line - I recommend upgrading to something like Cyco Platinum's basic lineup (just like Advanced Nutrients & most others, Cyco has several products that just aren't needed or worth the cost), Grow More's "Mendocino" lineup is an excellent & inexpensive option, too. If you're interested in this sort of thing, when used properly (not too early!) their flower hardener is the best on the market, imo (Mendocino Avalanche).
But the best cannabis nutrients I've ever tried I my life, that flat out SHAMED every other nutrient line by comparison, is Coots organic soil recipe :D Takes more work to get going with it... def a pain for the apt grower. But I have NEVER - before or since- seen my plants respond better than they do in a properly cured Coots mix, no till soil. In nearly every way, I prefer it to ANY bottled nutes. They finish better than they ever have (quality-wise)with zero deficiency/toxicity issues, and once you have your soil mixed, it gets better and better and better with each grow. No need to buy more nutes... just a small amount of soil amendments added between crops :) SO much easier to take care of once you get going. Just adding water, throughout. All my most potent stress cabbage has been grown this way... even had a indoor/greenhouse comparison grow that ASTOUNDED us, at how much more noticeably tasty & potent the greenhouse clones in Coots Mix were, than the indoor clones grown in soil with synthetic nutes. Buuut... it IS a bitch to do in an apt, so... *sigh* I'm back on the bottled nutes for now :p
 
rkymtnman

rkymtnman

Well-Known Member
kristoffolese said:
Wouldn't that mean GH Grow is "the same" as GH Bloom? Same salts, Nitrogen, Phosphorous & Pottasium right? Wrong. If they were the "same" you could swap either out for the other. Not a huge fan of GH... but its does work, it's cheap & found everywhere. Hearing ppl say to use Koolbloom immediately upon entering 12/12. Bad idea. There's a reason GH warns against this. Your plants don't need/want it until they're ACTUALLY flowering... not transitioning under 12/12 lighting. Did from strain to strain, but especially with 12+ week sativas, do NOT give Koolbloom until you actually start to SEE flowers. You'll fry& shock em, otherwise. And at the worst possible time. You want uninhibited, full powered, healthy, stretching growth when you switch to 12/12. Don't do anything to stunt your plants at this critical stage. Veg lays the foundation for how much bud a given plant will produce. Think of your 1st week in flower as an extension of veg. When you do start adding the Koolbloom, start at 50% rec dosage. Less with finicky or slower growing strains. Bump it up 10% each week until you start seeing burnt leaf tips... then give a properly ph'd, pure water flush next (can still add mollasses if you're using it), and drop the Koolbloom back down to the last "non-burning" dosage. Through experience, I learned to start at 50% strength in week 2 of flower, increasing to 70% by week 4, and that's as high as it goes. The dry Koolbloom I keep at 50% - VERY bad to over use the dry. It's a ripening agent, and unless you have waaay heavier feeders than I've had, it will cook your girls to a crisp if you use the full recommended amount. To be clear - the liquid and dry Koolbloom do work well. But less, is DEFINITELY more, so don't go crazy with it. Also want to add - once you feel comfortable with the GH flora line - I recommend upgrading to something like Cyco Platinum's basic lineup (just like Advanced Nutrients & most others, Cyco has several products that just aren't needed or worth the cost), Grow More's "Mendocino" lineup is an excellent & inexpensive option, too. If you're interested in this sort of thing, when used properly (not too early!) their flower hardener is the best on the market, imo (Mendocino Avalanche).
But the best cannabis nutrients I've ever tried I my life, that flat out SHAMED every other nutrient line by comparison, is Coots organic soil recipe :D Takes more work to get going with it... def a pain for the apt grower. But I have NEVER - before or since- seen my plants respond better than they do in a properly cured Coots mix, no till soil. In nearly every way, I prefer it to ANY bottled nutes. They finish better than they ever have (quality-wise)with zero deficiency/toxicity issues, and once you have your soil mixed, it gets better and better and better with each grow. No need to buy more nutes... just a small amount of soil amendments added between crops :) SO much easier to take care of once you get going. Just adding water, throughout. All my most potent stress cabbage has been grown this way... even had a indoor/greenhouse comparison grow that ASTOUNDED us, at how much more noticeably tasty & potent the greenhouse clones in Coots Mix were, than the indoor clones grown in soil with synthetic nutes. Buuut... it IS a bitch to do in an apt, so... *sigh* I'm back on the bottled nutes for now :p
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just so you know, this thread is from 2014. most probabaly aren't around anymore
 
BlueBlazer00

BlueBlazer00

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do I use the dry KoolBloom the last 3 weeks of flower before I begin to flush? or do I use the powder while
flushing ?
 
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