SIP thread -- (Sub-Irrigated Planter)

Tim Fox

Tim Fox

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I take the easy road and dump the old soil in my wife's garden , but now we are building raised beds so it's perfect for that but re amending and replanting is so good
 
Lightgreen2k

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Tim Fox said:
i swear i need a bigger garage,,, nice organization,, i have a buddy who is into that 3D printing,, do you enjoy it,, have you made anything cool?,,, huge sip man,, cant wait to see it full of plants
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3d printer is good for nick nacks and small visual ideas. Made nothing cool for real.

I Just want it to work properly and taking my time with this too.

With a Sip this large Im wondeing if I should build a trench or ammend the soil.
 
Tim Fox

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Lightgreen2k said:
3d printer is good for nick nacks and small visual ideas. Made nothing cool for real.

I Just want it to work properly and taking my time with this too.

With a Sip this large Im wondeing if I should build a trench or ammend the soil.
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Yes i would do either, a sip that big your going to need some good dry nutes , plenty of ways to go , bagged stuff or buildasoil or your own creation ,
 
Lightgreen2k

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Tim Fox said:
Yes i would do either, a sip that big your going to need some good dry nutes , plenty of ways to go , bagged stuff or buildasoil or your own creation ,
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Jeremey at buildasoil should be on this forum. This the largest sip thread from time.

I plan to get somestuff from Bas and a couple of other places.

Still thinking if i should put

9 or 12 or 16 plants in this planter. Think of it like this, the planter it's self can hold a total volume of 100 gallons. I'm going for 80 gallons with room for the top and mulch.

80 ÷ 16 = 5 gallons of soil per plant about. However its in a bed so it is really more.

I might even go 90 gallons of soil come to think of it..
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Tim Fox

Tim Fox

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Lightgreen2k said:
Jeremey at buildasoil should be on this forum. This the largest sip thread from time.

I plan to get somestuff from Bas and a couple of other places.

Still thinking if i should put

9 or 12 or 16 plants in this planter. Think of it like this, the planter it's self can hold a total volume of 100 gallons. I'm going for 80 gallons with room for the top and mulch.

80 ÷ 16 = 5 gallons of soil per plant about. However its in a bed so it is really more.

I might even go 90 gallons of soil come to think of it..
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Is your sip going to be in the middle of a room so you can walk around it and access the back side? These things grow monsters, and lots of sucker limbs , you will need lots of access
 
Humanrob

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Lightgreen2k said:
I might even go 90 gallons of soil come to think of it..
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Have you calculated the total weight of this project? First, you have to remember that you are going to drench the soil, and that through wicking it is going to stay pretty wet (at least the bottom 2/3's of the container, and then varying degrees dryer above that). I'm not sure what a "gallon" of wet soil weighs, water is 8.43lbs/gallon, and I think wet soil is denser than water alone so I imagine it would weigh even more. But as an example, at 8lbs per gallon 90 gallons of WET soil is 720lbs. And that does not include the weight of your res. That is a lot of structural force to be working with -- pushing both down and out. I don't doubt your ingenuity or ability to fabricate things, I just hope your engineering background is taking this all into account. Even if I'm off by a large factor, at half that weight -- 360lbs. -- that's a force to be reckoned with.
 
Lightgreen2k

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Tim Fox said:
Is your sip going to be in the middle of a room so you can walk around it and access the back side? These things grow monsters, and lots of sucker limbs , you will need lots of access
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I will have access to the sides of sip and front.

Still tinkering a bit.

I will say this, I have been training my plants in 3 gallons /lst / topping/ perhaps 15 inches.
I know this system will grow trees (redwood) huge.. So i have a two tier tellis system set up. Also I have 10 foot ceilings..
 
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Lightgreen2k

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Humanrob said:
Have you calculated the total weight of this project? First, you have to remember that you are going to drench the soil, and that through wicking it is going to stay pretty wet (at least the bottom 2/3's of the container, and then varying degrees dryer above that). I'm not sure what a "gallon" of wet soil weighs, water is 8.43lbs/gallon, and I think wet soil is denser than water alone so I imagine it would weigh even more. But as an example, at 8lbs per gallon 90 gallons of WET soil is 720lbs. And that does not include the weight of your res. That is a lot of structural force to be working with -- pushing both down and out. I don't doubt your ingenuity or ability to fabricate things, I just hope your engineering background is taking this all into account. Even if I'm off by a large factor, at half that weight -- 360lbs. -- that's a force to be reckoned with.
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Thanks for that.

Few things the planter fits on top of the ress. At worst even if it where to sink in, it would act as a big saucer.

However the growstone act like "lava rocks" and fill up a space densely.

Second water adds bouyancy.

Last I can just set it up as a normal raised bed.

So even before buildasoil was uploading videos him and I had been in contact.

Here is an idea of my end product, we both have used similar calculations (minor things switched here and there).

https://www.instagram.com/p/BZi-rL9HdZV/

Tell me what you think..
 
Humanrob

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Lightgreen2k said:
Thanks for that.

Few things the planter fits on top of the ress. At worst even if it where to sink in, it would act as a big saucer.

However the growstone act like "lava rocks" and fill up a space densely.

Second water adds bouyancy.

Last I can just set it up as a normal raised bed.

So even before buildasoil was uploading videos him and I had been in contact.

Here is an idea of my end product, we both have used similar calculations (minor things switched here and there).

https://www.instagram.com/p/BZi-rL9HdZV/

Tell me what you think..
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Cool, nice to see it's been through a proof of concept. Looks like you have it figured out, I'm still looking forward to seeing it in action. :)
 
Tim Fox

Tim Fox

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Lightgreen2k said:
Thanks for that.

Few things the planter fits on top of the ress. At worst even if it where to sink in, it would act as a big saucer.

However the growstone act like "lava rocks" and fill up a space densely.

Second water adds bouyancy.

Last I can just set it up as a normal raised bed.

So even before buildasoil was uploading videos him and I had been in contact.

Here is an idea of my end product, we both have used similar calculations (minor things switched here and there).

https://www.instagram.com/p/BZi-rL9HdZV/

Tell me what you think..
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I watched the video in the link cool Man
 
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