Another mass shooting.

Unclebaldrick

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And?

What exactly do you want? The guy broke the law to get that gun. More laws wouldn't have worked.

He very well could have rented a truck. Didn't something like that just happen?
No, he didn't break the law. He applied and a gun was sold to him. Oh, you mean because he shot people. So ok, yeah, he did break the law.

Fuck laws. Why have them? Just give everyone a gun. More guns means more safety.
 

whitebb2727

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No, he didn't break the law. He applied and a gun was sold to him. Oh, you mean because he shot people. So ok, yeah, he did break the law.

Fuck laws. Why have them? Just give everyone a gun. More guns means more safety.
By law he wasn't supposed to be able to buy the gun in the first place. From what I saw this morning the guy was convicted of a violent crime and if the Air Force had reported it he would've been turned down for the gun purchase.
 

Unclebaldrick

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By law he wasn't supposed to be able to buy the gun in the first place. From what I saw this morning the guy was convicted of a violent crime and if the Air Force had reported it he would've been turned down for the gun purchase.
So we leave this up to a voluntary "honor system"?

ok.
 

Fogdog

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By law he wasn't supposed to be able to buy the gun in the first place. From what I saw this morning the guy was convicted of a violent crime and if the Air Force had reported it he would've been turned down for the gun purchase.
The shooter had been turned down for a gun permit. In Texas, nonetheless. It doesn't seem that this was entirely due to the military's reporting system. Texas is pretty gun friendly and I will be willing to bet that they have a scandalously underfunded gun regulatory body.

"Texas Gov. Greg Abbott said separately that Kelley had applied for a Texas right-to-carry permit and had been turned down.

"It was after that that he was able to buy this gun," Abbott said. "So there's ongoing information that needs to be gathered.""
 

Grandpapy

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I admire the Air Force's quickness in pointing out it's mistake, and steps taken.

Killing is a mental health problem.
 

vostok

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No, he didn't break the law. He applied and a gun was sold to him. Oh, you mean because he shot people. So ok, yeah, he did break the law.

Fuck laws. Why have them? Just give everyone a gun. More guns means more safety.
is not what the us has now..?


doom, doooom fucking DOOOOOM!
 

vostok

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He also escaped from psychiatric ward in 2012..I don't know you think that would've been the giveaway, though:wall:
yes the press can invent all the headline seeking crap they like

as long as it gets viewers

but if just if he lived

he might be suing all them tv/press companies ..?

can't his descendants sue ..?
 

whitebb2727

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So we leave this up to a voluntary "honor system"?

ok.
The shooter had been turned down for a gun permit. In Texas, nonetheless. It doesn't seem that this was entirely due to the military's reporting system. Texas is pretty gun friendly and I will be willing to bet that they have a scandalously underfunded gun regulatory body.

"Texas Gov. Greg Abbott said separately that Kelley had applied for a Texas right-to-carry permit and had been turned down.

"It was after that that he was able to buy this gun," Abbott said. "So there's ongoing information that needs to be gathered.""
It doesn't matter about state law. The 4473 form specifically asks if a person has been convicted of misdemeanor domestic violence charge.

By federal law he wasn't allowed to buy the gun.
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Question 11 section I.

The guy should never been able to buy the gun.
 

Unclebaldrick

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It doesn't matter about state law. The 4473 form specifically asks if a person has been convicted of misdemeanor domestic violence charge.

By federal law he wasn't allowed to buy the gun.
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Question 11 section I.

The guy should never been able to buy the gun.
Wow, I feel so much safer. Thanks. I am sure the families of the dead feel better too.
 

Fogdog

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It doesn't matter about state law. The 4473 form specifically asks if a person has been convicted of misdemeanor domestic violence charge.

By federal law he wasn't allowed to buy the gun.
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Question 11 section I.

The guy should never been able to buy the gun.
So that's it then, lie on the form and get your gun? No other checks are made? The state knew something about him, otherwise his concealed carry permit would have gone through. Is there no effort made to validate these submissions?
 
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