HydroRed's Horticultural Whorehouse

horribleherk

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I'm discovering the clone scene is about as hit& miss as the seed market & at some time I'll order seeds again never tried bubblegummer but have grown their skunk special, ww x B.B. & pure ak which was the better of their stuff I've tried the ww x bb just wasn't that good in spite of giving me huge buds no one wanted it
 
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HydroRed

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I haven't seen seen much on wwXbb. It seems like anything crossed with BB is large, just not very good. I grew out a NLxBB by World Of Seeds that was heavy yield, but average smoke at best.
How was the Skunk Special? I have one of those too and it is the smallest, blackest little seed I have in my entire collection. It looks like the seeds you would find in shitty mexican brick back in the early 90's lol.
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horribleherk

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I haven't seen seen much on wwXbb. It seems like anything crossed with BB is large, just not very good. I grew out a NLxBB by World Of Seeds that was heavy yield, but average smoke at best.
How was the Skunk Special? I have one of those too and it is the smallest, blackest little seed I have in my entire collection. It looks like the seeds you would find in shitty mexican brick back in the early 90's lol.
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it hermied on me pretty good about 250 seeds from 6 plants the smoke wasn't all that pure ak made it to a second grow but was replaced with sannies killing fields bubblegummer & c-99 is supposed to be their best ww x bb gave donkey dicks that no one liked including me
 

HydroRed

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Quick post of whats going on in my world....
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These girls are way shorter than I thought they would be. I just changed the light over from MH to HPS since I thought these were going to stretch on me like my others did. I was wrong. Sitting pretty squat for a bit over a week since flip. Now I know whats up for future grows with this Indica leaning pheno.
They are starting to lift their skirts for me now too. Overall everything is going smooth and they seem happy.

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Heres the new GG Momma cut taking root top left, Kosher Kush Momma top right, Black D.O.G. sprout bottom left, and Bubble Gum sprout bottom Right.
I had changed out the res water for the sprouts a couple days ago but got sidetracked & forgot to ph it. -Whoops
I noticed they were looking pale and caught it pretty quick. Both are coming in green again.
 

HydroRed

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I swear the difference between what I had a few yrs back and now are night & day.
This new KK looks to be a heavier producer than my Sativa dom KK momma I had before too. So far these seem like they would do very well in a single cola SOG grow. I would have never got away with doing that with the old cut. Still kicking myself for losing that cut.
 

horribleherk

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I swear the difference between what I had a few yrs back and now are night & day.
This new KK looks to be a heavier producer than my Sativa dom KK momma I had before too. So far these seem like they would do very well in a single cola SOG grow. I would have never got away with doing that with the old cut. Still kicking myself for losing that cut.
I also kick myself in the ass for loosing some of my cuts & replacing them isn't as easy as I thought it would be I'm steady trying things & weeding them out for not cutting it I'm wanting an og cross of some sort preferably sour'd & im grooming this cut IMG_3168.JPGto go in one of my tents & im hoping this cut of blackjack makes the grade IMG_3167.JPG I'm cutting this one that's finishing outdoors as the quality isn't up to par IMG_3165.JPGit seems as the industry gets more commercialized good strains are getting harder to come by
 

HydroRed

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I also kick myself in the ass for loosing some of my cuts & replacing them isn't as easy as I thought it would be I'm steady trying things & weeding them out for not cutting it I'm wanting an og cross of some sort preferably sour'd & im grooming this cut View attachment 4033182to go in one of my tents & im hoping this cut of blackjack makes the grade View attachment 4033183 I'm cutting this one that's finishing outdoors as the quality isn't up to par View attachment 4033185it seems as the industry gets more commercialized good strains are getting harder to come by
I hear that man. Is the Blackjack clone only?
Hard to find the ones that arent "watered down" yet. Im about ready to start poppin some seeds from the 90's. Old school genetics coming back through like they are something new haha. Like White Widow, been crossed with almost everything under the sun since the early 90's. Folks forgot what the original White Widow even taste like. 10 years from now, everyone will have forgotten what the original Gorilla Glue or Cookies taste like haha.
 

horribleherk

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I hear that man. Is the Blackjack clone only?
Hard to find the ones that arent "watered down" yet. Im about ready to start poppin some seeds from the 90's. Old school genetics coming back through like they are something new haha. Like White Widow, been crossed with almost everything under the sun since the early 90's. Folks forgot what the original White Widow even taste like. 10 years from now, everyone will have forgotten what the original Gorilla Glue or Cookies taste like haha.
watered down is exactly right I had shut my room down while we sold a house & bought another & moved just since I've started back up I'm finding a lot of stuff I'm trying just ain't all that I'm hoping for a keeper out of this run but the best thing I've found in the last year is purple city genetics doubledream it's bluedream75% & stardawg 25% & lucky for me I've kept a cut alive it's just got plain hard to find something I consider really good & im in cali I'm just discovering people are coveting the good cuts coupled with the fact I'm an old fart & don't cover all the bases I used too lol...
 

horribleherk

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I hear that man. Is the Blackjack clone only?
Hard to find the ones that arent "watered down" yet. Im about ready to start poppin some seeds from the 90's. Old school genetics coming back through like they are something new haha. Like White Widow, been crossed with almost everything under the sun since the early 90's. Folks forgot what the original White Widow even taste like. 10 years from now, everyone will have forgotten what the original Gorilla Glue or Cookies taste like haha.
got the blackjack from www.kingklonebrand.com & it's different from the others in that blackberry kush is crossed with jackherer instead of using black domina like nirvana does I have 2 phenos I've cloned pending harvest & quality of the finished productIMG_3170.JPG
 

MichiganMedGrower

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Ok, not impressed at all with this pheno of Kosher Kush. Where's the smell and where's the frost? Not even close to what I remember it being.
At this rate, I'm likely gonna have a free spot in the momma room soon.
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In my experience some of the best plants I grew did not have a lot of frost in the leaves. And they looked like sativa leaning bud structure like the Kush you got there.

Don't give up hope this early.
 

HydroRed

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In my experience some of the best plants I grew did not have a lot of frost in the leaves. And they looked like sativa leaning bud structure like the Kush you got there.

Don't give up hope this early.
Ya, I probably shouldnt discount it yet, but this isnt stacking up to be even remotely like the first KK cut I had. First one was very heavy Sativa that stretched like crazy, and had a smell and frost that was unforgettable.......this one -not so much. Maybe Im just spoiled lol
 

horribleherk

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Ya, I probably shouldnt discount it yet, but this isnt stacking up to be even remotely like the first KK cut I had. First one was very heavy Sativa that stretched like crazy, and had a smell and frost that was unforgettable.......this one -not so much. Maybe Im just spoiled lol
their skywalker grows like you describe your first cut of kk except that's been a couple of years ago it may not be the same either my blackjack is getting better by the day glad I cloned it figure on early dec. harvest
 

MichiganMedGrower

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Here @HydroRed is a plant from an old seed pack from CH9 in the early 2000's. I could only get this seed to germ and the plant has had trouble so I am not keeping clones but it's genetics include old sensei seed sativa hybrids. Including power plant, jack Herrer and also their hash plant. He used a cubed mix back then. And I think the original CH9 hybrid had something to do with Yumbolt. It's called Vintage 2006. I think it was his first generation breeding plant.

Anyway. I have high hopes for this mild citrusy/ ammonia smelling plant with no frost on its leaves. Maybe yours will surprise you.

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HydroRed

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Just under 5 weeks since flip and in a matter of days she went from "wheres the stink" to "holy funk batman". Not the frost I anticipated but shes shaping up......I'm still going to hold out hope that she turns into something special like my last Kosher Kush momma.
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"Black D.O.G". and "Bubblegummer" should be putting off some clones in the next 2-3 wks or so then another week+ for rooting the cuts.
 

HydroRed

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Ok, so I just started another flood table of the same strain from the same momma under the same light and room. Only difference from the other flood table of the Kosher Kush is the nutrients Im using. @GreenleafNutrients was kind enough to send me out a sample of their one part dry nutrient called "Mega Crop".
Upon opening the pack, I was welcomed with a smell of baby poop and burnt vitamins lol.
I weighed out 50g for 10gal of water as the feed schedule suggests on their website.
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My water from tap was 115 ppm and 6.9 pH.
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I mixed the 50g of Mega Crop into a one gallon jug of water first to examine how it breaks down before putting it into my fresh clean res.
I was impressed with how well it broke down in the water as it looked like ice tea in the jug with no particulates visible. I dumped the jug into the res and let it sit for about an hour and took PPM and pH measurements.
PPM of 760 and a pH of 6.2. I haven't even added any pH down or anything else so it seems like it has good buffering properties in it as a stand alone nutrient.
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I added 10ml of H2o2 per gal as I normally do when I run synthetics. I was informed by the company that it is ok to use the nutrients in a sterile res with H2o2.
I was also informed that the site only accounts for elemental PPM, it does not include the increase in PPM from other non-element additives, like kelp, chitosan, etc. This explains why my ppm are a little higher than what it states it should be on the site which is I believe is 455 PPM.

Kosher Kush up and flooding with Mega Crop:
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