the politics of fucking little girls: roy moore, the next GOP senator from alabama

[UncleBuck]

Because we elected politicians that do the bidding of corporate interests instead of actual constituents

that in no way explains why a guy who thinks muslims should be banned from public office, homosexuality should be made illegal, and hitting on 14 year old girls outside their custody hearings is OK.

you kinda remind me of the time when i was at the tire shop and the tire guys locked my keys in the car and to make up for it they tried to put more tires on my car. woah guys, the answer to everything isn;t more tires. jeez.

 

[Huckster79]

I dont necessarily disagree that corp America has too much influence. But my question is how Americans got to this point, i should have said it that way. How did 1/3 of this counrty join a cult of personality of trump and his minions like moore? How did individuals get to this point?

 

[Fogdog]

That simple statement is beyond profound and spot effing on...

If you took a script of this shit, just a within reasonable memmory it would be read as satire, but its todays reality... HTF did America get to this point???

We've always been a bit off in the minds of other Europeans and completely insane by Asian standards. The legacy of the north-south divide and the Civil War are still with us. My opinion is once one can believe that indiscriminate murder, generational forced servitude and lynchings based upon skin color are acceptable, a person can accept just about anything. "the south will rise again" is still a favored saying down there. They are casting this scandal as another Yankee plot only they call it liberal media. They -- the hard right -- reject the possibility this is true.

Not that I'm speaking from some well of knowledge, just my opinion.

@Padawanbater2 is more optimistic about the possibility of Moore losing than I am and would be glad to see him proven right. It could be the times are starting to change. What I talked about is how it has been.

 

[Fogdog]

Idk, Lee Carter just won in Virginia

Alabama

But I'm hopeful that this country is rejecting Trump and the white male identity politics of his brand.

 

[Padawanbater2]

We've always been a bit off in the minds of other Europeans and completely insane by Asian standards. The legacy of the north-south divide and the Civil War are still with us. My opinion is once one can believe that indiscriminate murder, generational forced servitude and lynchings based upon skin color are acceptable, a person can accept just about anything. "the south will rise again" is still a favored saying down there. They are casting this scandal as another Yankee plot only they call it liberal media. They -- the hard right -- reject the possibility this is true.

Not that I'm speaking from some well of knowledge, just my opinion.

@Padawanbater2 is more optimistic about the possibility of Moore losing than I am and would be glad to see him proven right. It could be the times are starting to change. What I talked about is how it has been.

I think Moore will still win. As sad as it is to have a sitting US senator accused of peadophilia..

 

[Fogdog]

Because we elected politicians that do the bidding of corporate interests instead of actual constituents

LOL

corporate interests are about to put a child molester in power. Is this where you say Democrats and Republicans are the same?

 

[UncleBuck]

I think Moore will still win. As sad as it is to have a sitting US senator accused of peadophilia..

again, what is this "accused" shit? even mitt romneyhas more spine than you. this is backed up by 30 sources with contemporaneous accounts. if this shit hit a court room it would be over before it began.

roy moore hit on a 14 year old girl in the hallways of a court room outside of her custody hearing, got her drunk, took her out to the woods, and tried to fuck her. he was 32 years old at the time.

that leaves about 40 more years worth of sexual predation to find out about. which we will.

 

[Huckster79]

Yea it didnt scare em from uncle don. Hell now we even know hos body guard confirmed they did offer him hookers, and he says they said thanks but no....BUT...

1 his minions kinda have reputation for telling partial truths if they mumble truth at all...

2 he says they parted after that to their own rooms, what would have stopped uncle don from dialing front desk and saying "hes gone off to his room now, send em up.."

I know the pee tapes a bit off topic but these guys are pervs

 

[Padawanbater2]

LOL

corporate interests are about to put a child molester in power. Is this where you say Democrats and Republicans are the same?

People like Trump and Moore have become politically viable because people aren't happy with the politicians in office

People aren't happy with the politicians in office because the politicians in office tend to favor the interests of those that fund their political campaigns

 

[Padawanbater2]

again, what is this "accused" shit? even mitt romneyhas more spine than you. this is backed up by 30 sources with contemporaneous accounts. if this shit hit a court room it would be over before it began.

Everyone is innocent until they're proven guilty in a court of law. Moore has not yet faced a court of law. I believe he's guilty, but I'm not going to condemn him for being guilty before he's found guilty by a court of law.

 

[UncleBuck]

Everyone is innocent until they're proven guilty in a court of law. Moore has not yet faced a court of law. I believe he's guilty, but I'm not going to condemn him for being guilty before he's found guilty by a court of law.

what do you think would happen if 30 people went into a court of law against roy moore, who has already admitted to the truth of 3 of the 4 underage girls he tried to molest?

good job on the "if true" part, that is what republicans are saying i guess.

 

[Fogdog]

People like Trump and Moore have become politically viable because people aren't happy with the politicians in office

People aren't happy with the politicians in office because the politicians in office tend to favor the interests of those that fund their political campaigns

What you are repeating is the day after analysis and your own bias. I remember reading what you just said immediately after the election but better analysis says otherwise.

Trump and Moore are in office because a majority of white people find white male identity politics persuasive. Trump was all about the wall, grab them by the pussy, make white america great again, mexican rapists, non-pc language and so forth. He won because of that, not in spite of it. His economic policies weren't important to the Trump voter. It was racism and sexism.

This is well documented and understood. I can post links to reports based upon very good statistical analysis from surveys that are very convincing regarding this. I didn't this time because they apparently fell on deaf ears when I posted them in earlier discussions with you on this topic.

 

[Huckster79]

What i find very interesting are those that even though he claims innocence are defending the actions he commited not claiming hes innocent... they know....

 

[abandonconflict]

I have some disorders homie. I have a hi IQ and had the highest scores in all aptitude test, including the military. But im sick and cant funtion. The meds help a bit but its only changes my from 1 to another sort. Its been like this since i was 13, but after the military it was 100 fold worse. Ive tryed everything to be normal but ive come to the conclusion that i will be sick till the day i dye. Hopefully sooner then later...

Go get involved in the efforts against climate change. Pm me if you want advice on how to get involved in serious ocean conservation.

 

[Padawanbater2]

what do you think would happen if 30 people went into a court of law against roy moore, who has already admitted to the truth of 3 of the 4 underage girls he tried to molest?

good job on the "if true" part, that is what republicans are saying i guess.

I already said I agree Moore is guilty based on the evidence. I'm not willing to condemn him until it is proven in a court of law, though. Because that's what conservatives do. That's what they did with Clinton with her email scandal..

Why are you trying to make it appear as if I support Moore, in any way, when I've condemned him repeatedly in this thread?

 

[UncleBuck]

that's what conservatives do. That's what they did with Clinton with her email scandal..

and you did too.

 

[Padawanbater2]

and you did too.

That's what you've done. After condemning people for condemning Clinton on allegations alone.

I've been consistent in that Clinton and Moore deserve fair defense in regards to their allegations.

 

[Fogdog]

People like Trump and Moore have become politically viable because people aren't happy with the politicians in office

People aren't happy with the politicians in office because the politicians in office tend to favor the interests of those that fund their political campaigns

You are just regurgitating Sanders faction liberal ideology as if everybody has the same viewpoint. Trump, Trumpism, white identity politics are different. These concepts are what drove Trump's win, not dissatisfaction with corporate control of whatever it is you think they control. Listen to what Trump preached at his conventions. It was the wall, Mexicans taking your jobs, even TPP was couched as foreigners unfairly stealing jobs. Grab her by the pussy, Muslim invaders. Remember the stuff Pie said? It was mostly racist bigoted shit.

What you are repeating is Sanders liberal political points that have little effect on Trump's supporters. These talking points are important to you and it's my guess the people you talk to but not in Alabama and not most of Trump's supporters.

This from a NY Times article on the subject.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/24/opinion/donald-trump-identity-politics.html

In the graphic below, the kinds of questions used to identify how respondents felt about their white identity are described here:
The survey, they write,

asked four questions that captured dimensions of white identity: the importance of white identity, how much whites are being discriminated against, the likelihood that whites are losing jobs to nonwhites, and the importance of whites working together to change laws unfair to whites. We combined those questions into a scale capturing the strength of white identity and found that it was strongly related to Republicans’ support for Donald Trump.




A quote from the article:
Ashley Jardina, a political scientist at Duke, puts it this way:

When the dominant status of whites relative to racial and ethnic minorities is secure and unchallenged, white identity likely remains dormant. When whites perceive their group’s dominant status is threatened or their group is unfairly disadvantaged, however, their racial identity may become salient and politically relevant.

What you talk about are issues important to you but that's only a small part of what is affecting red state politics. Your "corporate control" and economic issues are race neutral. The Trump voter is not race neutral. Not one bit.

 

[SneekyNinja]

I already said I agree Moore is guilty based on the evidence. I'm not willing to condemn him until it is proven in a court of law, though. Because that's what conservatives do. That's what they did with Clinton with her email scandal..

Why are you trying to make it appear as if I support Moore, in any way, when I've condemned him repeatedly in this thread?

So you'll let the Republican child molestor away with it but you want to lock up "crooked Clinton" based on debunked accusations by someone trying to sell a book?

 

[see4]

That's what you've done. After condemning people for condemning Clinton on allegations alone.

I've been consistent in that Clinton and Moore deserve fair defense in regards to their allegations.

That's not what your vote says. Your vote says you hated Hillary and wanted to spite her even if that meant giving control of the greatest nation earth to a loud mouth pussy grabber. All based on nothing but accusations.

Hashtag, so there's that. End hashtag.