My plant has somehow been pollinated

[whitebb2727]

Actually heard it from @Dr. Who.

I found some info on it. Ill we if I can find it.

Still the cob up your ass. Just fucking drop it. Or keep on and lie some more.

 

[whitebb2727]

Agreed, but I *really* hate getting hermies early.
Seeing male flowers on buds is fairly common late in flower. When I see them on buds, it's usually time to harvest.

I do too. If its all the dudes got and late flower the damage is done and might as well finish it.

 

[MichiganMedGrower]

Not all hermie seeds will be hermie. It can vary but usually around 25%. I've seen a number of grows on here using them and done it myself a few times.

I have some landrace sativas that always throw a few nanners on lower buds.

Where did you get the percentage?

I grow some nanner prone Thai and diesel hybrids. They show around week 8 and 10. I have seen only a few seeds in each plant result.

None of the seeds I have planted for 4 years from these "hermies" have shown even 1 nanner despite the parent plant growing the seeds.

Bad breeding is bad breeding. But well bred even nanner prone strains like Thai usually pose no problem.

 

[MichiganMedGrower]

Actually heard it from @Dr. Who.

I found some info on it. Ill we if I can find it.

Still the cob up your ass. Just fucking drop it. Or keep on and lie some more.

He heard it from rm3.

Keep repeating his fantasy of Grow info.

The only liars are him and those permanent noob computer geeks backing his manipulative ass up.

 

[whitebb2727]

Guys like so short have said they think seeded pot makes better hash.

 

[Chunky Stool]

He heard it from rm3.

Keep repeating his fantasy of Grow info.

The only liars are him and those permanent noob computer geeks backing his manipulative ass up.

Hey!
I am a computer geek.

Disclaimer: I'm not taking sides.
I've never been to RM3's website, but some of his advice has been helpful.

 

[whitebb2727]

Where did you get the percentage?

I grow some nanner prone Thai and diesel hybrids. They show around week 8 and 10. I have seen only a few seeds in each plant result.

None of the seeds I have planted for 4 years from these "hermies" have shown even 1 nanner despite the parent plant growing the seeds.

Bad breeding is bad breeding. But well bred even nanner prone strains like Thai usually pose no problem.

I thought you were talking about my statement about unseeded pot having more cannabinoids.

As far as the 25% of hermie seeds being hermie is based on several grows over the years I saw here and the many hermie seeds I've grown over the years.

Some new studies actually show that hermaphrodite are not genetic. Any and all cannabis is capable of going herm. Its actually and enzyme that causes it. I think it said enzyme. Or protein. Something of the sort. It went on to say that just because the parent went herm doesn't mean the offspring will. I didn't save the study but will see if I can find it.

There is a difference in a true hermaphrodite and a female that expresses male flowers.


My point being I have experience growing herm seeds. I have experience making fem seeds. I've grown more bag and brick seeds than I can remember.

Lets get a couple things straight. I'm a capable grower with my own experiences. Just because you dislike a guy doesn't mean everything he says is wrong. Just because I say something that lines up with what that guy says doesn't mean I'm wrong or pushing that persons way.

You really need just to let it go man.

I said up to 25%. It varies wildly.

 

[Bad Karma]

Sounds more like very young seeds that would mature if given enough time.

 

[MichiganMedGrower]

Hey!
I am a computer geek.

Disclaimer: I'm not taking sides.
I've never been to RM3's website, but some of his advice has been helpful.

Maybe but you are no permanent noob.

 

[MichiganMedGrower]

I thought you were talking about my statement about unseeded pot having more cannabinoids.

As far as the 25% of hermie seeds being hermie is based on several grows over the years I saw here and the many hermie seeds I've grown over the years.

Some new studies actually show that hermaphrodite are not genetic. Any and all cannabis is capable of going herm. Its actually and enzyme that causes it. I think it said enzyme. Or protein. Something of the sort. It went on to say that just because the parent went herm doesn't mean the offspring will. I didn't save the study but will see if I can find it.

There is a difference in a true hermaphrodite and a female that expresses male flowers.


My point being I have experience growing herm seeds. I have experience making fem seeds. I've grown more bag and brick seeds than I can remember.

Lets get a couple things straight. I'm a capable grower with my own experiences. Just because you dislike a guy doesn't mean everything he says is wrong. Just because I say something that lines up with what that guy says doesn't mean I'm wrong or pushing that persons way.

You really need just to let it go man.

I said up to 25%. It varies wildly.

Still waiting on any proof. And I was commenting on both of the opinions you posted.

And most of what rm3 even put in his "books" on his website which are just the same threads he copied and pasted here except for a couple of omissions used to bait people to join there is a bunch of opinionated crap with no basis in actual science or even common gardening sense.

Your opinion of what happened between us is not a concern in the matter.

You heard an rm3 myth propagated by another internet "exaggerater" and repeated it without proof. Again. And again. I have already asked you for proof twice now.

You yourself call people out all the time for doing that.

 

[whitebb2727]

Still waiting on any proof. And I was commenting on both of the opinions you posted.

And most of what rm3 even put in his "books" on his website which are just the same threads he copied and pasted here except for a couple of omissions used to bait people to join there is a bunch of opinionated crap with no basis in actual science or even common gardening sense.

Your opinion of what happened between us is not a concern in the matter.

You heard an rm3 myth propagated by another internet "exaggerater" and repeated it without proof. Again. And again. I have already asked you for proof twice now.

You yourself call people out all the time for doing that.

Proof how? I'm going by first hand experience. I would say grow the seeds. Most won't be hermie. Some can be.

I don't know exactly how to go about proving something I've done for years.

You are delusional. You lie. You called rm3 a rat. He didn't rat you out. Period. He invited a third party to a private conversation. Oh my god. The horror. You happened to be talking about the guy he invited.

Get over yourself. You are so full of it.

I read those threads. You said he deleted the things said about you. They weren't. The threads show what went on.

I said there is a difference in a true herm and a female that expresses male flowers. That would be the difference in the rate of offspring being herm.


I don't have to do shit for you. I've spent enough time backing up what I say.

So keep crying and ill keep calling you on it.

 

[MichiganMedGrower]

Proof how? I'm going by first hand experience. I would say grow the seeds. Most won't be hermie. Some can be.

I don't know exactly how to go about proving something I've done for years.

You are delusional. You lie. You called rm3 a rat. He didn't rat you out. Period. He invited a third party to a private conversation. Oh my god. The horror. You happened to be talking about the guy he invited.

Get over yourself. You are so full of it.

I read those threads. You said he deleted the things said about you. They weren't. The threads show what went on.

I said there is a difference in a true herm and a female that expresses male flowers. That would be the difference in the rate of offspring being herm.


I don't have to do shit for you. I've spent enough time backing up what I say.

So keep crying and ill keep calling you on it.

You have the story wrong. And most of what transpired was in the private conversation before he "invited" nosy joe Mack in.

And I said he never posted the stuff he wrote to me that makes him look bad. Only parts of things to make him seem right.

It's his website man. He covered himself right away like a good moderator. If he wanted me out that's what was going to happen. I hurt his feelings in private with the truth. He wanted me to call him and make up. I told him I didn't want to talk to him after he ignored my friends request for more meds to re test. He was only worried about his review. Not the patient.

And he had already insulted my methods and grow numerous times right on my journal. Funny because it was much nicer than his.

Manupulative fraud as a grower. And posting private messages to make me look bad is definitely a rat thing to do.

So he is a fraudulent manipulative rat.

And you apparently love him. Lol.



Rm3 is a fraud. He will do anything to try to keep that fact from getting out. He has invested years of his time posting to be internet famous for revolutionizing pot farming.

And you are still quoteing misinformation about cannabis from something he said to justify his seedy Grows.

 

[chemphlegm]

well fuck all that, show me some information concerning these baby seeds with no pollen please someone already? I have sen baby seeds when I was a baby grower and didnt recognize a fem pollinating itself before harvest. I have never seen baby seeds without also discovering the source of the pollen, on that plant or another.

 

[whitebb2727]

You have the story wrong. And most of what transpired was in the private conversation before he "invited" nosy joe Mack in.

And I said he never posted the stuff he wrote to me that makes him look bad. Only parts of things to make him seem right.

It's his website man. He covered himself right away like a good moderator. If he wanted me out that's what was going to happen. I hurt his feelings in private with the truth. He wanted me to call him and make up. I told him I didn't want to talk to him after he ignored my friends request for more meds to re test. He was only worried about his review. Not the patient.

And he had already insulted my methods and grow numerous times right on my journal. Funny because it was much nicer than his.

Manupulative fraud as a grower. And posting private messages to make me look bad is definitely a rat thing to do.

So he is a fraudulent manipulative rat.

And you apparently love him. Lol.



Rm3 is a fraud. He will do anything to try to keep that fact from getting out. He has invested years of his time posting to be internet famous for revolutionizing pot farming.

And you are still quoteing misinformation about cannabis from something he said to justify his seedy Grows.

You are so delusional. You brought it up and accused me of parroting his advice.

Fuck off. You interjected that just so you could hear yourself talk about it some more or something.

Nobody gives a fuck. Get over it. How ling has it been? You still carrying on and crying about it.

Give it a rest.

You are the only one talking about rm3. You brought it up.

 

[Chunky Stool]

And you're sure because...?
You made the claim so the burden of proof is on you.

 

[Bad Karma]

And you're sure because...?
You made the claim so the burden of proof is on you.

Yes, I am sure. Like I said, I learned this the hard way, and made the same mistake with cold water during bloom. Years ago I was reading through some threads one night and came across someone complaining about micro seeds in their grows. Another member brought up the cold water/stress issue and enlightened us to the problem. I tried it out, by just letting my homemade RO water sit over night before use, any and all micro seeds disappeared from my buds. Just google how bad cold water is for cannabis, you will see that it can cause growth to slow, and can even halt it completely, thus killing the plant. Why is it such a stretch of the imagination that this same form of stress can cause females to start making seed husks late in flower?

 

[Chunky Stool]

Yes, I am sure. Like I said, I learned this the hard way, and made the same mistake with cold water during bloom. Years ago I was reading through some threads one night and came across someone complaining about micro seeds in their grows. Another member brought up the cold water/stress issue and enlightened us to the problem. I tried it out, by just letting my homemade RO water sit over night before use, any and all micro seeds disappeared from my buds. Just google how bad cold water is for cannabis, you will see that it can cause growth to slow, and can even halt it completely, thus killing the plant. Why is it such a stretch of the imagination that this same form of stress can cause females to start making seed husks late in flower?

Stress causes hermies, which cause seeds.
I've never heard of seed husks/micro seeds. And how did the plant magically absorb them? How long did it take?
This is really weird...

 

[Bad Karma]

And how did the plant magically absorb them? How long did it take?

Who magically absorbed what? What are you talking about?

 

[Chunky Stool]

Who magically absorbed what? What are you talking about?

You said your "micro seeds" disappeared after you started using RO water. Did they fly away?
Reading comprehension is obviously not your forte.

 

[whitebb2727]

Yes, I am sure. Like I said, I learned this the hard way, and made the same mistake with cold water during bloom. Years ago I was reading through some threads one night and came across someone complaining about micro seeds in their grows. Another member brought up the cold water/stress issue and enlightened us to the problem. I tried it out, by just letting my homemade RO water sit over night before use, any and all micro seeds disappeared from my buds. Just google how bad cold water is for cannabis, you will see that it can cause growth to slow, and can even halt it completely, thus killing the plant. Why is it such a stretch of the imagination that this same form of stress can cause females to start making seed husks late in flower?

So cool rain in the fall causes it also?

I've used cold water and even ice water in the past and didn't get seed husks.

More like it got pollinated and the seeds didn't mature.