Seed Breeding w/ Slow Flowering Sativa (Ducksfoot)

Majikoopa

Majikoopa

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pop22 said:
i gave the website, look for yourself. It looks like wally duck to me, they have pic. I believe Underground Collective has kept Wally duck alive. I wouldn't use Wally's duck for breeding if I had a better choice... that's why I'll do several back crosses to my duck
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Yeah dude I tried to go to your "Sampedro.com" and there's nothing there... Can you go to where you say you found it and copy and paste the link so people reading this can check it out? Thanks!
 
OzCocoLoco

OzCocoLoco

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pop22 said:
I'm quite serious and unless you have clear, scientific proof I'm wrong, I stick by my statements
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Your serious about an Australian Landrace ? You can stick to your statement all you want but it’s still wrong. How would of this landrace made its way to Australia ?
 
PhenoMenal

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Cannabis isn't native to Australia, and while we're geographically close to Thailand etc i'm 99% sure it's been here only since the First Fleet, who without doubt brought hemp seeds - their fricken sails were hemp (Australia's colonisation was in 1788 ) so that's just over 200 years. How long does it take for an introduced plant to become a landrace!? i dunno

I have no idea if there are 'small wild populations' out there. I talked to wallyduck about it nearly two decades ago - also grew out his pineapple C99 F5's, I can't remember exactly what he said now but for some reason I think he said he got it in a trip to Thailand or something, but had to do a lot of work to stabilise it. (Pretty sure he didn't just "find it out in the Aussie bush")

Ermes (Italy, ~1950's) is the only hemp strain i know of which has webbed leaves:
Inbred from 'Fibranova'. monoecious variety. (Fibranova is Bredemann Eletta x Carmagnola). Derived from one single Fibranova plant. It shows the "Pinnatifidofilla" sensum Crescini and Allavena leaf shape. The plant is the earliest Italian varieties and produce good seed yield. The leaf character is recessive trait that helps to maintain by visual selection pure variety. The leaf marker appear at the first true leaf stage showing a single leaf, while the normal varieties show tree composed leaf. This character help to maintain the variety not contaminated from hemp drug type or from dioecious or other monoecious variety. Continuous gas-cromatography analysis for THC evaluation is not needed because the visual control allows the elimination of the contaminating chemotypes. Under registration. The webbed leaf and single leaf traits are known from Italian varieties since the early 19th century.
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No shortage of THC in Ducksfoot though
 
too larry

too larry

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pop22 said:
. . . . . . .As to stealth, I had one on the edge of the treeline behind my house and I had someone stand right next to it twice and never even noticed
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That is what I'm interested in it for. The stealth factor. I followed a Englishman's thread who grew a few in his yard. He did have some moisture related problems, but he had them in a small makeshift greenhouse.
 
Noinch

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pop22 said:
I'm quite serious and unless you have clear, scientific proof I'm wrong, I stick by my statements
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I wouldn't be running your mouth about scientific proof when you have absolutely none that any kind of cannabis is native to Australia

Considering you're trying to argue against actual Australians you look pretty foolish. All cannabis here is introduced, mostly from asian countries
 
OzCocoLoco

OzCocoLoco

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Noinch said:
I wouldn't be running your mouth about scientific proof when you have absolutely none that any kind of cannabis is native to Australia

Considering you're trying to argue against actual Australians you look pretty foolish. All cannabis here is introduced, mostly from asian countries
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But he did months of research lol
 
PhenoMenal

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too larry said:
That is what I'm interested in it for. The stealth factor.
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Ducksfoot is a beautiful strain in so many ways - really nice high, good yield, loves the Aussie climate, but I don't think we can ever really get a "stealth factor" from cannabis plants ... maybe to some extent during veg phase, but cannabis flowers are cannabis flowers right? :)

I think it's a fun, fascinating, but futile exercise trying to find a "stealth cannabis strain" ... and as soon as it's made known the public, it's no longer stealth. Even the leaves, while unique, make you think "they look suspiciously like cannabis!" How much "stealth" do strains like Ducksfoot give people? I don't know - some people say they've had people stand right beside and not know, but I wonder "do those people even know what regular cannabis looks like?"

Webbed leaf is a very interesting and unique characteristic of Ducksfoot (and this is almost certainly a trait that can be isolated and played with by CRISPR genetic engineering) -- but _how many other webbed-leaves varieties do you know of, that aren't based on Ducksfoot? --, but I don't think it offers any more "stealth" than a lazy iron coating on a stealth fighter jet :)

My opinions are entirely my own, and therefore probably wrong lol :)
ps. massive respect to Wally and hope everything is still kicking ass in your neck of the bush mate!!! :)
 
OzCocoLoco

OzCocoLoco

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PhenoMenal said:
Ducksfoot is a beautiful strain in so many ways - really nice high, good yield, loves the Aussie climate, but I don't think we can ever really get a "stealth factor" from cannabis plants ... maybe to some extent during veg phase, but cannabis flowers are cannabis flowers right? :)

I think it's a fun, fascinating, but futile exercise trying to find a "stealth cannabis strain" ... and as soon as it's made known the public, it's no longer stealth. Even the leaves, while unique, make you think "they look suspiciously like cannabis!" How much "stealth" do strains like Ducksfoot give people? I don't know - some people say they've had people stand right beside and not know, but I wonder "do those people even know what regular cannabis looks like?"

Webbed leaf is a very interesting and unique characteristic of Ducksfoot (and this is almost certainly a trait that can be isolated and played with by CRISPR genetic engineering) -- but _how many other webbed-leaves varieties do you know of, that aren't based on Ducksfoot? --, but I don't think it offers any more "stealth" than a lazy iron coating on a stealth fighter jet :)

My opinions are entirely my own, and therefore probably wrong lol :)
ps. massive respect to Wally and hope everything is still kicking ass in your neck of the bush mate!!! :)
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What a great Aussie name “Wally” is :). Did he get busted a couple of years ago ?
 
too larry

too larry

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PhenoMenal said:
Ducksfoot is a beautiful strain in so many ways - really nice high, good yield, loves the Aussie climate, but I don't think we can ever really get a "stealth factor" from cannabis plants ... maybe to some extent during veg phase, but cannabis flowers are cannabis flowers right? :)

I think it's a fun, fascinating, but futile exercise trying to find a "stealth cannabis strain" ... and as soon as it's made known the public, it's no longer stealth. Even the leaves, while unique, make you think "they look suspiciously like cannabis!" How much "stealth" do strains like Ducksfoot give people? I don't know - some people say they've had people stand right beside and not know, but I wonder "do those people even know what regular cannabis looks like?"

Webbed leaf is a very interesting and unique characteristic of Ducksfoot (and this is almost certainly a trait that can be isolated and played with by CRISPR genetic engineering) -- but _how many other webbed-leaves varieties do you know of, that aren't based on Ducksfoot? --, but I don't think it offers any more "stealth" than a lazy iron coating on a stealth fighter jet :)

My opinions are entirely my own, and therefore probably wrong lol :)
ps. massive respect to Wally and hope everything is still kicking ass in your neck of the bush mate!!! :)
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I did my first winter grow last year. {I'm in NW Florida} The fact it was winter was like a shield of invisibility around the plants. I put mine in the bush, but a friend of mine that I split vegging with put his in the edge of the woods around his place. They were regular looking plants, but with them staked down, you could walk right by them without noticing them. Add the Duck leaf to that mix, and they would blend right in.

But you are right, a bunch of buds look like a bunch of buds. If the wrong person sees them, they {and maybe you} are gone.
 
pop22

pop22

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And maybe you should shut your trolling mouth unless you have proof I'm wrong. I did not state I had proof, only that I'm convinced that it is very likely.

This forum already has plenty of trolls, why don't you just fuck off.


Noinch said:
I wouldn't be running your mouth about scientific proof when you have absolutely none that any kind of cannabis is native to Australia

Considering you're trying to argue against actual Australians you look pretty foolish. All cannabis here is introduced, mostly from asian countries
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Noinch

Noinch

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pop22 said:
And maybe you should shut your trolling mouth unless you have proof I'm wrong. I did not state I had proof, only that I'm convinced that it is very likely.

This forum already has plenty of trolls, why don't you just fuck off.
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Jesus christ even just wikipedia can tell you you're wrong, and you say you've done research?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_in_Australia

"The first record of common hemp seeds brought to Australia was with the First Fleet at the request of Sir Joseph Banks, who marked the cargo "for commerce" in the hope that hemp would be produced commercially in the new colony. For 150 years early governments in Australia actively supported the growing of hemp with gifts of land and other grants,[6] and the consumption of cannabis in Australia in the 19th century was believed to be widespread"

All cannabis is introduced in Australia
 
too larry

too larry

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OzCocoLoco said:
As soon as a selection is done the resulting progeny are no longer a landrace and can never go back to being a true landrace
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What if Doctor Who accidentally dropped a couple of seeds when he was rolling a joint 5 thousand years ago? Come to think it, that would make a good episode.
 
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