Supreme Court of Canada case on state-run alcohol monopolies would likely impact provinces’ legal po

gb123

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If the justices rule in favour of a New Brunswick man fighting against provincial liquor monopolies, the decision will almost certainly trigger lawsuits across the country seeking to dismantle similar government-run corporations for marijuana.

MONTREAL—As provinces begin drafting laws for the control and sale of cannabis on their territories, an upcoming Supreme Court of Canada case is threatening to derail their plans.

Ontario and Quebec, for instance, want to create provincial cannabis monopolies. As a consequence, Quebecers and Ontarians would be prohibited from mail-ordering recreational cannabis from licensed producers outside their home province or buying pot from anyone other than their provincial government.

But on Dec. 6, the Supreme Court begins hearing arguments in a case that could mean the end of state-run monopolies as they apply to another favourite Canadian vice: alcohol

If the justices rule in favour of a New Brunswick man fighting against provincial liquor monopolies, the decision will almost certainly trigger lawsuits across the country seeking to dismantle similar government-run corporations for marijuana, according to legal and trade experts.
“It would mean big changes — a more free and fair cannabis industry,” said Jack Lloyd, one of the lawyers representing marijuana activists who received intervener status in the Supreme Court case.

The case began in 2012, when the RCMP arrested Gerard Comeau on his return to New Brunswick after he had bought alcohol in Quebec.

He was fined for violating New Brunswick law, which limits the amount of booze that can be brought into the province from elsewhere in Canada.

Comeau contested the ticket, arguing Sec. 121 of the Constitution Act, 1867, mandates that all Canadian goods be admitted freely across the country.

His lawyers argued the fathers of Confederation wanted a single market for all products made in Canada.

Comeau won, and his case has made its way to the highest court in the country.

Legal and trade experts consulted by The Canadian Press said they believe the Supreme Court will likely rule in favour of Comeau, but their opinions diverged on how that decision would apply to the cannabis industry.

Brian Lee Crowley, managing director of the Macdonald-Laurier Institute, an Ottawa-based think-tank, said a Supreme Court ruling in favour of Comeau would prevent provinces from discriminating between Canadian suppliers of alcohol — or cannabis.

“I think (a Comeau win) would make provinces not be able to prevent you from, say, mail-ordering marijuana from someone in another part of the country,” Crowley said in an interview.

Pier-Andre Bouchard St-Amant, a professor at Quebec’s School of Public Policy, said “according to all the prognostications, the Supreme Court will rule in favour of Comeau.”

He added, however, he believes provinces would still be allowed to enter into agreements with one another to limit the cross-border trade of certain products, depending on the scope of the ruling.

Andrew Smith of the University of Liverpool Management School, was an expert witness in the Comeau case and said he believes the framers of the Constitution wanted a single market “without fetters on interprovincial trade.”

Smith said if the Supreme Court agrees with Comeau, companies will surely attempt to use the judicial precedent to argue against provincial cannabis monopolies.

“I don’t think that this will happen in practice,” he said. Australia’s constitution has a free-trade clause similar to Canada’s, and the European Union is also governed by free-trade principles — but not with regard to recreational drugs, he explained.

“People in EU countries cannot drive to Amsterdam, where marijuana is openly sold in cafes, and then drive back to say, Germany, with the marijuana,” Smith said in an email.

“The principle of the single market doesn’t extend to such controversial products” in Australia or the EU, he said.

Whether marijuana will be mentioned in the Supreme Court’s ruling, or how broad it will be, remains to be seen.

But Lloyd said if free trade in Canada doesn’t apply to cannabis, then the black market will continue to fill an important void.

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has promised marijuana will be legal in Canada by July 1, 2018, but he has left it up to the provinces
to regulate how cannabis will be controlled and sold on their territories.

One of the main justifications for legalization was to take revenues away from organized criminals.

Canadians, however, will continue to purchase marijuana from illegal producers across the country — including by mail — if they can’t find the products they like, in an accessible way, in their home provinces, Lloyd said.

“The existing illegal industry will thrive if these provincial restrictions (remain) onerous.”
 

gb123

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“It would mean big changes — a more free and fair cannabis industry,” said Jack Lloyd, one of the lawyers representing marijuana activists who received intervener status in the Supreme Court case.
 

GroErr

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lmao, challenged and likely thrown out before they even implement them, would look good on Wynne's fail record. Has she implemented even one successful program during her whole term? Oh yeah, she expanded the sale of beer in supermarkets, that hasn't been implemented and no one cared about...
 

GroErr

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She gave us "cheaper" hydro. Until 2020 or whatever it is and we get doubly fucked. Moreso than before
Yeah our kids will be paying $1/kw ffs. But she doesn't care about that, it made her look good to those who don't pay attention and maybe gets her 10 votes next year :(
 

GroErr

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If it goes that high solar will need implemented
Yes, solar and wind have (had?) great potential. On a personal scale it's somewhat effective and can even generate revenue by feeding extra power back to the grid. Once it becomes the norm, I'm sure they'll find a way to charge YOU for feeding them extra power generated by your systems.
 

cannadan

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Yes, solar and wind have (had?) great potential. On a personal scale it's somewhat effective and can even generate revenue by feeding extra power back to the grid. Once it becomes the norm, I'm sure they'll find a way to charge YOU for feeding them extra power generated by your systems.
ya we will take that extra power... and give you a carbon credit towards towards the outrageous carbon tax.
but seriously you are probably right
a large majority of residential roof designs now include dead loads for solar installation.
 

Farmer.J

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Yes, solar and wind have (had?) great potential. On a personal scale it's somewhat effective and can even generate revenue by feeding extra power back to the grid. Once it becomes the norm, I'm sure they'll find a way to charge YOU for feeding them extra power generated by your systems.
Disposal fees
 

HotWaterKarl

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Yes, solar and wind have (had?) great potential. On a personal scale it's somewhat effective and can even generate revenue by feeding extra power back to the grid. Once it becomes the norm, I'm sure they'll find a way to charge YOU for feeding them extra power generated by your systems.
Absolutely! If we all generated our own power, who would pay for the power industry uses? It's why in many places you are NOT ALLOWED to disconnect from the electrical grid, and go off-grid. Your house must remain connected to the grid, and you must pay connection fees even if you generate your own off grid power. These cases have happened all over the US, not so much in Canada that I am aware of, but I bet the same happens here in some cities/townships.
 
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