HydroRed
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Running great with only tap water, Mega Crop and h2o2. I'ts early yet, but they seem quite happy. I havent had to top off yet, but when I do I'll be topping off with just pH water & h2o2 until res change every 2 wks.
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Running great with only tap water, Mega Crop and h2o2. I'ts early yet, but they seem quite happy. I havent had to top off yet, but when I do I'll be topping off with just pH water & h2o2 until res change every 2 wks.
HydroRed
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48 hrs since last pic and the girls are loving life. PPM @ 700 and pH of 6.3
I topped off the res with 1 gal of straight tap water pH to 4.9
After topping the res off its at 686 and a pH of 5.7 but I expect this to drift upwards as I top off with straight tap water up until res change.
This nutrient is very straight forward and convenient to use. It is holding up to its claims & if it performs like this the entire run, I'll be done with synthetics.
I topped off the res with 1 gal of straight tap water pH to 4.9
After topping the res off its at 686 and a pH of 5.7 but I expect this to drift upwards as I top off with straight tap water up until res change.
This nutrient is very straight forward and convenient to use. It is holding up to its claims & if it performs like this the entire run, I'll be done with synthetics.
ChaosHunter
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I like your flood tables ! How many times a day does it cycle ? I also like the idea of topping off with just water until Rez change. We use the same type of Rez although I have just mixed the 7 gallons or so with nutes every week. Every two weeks I rinse with GH Floro Keen and back to the nutes.
Do you ever run into any deficiencys towards the end of week two ?
Do you ever run into any deficiencys towards the end of week two ?
HydroRed
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Thanks, I have very little into them and they run great. I have them set to flood for 15 min every 3 hrs when lights are on. I flood them once when lights are off. I'll add 100ml of H2o2 to the res every 3 days like clockwork throughout the entire grow.
Not really any issues with deficiency topping off like this other than when I run my GG4. She requires a bit more N early on than most so I adjust for this by topping off with premix nute solution. I dont really let the ppm drop between res changes with her until the last week. Then I taper off like I always do with straight water top offs.
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MichiganMedGrower
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I'm sorry to say Mega Crop is not an organic fertilizer. It does have some organic inputs but it is basically chemicals.
Not that I find that a negative. I think hybrid production is the most productive way.
HydroRed
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Your right. To clarify, I meant Im done using GH synthetics which is what I've been using for a while.
OldMedUser
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I have an OG#18 female from those guys. Very positive reviews by friends and 3 different dispensary owners I know in BC that I gave samples to a couple months ago on a trip out to Kelowna and the Fraser Valley. Tends to throw a few balls early in flower but doesn't seem to be viable pollen as I get no seeds. I pick them off as I find them but there's very few. Real nice buzz but minimal medicinal value for me.
Freshly trimmed before slow dry and cure. Smaller but nice firm buds with a very pleasant smell that I just don't have the nose to describe well.
HydroRed
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Nice flowers. I've always done well with Reserva Privada but Im not impressed with this grow of it.I have an OG#18 female from those guys. Very positive reviews by friends and 3 different dispensary owners I know in BC that I gave samples to a couple months ago on a trip out to Kelowna and the Fraser Valley. Tends to throw a few balls early in flower but doesn't seem to be viable pollen as I get no seeds. I pick them off as I find them but there's very few. Real nice buzz but minimal medicinal value for me.
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Freshly trimmed before slow dry and cure. Smaller but nice firm buds with a very pleasant smell that I just don't have the nose to describe well.
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I just found 2 nanners in the Kosher Kush tonight. I picked em off and hoping thats the end of em. I dont think i'm going to keep this one around.
OldMedUser
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That is so much like my situation it reminds me of a story I heard at an AA meeting in '84 that got me off the booze and into school for 3 years to get a diploma in chemistry. On and off the booze since but better educated about the whole thing.
Way up north in Bumf**k Alberta since '01 and any grow buddies I had are dead or moved away now.
Ain't life a trip eh.
MichiganMedGrower
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I have an OG#18 female from those guys. Very positive reviews by friends and 3 different dispensary owners I know in BC that I gave samples to a couple months ago on a trip out to Kelowna and the Fraser Valley. Tends to throw a few balls early in flower but doesn't seem to be viable pollen as I get no seeds. I pick them off as I find them but there's very few. Real nice buzz but minimal medicinal value for me.
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Freshly trimmed before slow dry and cure. Smaller but nice firm buds with a very pleasant smell that I just don't have the nose to describe well.
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Have you tried letting that og go longer?
I find most plants have decent medical effects if let go 10-12 weeks. Not if they are too ripe. Just the outside end of the harvest window I mean.
I am suggesting this because of the light colored pistils on the buds. I would like to see more dark red hairs covering those buds for a full balanced high.
OldMedUser
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Just saying hydro nutes are chemicals like RoundUp is chemicals is not only misleading but it's false information!
Organic grows need a healthy micro-herd to convert organic CHEMICALS into the salts that plants can actually use to grow with. Hydro nutes just bypass the middleman and mainline those nutes directly to the plants. The quality of those nutes determines the ultimate quality of the pot you end up with. Why else does good organic media need time to "cook"? It's to let the micro-herd have time to proliferate and convert the organic goodies into the salts that plants can actually eat.
We are all chemically based organic beings and owe our existence to the stars that made it possible for life anywhere to exist. Chemicals and chemistry is the whole basis of everything. Cyanide, CN, is organic but do you want to eat it? I think not. Organic does not equal good every time.
I really respect your grows @MichiganMedGrower but when you label everything not "organic" in such negative terms it tends to get my hackles up. The less educated among us take comments like that as gospel from experienced growers with your cred and it spins the message wrongly.
I suck at dirt growing but excel at the DWC I've been doing since '01. It's just so easy and productive for me that I gotta do more!
Not wanting to start a flame war about organics vs hydro and hijack Red's thread but felt a little clarification was needed.
OldMedUser
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I've only grown out the clones I got but have one cut that's now 2ft tall and about to donate a dozen clones. Some will go into DWC to see if they produce better in that scenario and if not I'll likely abandon them as I have many other irons in the fire and am leaning heavily toward hi-CBD strains. The pistils were near 100% red at harvest so what you're seeing is the nice frosty sugar they possess.
MichiganMedGrower
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Just saying hydro nutes are chemicals like RoundUp is chemicals is not only misleading but it's false information!
Organic grows need a healthy micro-herd to convert organic CHEMICALS into the salts that plants can actually use to grow with. Hydro nutes just bypass the middleman and mainline those nutes directly to the plants. The quality of those nutes determines the ultimate quality of the pot you end up with. Why else does good organic media need time to "cook"? It's to let the micro-herd have time to proliferate and convert the organic goodies into the salts that plants can actually eat.
We are all chemically based organic beings and owe our existence to the stars that made it possible for life anywhere to exist. Chemicals and chemistry is the whole basis of everything. Cyanide, CN, is organic but do you want to eat it? I think not. Organic does not equal good every time.
I really respect your grows @MichiganMedGrower but when you label everything not "organic" in such negative terms it tends to get my hackles up. The less educated among us take comments like that as gospel from experienced growers with your cred and it spins the message wrongly.
I suck at dirt growing but excel at the DWC I've been doing since '01. It's just so easy and productive for me that I gotta do more!
Not wanting to start a flame war about organics vs hydro and hijack Red's thread but felt a little clarification was needed.
Wait a minute. I don't argue about organics. The only negative I have ever mentioned is how the products used are sourced and processed.
This fertilizer is made of chemicle elements. It is not a naturally derived fertilizer. Just read the ingredients.
It also has seaweed and humics added. So it's a hybrid fertilizer.
You are the one mentioning round up. That's a poison. Not a chemical based fertilizer.
Should I have used a different term? I don't like synthetic. That is even more misleading.
MichiganMedGrower
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I've only grown out the clones I got but have one cut that's now 2ft tall and about to donate a dozen clones. Some will go into DWC to see if they produce better in that scenario and if not I'll likely abandon them as I have many other irons in the fire and am leaning heavily toward hi-CBD strains. The pistils were near 100% red at harvest so what you're seeing is the nice frosty sugar they possess.
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Oh I can see those buds are ripe. My mistake.
OldMedUser
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I just used RoundUp as an example of what many people think of when hydro nutes are called chemicals. It's not so much the glyphosate in the RoundUp that causes health problems but the surfactants and proprietary ingredients that make up that jug of toxic waste. If I continue down this path I'll fill RIU's server to the brim! lol
Hydro nutes are basically just salts. There are thousands of naturally occurring salts and to call them chemicals or synthetic is mislabeling at best. Fake news at worst.
I only use pink Himalayan sea salt with it's 84 different salts and I use a lot of it because of my very low blood pressure that often crashes and turns me into a zombie for an hour or so. I call it a "nap attack" The doc who did my colonoscopy yesterday laughed at the term but after I explained what happened to me agreed it was very descriptive and needed further looking into. I wish!
I use the AN pH Perfect 3-part nutes, Big Bud and Rhino Skin for their total ease of use, quality and the fact that they have done more to support us pot growers publicly than all the other nute makers combined that still lobby for illegal pot as it makes them money. Now that the legal market is coming forward they are all jumping on the bandwagon but have yet to come out of the closet until the US fed takes cannabis off Schedule 1. Someone needs to explain to the child in charge about the windfall from making pot federally legal and it'll be Schedule 4 tomorrow!
Even the basic AN 3-part has humic and fulvic acids, Wet Betty, (a soap-like surfactant to better adhere to roots and help with absorption), one other thing I can't recall atm and the wondrous pH Perfect technology. I have never checked my pH since switching from my old AN nutes to these. I first got 2 liters each of the Sensi for veg and the Connie for flower but felt that there was way too much N for later flowering than was good for the plants. Now I have gallon jugs of the 3-part that cost me a whopping $124CAN/$50US
I'll grow 20G worth of pot with that. I only do one nute change in DWC right after stretch then go Lucas formula and sometimes don't even do that and get good results. Saves huge amounts of money over blindly following AN's nute charts that will fry your plants if you do that especially with my real low RH or you use the Master Grower kit following their instructions. I strictly use RO water so tap water minerals never figure into the equation.I don't buy into all the hype so those few things from AN are all I get. Have CalMag from GrowTek and Epsom salts from the drug store to round out my nutrient needs.
OldMedUser
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These are them just before chopping. Grown in 4gal pots with a 50:50 mix of ProMix HP and ProMix potting soil that has a good dose of organic nutes in it. Both have Myco so I added some organic unsulfered molasses to their watering days between feedings to feed the micro-herd if present and fed fairly lightly with the AN stuff every second watering or so as the plants told me.
One of the main reasons I'd like to keep this strain going is the fabulous fall colours it displays as it nears harvest. Flowered under a brand new 940W EYE Hortilux conversion bulb running off a 1000W MH magnetic ballast on a Light Rail®.
ChaosHunter
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Just some insider info, Mega Crop is or wil be considered organic hydro under the new laws that passed here.
I spent a great deal of time in the Netherlands and those cats are out producing us in food source by 20-30% in greenhouses. We in the US are more industrial Ag. What they grow for food crops in hydro chemicals is not considered organic there but it is here.
Sorry Red for the derail, lots of good civil conversation here.
I spent a great deal of time in the Netherlands and those cats are out producing us in food source by 20-30% in greenhouses. We in the US are more industrial Ag. What they grow for food crops in hydro chemicals is not considered organic there but it is here.
Sorry Red for the derail, lots of good civil conversation here.
OldMedUser
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The whole EU is tossing GMO crap under the bus. The Russians banned it years ago and the Chinese reject a lot of grains from the US if they have the slightest hint of GMOs in them. It's hard for even the most diligent organic grower to avoid having their crops contaminated by wind borne pollen from similar but genetically modified crops way down the road. Why do you think the big outdoor growers are happy to see hemp farming still illegal in most states? Imagine trying to grow good sensi when there are multi-thousand acres of hemp farms even 50 miles away. Clouds of hemp pollen can travel for hundreds of miles from big farms and really harsh your buzz.
AN has some new certified organic hydro nutes I'm dying to try but not available in Canada yet as far as I know. Seeing as how they started just 10 miles from where I used to live near Abbotsford, BC it should be here first! lol
I won a small bag of that mega crop but would cost to much to get it shipped from CA to northern Alberta so I passed. If it shows up on shelves here I'll give it a go tho.
horribleherk
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I did really well with their skywalker wanting to one day try their gyo series lemon walker as well as their kandy kush
MichiganMedGrower
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I just used RoundUp as an example of what many people think of when hydro nutes are called chemicals. It's not so much the glyphosate in the RoundUp that causes health problems but the surfactants and proprietary ingredients that make up that jug of toxic waste. If I continue down this path I'll fill RIU's server to the brim! lol
Hydro nutes are basically just salts. There are thousands of naturally occurring salts and to call them chemicals or synthetic is mislabeling at best. Fake news at worst.
I only use pink Himalayan sea salt with it's 84 different salts and I use a lot of it because of my very low blood pressure that often crashes and turns me into a zombie for an hour or so. I call it a "nap attack" The doc who did my colonoscopy yesterday laughed at the term but after I explained what happened to me agreed it was very descriptive and needed further looking into. I wish!
I use the AN pH Perfect 3-part nutes, Big Bud and Rhino Skin for their total ease of use, quality and the fact that they have done more to support us pot growers publicly than all the other nute makers combined that still lobby for illegal pot as it makes them money. Now that the legal market is coming forward they are all jumping on the bandwagon but have yet to come out of the closet until the US fed takes cannabis off Schedule 1. Someone needs to explain to the child in charge about the windfall from making pot federally legal and it'll be Schedule 4 tomorrow!
Even the basic AN 3-part has humic and fulvic acids, Wet Betty, (a soap-like surfactant to better adhere to roots and help with absorption), one other thing I can't recall atm and the wondrous pH Perfect technology. I have never checked my pH since switching from my old AN nutes to these. I first got 2 liters each of the Sensi for veg and the Connie for flower but felt that there was way too much N for later flowering than was good for the plants. Now I have gallon jugs of the 3-part that cost me a whopping $124CAN/$50US
I don't buy into all the hype so those few things from AN are all I get. Have CalMag from GrowTek and Epsom salts from the drug store to round out my nutrient needs.
Ok salt based fertilizer. But I think that is not accurate either. And organic in gardening is not the same as actually organic.