Trump/Russia v. Clinton/DNC

travisw

travisw

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Padawanbater2 said:
The Clinton campaign had a joint funding agreement with the DNC that gave them control over the primary process. That's defined as collusion. The DNC is supposed to remain a neutral institution until the Democratic candidate wins the election, are they not?
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So Donna's book excerpt came and out you started the it's rigged chant.

You fail to see/refuse to admit:

Brazile says she found ‘no evidence’ that Democratic primaries were rigged for Clinton
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/11/05/brazile-says-she-found-no-evidence-that-democratic-primaries-were-rigged-for-clinton/?utm_term=.960625dcee83

You claim the funding agreement as proof of collusion yet ignore:

Hillary had a fund agreement but Bernie did too.

Sanders campaign document reveals fundraising relationship with DNC
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/sanders-campaign-document-reveals-fundraising-relationship-dnc/story?id=50926505

You ignore the language in the Clinton Agreement that states "nothing in this agreement shall be construed to violate the DNC's obligation of impartiality and neutrality through the Nominating process" and that "all activities performed under this agreement will be focused exclusively on preparations for the General Election and not the Democratic Primary. You ignore the part that says, "the DNC "may enter into similar agreements with other candidates."

The lulzy and ironic part is you seem incapable of recognizing how the DNC bias toward Clinton helped your boy Bernie.

Back in 2014, no one gave a fuck about Sanders. Elizabeth Warren was the name everyone was talking about. Sanders was a gadfly senator with no major legislation to his name who idiosyncratically refused to officially join the Democratic Party. You guys love polls so much you have seeming forgotten Gallup wouldn't even include him in polling.

Clinton, in reality, didn’t just clear the Democratic field for herself — she cleared it for Sanders also. If he’d been running in a race that included Warren and Biden and Booker, it might have been a lot harder for his voice to break through.


Clinton’s support among party elites also gave Sanders his wedge issue, particularly among Democratic voters who weren’t fans of Clinton. Sanders’s whole message was that the powerful and connected were rigging the systems of wealth and influence against the powerless, and here, in the Democratic Party, was one more example.

None of this amounts to a rigging, or even anything particularly unusual. Brazile, for one, notes that she also worked to clear the field when she managed Gore’s 2000 campaign. “That’s politics,” she says. “There’s nothing wrong with that.”

Substantive enough for you?

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I know I'm not all normal like you and your friends, but google my name and let me know how many times anal pop ups.
 
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schuylaar

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UncleBuck said:
when did i say that the fact that russians bought political ads for sanders changed the results you idiot?

i just said that russians bought facebook ads for sanders because it is a fact.

that is evidence that the primary was illegally rigged against hillary. ditto bernie's russian campaign manager, tad devine.

your evidence that it was rigged against bernie are a few fucking emails among mid level staffers, including smear campaigns that never happened. now you are throwing around wild retard reddit accusations like stealing donations from bernie because your case is fucked.

so how did the DNC have all the power over primaries, like you just claimed, yet lose 47 actual fucking delegates to bernie in a state where she was clearly the most popular choice of the people?
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well, when you're sure you're anointed and thinking your shit doesn't stink, make very certain everyone else holds the same thought processes or you might lose the race- oh wait..
 
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schuylaar

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UncleBuck said:
good point clearly the russians bought political ads with rubles on facebook to help bernie and hurt hillary because they thought it was a good way to waste rubles they were not running a disinformation campaign with clinton's stolen information to help bernie and trump or anything



i literally just told you that they did not rig anything you retard. please stop constantly lying and whatnot.



she literally stated it was not rigged you fucking idiot.

you are not good at this at all
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'i lit a candle and poured a glass of wine to make the hardest call i've ever had to- to Bernie Sanders..'

you're not good at this at all.
 
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schuylaar

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UncleBuck said:
he didn't even rig the election, he ran a disinformation campaign with a hostile foreign power that used theft of american property through espionage to weaken clinton. their measures included boosting bernie during democratic primary too. russian agent tad devine was even running bernie's campaign.

if anything, the democratic primary was rigged against clinton and useful idiots like you only helped the russians achieve their goals, idiot.
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weaken clinton? what part of 2008, do you NOT understand?
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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travisw said:
So Donna's book excerpt came and out you started the it's rigged chant.

You fail to see/refuse to admit:

Brazile says she found ‘no evidence’ that Democratic primaries were rigged for Clinton
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/11/05/brazile-says-she-found-no-evidence-that-democratic-primaries-were-rigged-for-clinton/?utm_term=.960625dcee83

You claim the funding agreement as proof of collusion yet ignore:

Hillary had a fund agreement but Bernie did too.

Sanders campaign document reveals fundraising relationship with DNC
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/sanders-campaign-document-reveals-fundraising-relationship-dnc/story?id=50926505

You ignore the language in the Clinton Agreement that states "nothing in this agreement shall be construed to violate the DNC's obligation of impartiality and neutrality through the Nominating process" and that "all activities performed under this agreement will be focused exclusively on preparations for the General Election and not the Democratic Primary. You ignore the part that says, "the DNC "may enter into similar agreements with other candidates."

The lulzy and ironic part is you seem incapable of recognizing how the DNC bias toward Clinton helped your boy Bernie.

Back in 2014, no one gave a fuck about Sanders. Elizabeth Warren was the name everyone was talking about. Sanders was a gadfly senator with no major legislation to his name who idiosyncratically refused to officially join the Democratic Party. You guys love polls so much you have seeming forgotten Gallup wouldn't even include him in polling.

Clinton, in reality, didn’t just clear the Democratic field for herself — she cleared it for Sanders also. If he’d been running in a race that included Warren and Biden and Booker, it might have been a lot harder for his voice to break through.


Clinton’s support among party elites also gave Sanders his wedge issue, particularly among Democratic voters who weren’t fans of Clinton. Sanders’s whole message was that the powerful and connected were rigging the systems of wealth and influence against the powerless, and here, in the Democratic Party, was one more example.

None of this amounts to a rigging, or even anything particularly unusual. Brazile, for one, notes that she also worked to clear the field when she managed Gore’s 2000 campaign. “That’s politics,” she says. “There’s nothing wrong with that.”

Substantive enough for you?

edit: you taking a porn break kid?

did you know if you google your screen name, 2 of the first 4 results include the word anal?

I know I'm not all normal like you and your friends, but google my name and let me know how many times anal pop ups.
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I don't think it can be spelled out any clearer.

Expect groundhog day all over again. Suggest you just repost this when they make the same old fake claims. There is nothing more that can be said to explain that the claims of rigged are false. The claim of DNC nefarious collusion with Clinton's campaign is a fake conspiracy theory. Like flat earthers, the Sanders supporters will repeat their ignorant claim of rigged primary and DNC collusion ignoring the facts you just laid out.
 
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Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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travisw said:
You fail to see/refuse to admit:

Brazile says she found ‘no evidence’ that Democratic primaries were rigged for Clinton
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2017/11/05/brazile-says-she-found-no-evidence-that-democratic-primaries-were-rigged-for-clinton/?utm_term=.960625dcee83
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travisw said:
No, I fully acknowledge Brazile has walked back her confession since she wrote the article in Politico
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Inside Hillary Clinton's Secret Takeover of the DNC

Controlling the DNC is rigging the primary
travisw said:
You claim the funding agreement as proof of collusion yet ignore:

Hillary had a fund agreement but Bernie did too.
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travisw said:
Sanders campaign document reveals fundraising relationship with DNC
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/sanders-campaign-document-reveals-fundraising-relationship-dnc/story?id=50926505

You ignore the language in the Clinton Agreement that states "nothing in this agreement shall be construed to violate the DNC's obligation of impartiality and neutrality through the Nominating process" and that "all activities performed under this agreement will be focused exclusively on preparations for the General Election and not the Democratic Primary. You ignore the part that says, "the DNC "may enter into similar agreements with other candidates."
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The agreements between Clinton and the DNC and Sanders and the DNC were not the same. Clintons fundraising agreement gave her complete control over the DNC, the Sanders fundraising agreement included no such clause.
travisw said:
the DNC bias toward Clinton helped your boy Bernie.
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Lol, see. Even you admit the DNC was biased against Sanders. You yourself admit the primary was rigged. If the DNC was biased towards Clinton, the primary was rigged against the other candidates.
travisw said:
None of this amounts to a rigging, or even anything particularly unusual.
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Clinton controlling the DNC doesn't amount to rigging the primary?
travisw said:
Brazile, for one, notes that she also worked to clear the field when she managed Gore’s 2000 campaign. “That’s politics,” she says. “There’s nothing wrong with that.”
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After he won the Democratic primary..
travisw said:
Substantive enough for you?
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not even a little bit.. horrible. Try again.
 
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schuylaar

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Fogdog said:
I don't think it can be spelled out any clearer.

Expect groundhog day all over again. Suggest you just repost this when they make the same old fake claims. There is nothing more that can be said to explain that the claims of rigged are false. The claim of DNC nefarious collusion with Clinton's campaign is a fake conspiracy theory. Like flat earthers, the Sanders supporters will repeat their ignorant claim of rigged primary and DNC collusion ignoring the facts you just laid out.
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you're just one bad cliche after another.
 
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