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firsttimeARE said:
VPD can be fine in a 70%RH room if temps are high. 70% RH in a 70F room is bad news. 70% RH high 80s low 90s is fine.
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I wasn't trying to be a jerk when I told you that I like to that article I actually did like that article and learned from it. But I know about 30 to 40 growers and no one runs 80° to 90ﾟ inside their house on purpose with mini splits or whatever type of AC unit they have they might run a little bit warmer at certain times. With all respect sir. I'm not discrediting what you're saying at all and how can I argue with the article you put up it makes sense. I'm sorry I don't wanna be argumentative If you run a Room hotter with a higher humidity I never tell people to change what works for them.
 
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#woke said:
I wasn't trying to be a jerk when I told you that I like to that article I actually did like that article and learned from it. But I know about 30 to 40 growers and no one runs 80° to 90ﾟ inside their house on purpose with mini splits or whatever type of AC unit they have they might run a little bit warmer at certain times. With all respect sir. I'm not discrediting what you're saying at all and how can I argue with the article you put up it makes sense. I'm sorry I don't wanna be argumentative If you run a Room hotter with a higher humidity I never tell people to change what works for them.
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No offense taken. Im not trying to argumentative. Everyones room is different. I foubd out recently my,room is too cold for LEDs. And that they should be low to mid 80s. Id imagine if I were supplementing CO2 it could stand to go even hotter.

I know growers who prefer 60-70%RH

Another advantage of higher temps is obviously less cooling costs.
 
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Optimal growth is a 80, even one degree over and it starts falling again.
Optimal growth occurs when nothing went wrong nutritionally and there is enough CO2 and light to drive the process.
 
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No offense taken. Im not trying to argumentative. Everyones room is different. I foubd out recently my,room is too cold for LEDs. And that they should be low to mid 80s. Id imagine if I were supplementing CO2 it could stand to go even hotter.

I know growers who prefer 60-70%RH

Another advantage of higher temps is obviously less cooling costs.
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Something you said is extremely true everyone's room is different. Also a room with a gen ng burner would even that temp if in open room. Also your right i never have a to cold problem California can hit 100° out side for weeks in turn your ac being a natural dehumidification lowers RH. There is no one perfect way temp or humidity. ANC does not know what he is talking about they dont even make ac that is accurate to 1 degree. And tell me any landrace strain from anywhere 80° magic bullet 80°. Iv had gardens my whole life from shity one to expensive one its a plain false statment. Im sorry for comment but im on this site for giving and receiving info. I almost just erased my profile because if this forum should be about open mind, not closed thinking wanting people to have all the answers. I want critical thinking and the share of knowledge i just dont know. And the last statment has nothing to do with you (firsttimer) i respectfully appreciate and like hearing other views on this.
It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.
Mark Twain quote
 
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Computer room units are used in a lot of medical operations for their efficiency and accuracy. Im not sure their exact accuracy but they were formerly used to keep server rooms dehumidified and cool as humidity and high heat do not bode well for computer components especially those under high loads. So the equipment is made to be very critical. More so than the average split system.

They are very expensive though. Stulz is a big brand and they make grow room specific models. As far as I know they are the only manufacturer who has branched out to this sector.
 
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Computer room units are used in a lot of medical operations for their efficiency and accuracy. Im not sure their exact accuracy but they were formerly used to keep server rooms dehumidified and cool as humidity and high heat do not bode well for operation.

They are very expensive though. Stulz is a big brand and they make grow room specific models. As far as I know they are the only manufacturer who has branched out to this sector.
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Laboratory hot play only accurate to 5ﾟ is my landlord also does testing on fornices for government jobs aerospace airplane parts all other for mesos are not as accurate as 1° So if it's good enough for NASA only being accurate and 5ﾟ I think that's fair in no time is it ever going to be AD outside also with running a DE humidifier and in a room with a light that's burning especially most people not doing in a big Room they're doing and closet grows small things they're not keeping accurate with 1ﾟ. See I live in California we got our medical cards and 1996 or where available to get them in 1996 Also looking to like desiccated orders which are ovens for making wax even those aren't accurate within 5ﾟ the top rack does not get the same he as the bottom rack which is why they have to be basically swapped out in moved around from top to bottom. This is why people use a double boiler cause the water access of buffer from the hot plate or the skill you're using I'm telling you all from experience . And I posted pictures of my Room and ANC amediately started telling me how I have to flush my plants he didn't even ask what type of part I was and how big they were what type of growing medium nothing was disgust and for someone to be that close minded to think they can look out something will guess what I do on mine through microscope also when you run a single strain for year after year after year you learn it. This is why it's hard before meter take advice from a stranger like your anc telling me what I need dearest my garden when I'm growing fire.
 
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#woke said:
Laboratory hot play only accurate to 5ﾟ is my landlord also does testing on fornices for government jobs aerospace airplane parts all other for mesos are not as accurate as 1° So if it's good enough for NASA only being accurate and 5ﾟ I think that's fair in no time is it ever going to be AD outside also with running a DE humidifier and in a room with a light that's burning especially most people not doing in a big Room they're doing and closet grows small things they're not keeping accurate with 1ﾟ. See I live in California we got our medical cards and 1996 or where available to get them in 1996 Also looking to like desiccated orders which are ovens for making wax even those aren't accurate within 5ﾟ the top rack does not get the same he as the bottom rack which is why they have to be basically swapped out in moved around from top to bottom. This is why people use a double boiler cause the water access of buffer from the hot plate or the skill you're using I'm telling you all from experience . And I posted pictures of my Room and ANC amediately started telling me how I have to flush my plants he didn't even ask what type of part I was and how big they were what type of growing medium nothing was disgust and for someone to be that close minded to think they can look out something will guess what I do on mine through microscope also when you run a single strain for year after year after year you learn it. This is why it's hard before meter take advice from a stranger like your anc telling me what I need to do in my garden
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#woke said:
Laboratory hot play only accurate to 5ﾟ is my landlord also does testing on fornices for government jobs aerospace airplane parts all other for mesos are not as accurate as 1° So if it's good enough for NASA only being accurate and 5ﾟ I think that's fair in no time is it ever going to be AD outside also with running a DE humidifier and in a room with a light that's burning especially most people not doing in a big Room they're doing and closet grows small things they're not keeping accurate with 1ﾟ. See I live in California we got our medical cards and 1996 or where available to get them in 1996 Also looking to like desiccated orders which are ovens for making wax even those aren't accurate within 5ﾟ the top rack does not get the same he as the bottom rack which is why they have to be basically swapped out in moved around from top to bottom. This is why people use a double boiler cause the water access of buffer from the hot plate or the skill you're using I'm telling you all from experience . And I posted pictures of my Room and ANC amediately started telling me how I have to flush my plants he didn't even ask what type of part I was and how big they were what type of growing medium nothing was disgust and for someone to be that close minded to think they can look out something will guess what I do on mine through microscope also when you run a single strain for year after year after year you learn it. This is why it's hard before meter take advice from a stranger like your anc telling me what I need dearest my garden when I'm growing fire.
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Well a properly sized unit with 0 infiltration issues and high R value insulation will,meet the accuracy better than a room with leaks and r12 insulation.

They make SIPs that are R54. Costs about $230 for a 4x8 panel so they are very ineffective cost to performance. But cannot beat R54 for a 6" thick panel without using 30" thick walls stuffed with cellulose. Thats a 0.0185 U value. A typical exterior wall in your house is 0.083
 
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firsttimeARE said:
Well a properly sized unit with 0 infiltration issues and high R value insulation will,meet the accuracy better than a room with leaks and r12 insulation.

They make SIPs that are R54. Costs about $2500 to do an 8x8 room so they are very ineffective cost to performance. But cannot beat R54 for a 6" thick panel without using 30" thick walls stuffed with cellulose. Thats a 0.0185 U value. A typical exterior wall in your house is 0.083
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You're one of those people when you guys become a recreational state and people start making it a business and Colorado or California Las Vegas just went Alaska's recreational but not operating California is gonna overtake all the size we have more people in California 1000 despensarys in la more dispensary is an away than all of Oregon oregon's also a recreational state I know investors out here we don't look for outbuildings to put in the sticks people use where houses green houses and the best of the best out there 10 million just in la How many people are in Rhode Island
 
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#woke said:
Im sorry im a dick and i think the site makes me feel shitty most of the time . Not your fault mine
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Sorry of all posting i dont think forums are for me i put my heart in everthing i do. I seem to always come off like an asshole
 
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firsttimeARE said:
Relax. No one said you were a dick.
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I just feel like it but thanks. I just have a hard time through text saying what i mean. Through reading can be interpreted many ways. Thats how i felt reading my own posts. I better get thicker skin.
 
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