Help please, my girls are not doing well,

Budley Doright

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Its not a Massive bad thing ,I would not worry about it,,A lot of the time it caused by Heat Stress,But mine are doing it a bit because of it been cold, lights off.I just leave em be,Has long has they look healthy then don't worry.But if they do it through Heat then i would try and bring the temps down.
I'm not worried as I kinda think it's a good thing as most do lol. No heat stress and not to cold either. Again if my plants are heat stressed they tend to canoe and droop not pray.
 

Budley Doright

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Ok so I got to reading and WTF LOL. This pot growing sure has gotten confusing since I started to read about growing lol. Did fine for years but now I'm reading (not just here btw) that, no their not happily praying, but their stressed ...... well it's kinda half and half that their happy or sad lol. I give up :(. I was just trying to grow happy plants lol.
 

Lucky Luke

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Ok so I got to reading and WTF LOL. This pot growing sure has gotten confusing since I started to read about growing lol. Did fine for years but now I'm reading (not just here btw) that, no their not happily praying, but their stressed ...... well it's kinda half and half that their happy or sad lol. I give up :(. I was just trying to grow happy plants lol.
Give em what they are praying for!
 

Budley Doright

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Give em what they are praying for!
Ya well I thought they were happy lol. Not sure how much more love I can give the needy bastards lol. The weird thing is my outdoor plants are way more stressed from heat, cold, bugs, etc. and on the hottest driest days they never do it. I'm still not convinced but keeping an open mind that perhaps they aren't as happy as I assumed lol.
 

Lucky Luke

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Ya well I thought they were happy lol. Not sure how much more love I can give the needy bastards lol. The weird thing is my outdoor plants are way more stressed from heat, cold, bugs, etc. and on the hottest driest days they never do it. I'm still not convinced but keeping an open mind that perhaps they aren't as happy as I assumed lol.
your outdoor plants, like mine didn't do it because they have the sun not our poor recreation of it.

Lower the light and I bet the leaves go flat and basking.
 

Budley Doright

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your outdoor plants, like mine didn't do it because they have the sun not our poor recreation of it.

Lower the light and I bet the leaves go flat and basking.
I wish I could lower my lights but I keep them as close as I can now at about 16" bare bulb, 600 w x 2, I also read that it's low humidity which could be an issue for me. Again it seems it just another highly contested issue with growing, half saying good, half saying bad lol. I will try a few things when I get the room going, can't decide on what to run :(.
 

Lucky Luke

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I wish I could lower my lights but I keep them as close as I can now at about 16" bare bulb, 600 w x 2, I also read that it's low humidity which could be an issue for me. Again it seems it just another highly contested issue with growing, half saying good, half saying bad lol. I will try a few things when I get the room going, can't decide on what to run :(.
yea, I'm running a 600 to but I'm at about 8 or 10 inches atm (raised it a tad last night as it was a warm evening)
 

andy s

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yea, I'm running a 600 to but I'm at about 8 or 10 inches atm (raised it a tad last night as it was a warm evening)
8-10 inches???? whaaaa?!? i thought yo
So i checked the light penetration with the lux meter i have.

Please check the attached picture.

If i raise the light, the middle row gets less light,

If i lower the light, the outside ones get less light,


Please check the picture below
lux read higher than actual lumens so that might be why, little tooo warm and not enough light might be causing them to develope faster since they cant really get much bigger is my assumption. but you said temps and all are in check so thats why i think its just them not having proper light. led lights arent powerful enough for a wide spread or deep penetration.
 

Lucky Luke

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sunsystem.jpg Goal is to be in that 40 to 60k region, heat dependant of cause. Foot candles drop off so fast with lamps. I'm also running an XL cooled hood so that helps with some heat but of cause I'm losing lumans with that. An older pic and ive since upgraded my filter and ducting on the left hand side. Nowhere near as good a set up as most of the people on here but that's a 4 x 4 tent with a 3.5 x 4 scrog net, 4 plants. Pulled a pound first run. So not to shaby, if I had of used the whole tent I could of gotten 1g per W fairly comfortably. Anyway, pic is just to show you that you can indeed run lights fairly low.

 
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Budley Doright

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Goal is to be in that 40 to 60k region, heat dependant of cause. Foot candles drop off so fast with lamps. I'm also running an XL cooled hood so that helps with some heat but of cause I'm losing lumans with that. An older pic and ive since upgraded my filter and ducting on the left hand side. #101 Nowhere near as good a set up as most of the people on here but that's a 4 x 4 tent with a 3.5 x 4 scrog net, 4 plants. Pulled a pound first run. So not to shaby if I had of used the whole tent I could of gotten 1g per W fairly comfortably. Anyway, pic is just to show you that you can indeed run lights fairly low.

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LOL at 8" my girls would be on fire but ya a cool hood, that's why. My batwings are ducted at the top to pull heat away which works well but not as good as a sealed hood.
 

Lucky Luke

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LOL at 8" my girls would be on fire but ya a cool hood, that's why. My batwings are ducted at the top to pull heat away which works well but not as good as a sealed hood.[/QUOTE]

yea, makes a difference.
In winter ill remove the glass and see if I can run it without for more warmth in the room. Grow is in an uninsulated shed so warm HID lights are a must or id have to run a heater.
 

Budley Doright

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LOL at 8" my girls would be on fire but ya a cool hood, that's why. My batwings are ducted at the top to pull heat away which works well but not as good as a sealed hood.
yea, makes a difference.
In winter ill remove the glass and see if I can run it without for more warmth in the room. Grow is in an uninsulated shed so warm HID lights are a must or id have to run a heater.[/QUOTE]
Fuck I have 10" of insulation and I'm still running a heater with lights on, on occasion, that's why I haven't jumped on LED, I need heat :(.
 

Lucky Luke

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yea, makes a difference.
In winter ill remove the glass and see if I can run it without for more warmth in the room. Grow is in an uninsulated shed so warm HID lights are a must or id have to run a heater.
Fuck I have 10" of insulation and I'm still running a heater with lights on, on occasion, that's why I haven't jumped on LED, I need heat :(.[/QUOTE]


lol.. but im in Australia..sounds like you get that cold, wet, white stuff.
 
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ANC

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View attachment 4055087 Goal is to be in that 40 to 60k region, heat dependant of cause. Foot candles drop off so fast with lamps. I'm also running an XL cooled hood so that helps with some heat but of cause I'm losing lumans with that. An older pic and ive since upgraded my filter and ducting on the left hand side. Nowhere near as good a set up as most of the people on here but that's a 4 x 4 tent with a 3.5 x 4 scrog net, 4 plants. Pulled a pound first run. So not to shaby if I had of used the whole tent I could of gotten 1g per W fairly comfortably. Anyway, pic is just to show you that you can indeed run lights fairly low.

That hood needs insulation on the outside.
 

theflowerman.dc

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My humidity is at 35-45

Tempe are at 68-75

I have not measure the light height as my canopy is not flat, so for some plants it might be 10in but might be 20in for other.

They recommend 2 600s, i added a third one to be on the safe side but i guess not

Like look at the pic below, the plant has barely any pistils and buddlets are very tiny,

Is it strain? Strain is truffle shuffle
 

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ANC

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I would try to bump humidity by at least 10%
Remember 50% means its dry, 80 percent it is wet.
 

theflowerman.dc

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I thought flower i am supposed to be at 40ish

And how can i raise it?

They are in a basement, where i have two tents, so i would have to raise humidity in both tents,

Does that i would need to raise humidity of the basement?


I would try to bump humidity by at least 10%
Remember 50% means its dry, 80 percent it is wet.
 
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