DIY with Quantum Boards

Stephenj37826

Stephenj37826

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see4 said:
lol.
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see4 said:
MOQ is US manufacturing is generally in the 10s of thousands. Yet the boards seem to constantly be out of stock. Are you saying you sell 10s of thousands of these boards?

How are you working with a manufacturer in the US without being an LLC and having a reseller license? Or are you dba?
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We are a corporation. And yes we buy thousands of these boards and millions of leds.
 
see4

see4

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nc208 said:
LOL after seeing @see4's posts I dont think anyone would want him to be their customer.


I agree with you here, you are good at being a troll.

I didn't buy a QB board, I bought strips off Alibaba and built my own light, so as someone whose already done everything you say your going to do about 4 months ago I grow tired of your stupid posts who haven't actually ordered or built anything but talk alot of shit like they have. Just like you probably tell people your not a virgin.
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cool story mr sock.
 
see4

see4

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Stephenj37826 said:
We are a corporation. And yes we buy thousands of these boards and millions of leds.
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Yea.. whenever you get a chance, just let us know what state you are incorporated in. And also who the manufacturer of the boards are... them being in the US of course, under NDA, you have absolutely nothing to worry about.....
 
see4

see4

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Budzbuddha said:
Watching the news - less than 20 minutes ago .....
It's not like it's some garage ghetto grow but more likely a professional patient grow .....

I cried ...:sad:

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Damn. That sucks. And those dope plants all look like they were grown with USA made HLG lights too! Just kidding, we all know HLG lights are made in China.

In all seriousness though. That sucks. So many people who were in need will be without, and may have to resort to prescribed narcotic garbage.
 
Budzbuddha

Budzbuddha

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nc208 said:
It really puzzles me the amount of people that come into this thread with their alibaba BS. The title of this specific thread is DIY with Quantum Boards(not DIY with LM561c). This thread is about people using the board made by HLG. Why does it seem like a good idea to go into a thread about a particular companies product and then start talking about cheaper knockoffs?
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Right these retards that try to interrogate the makers and product should go buy some more soft white sylvania bulbs they have hanging on foil turkey pans.

Trolls will continue to pop up like their grandma's chancre sore ....
I say ignore their questions and take their alibaba knockoffs and tooling quotes and shove it up their ass. The products are solid , both PCB boards and fixtures , including their cob units. Besides as the core led tech improves .... LM561c is inevidibly going to be replaced with more efficient and light producing offerings.
The Bins change , so harping about this and that is moot. I still have S5 bin in my original builds - so what ? ... Shit still grows like a boss.

Fuck that guy .... He brings NOTHING to the table.
 
Budzbuddha

Budzbuddha

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Grow got pinched by the cops based on their $67000 light bills ...
If they used Quantums all would be good ....

Approx. 40,000 plants lost ( 3 buildings )
Looked like CMH style lights from video report.
Grow was very clean and had propagation tables , and private security on grounds .

Light bill threw them under bus ...
 
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Dave455

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see4 said:
Not sure what an NDA would do for that manufacturer or reseller. Only that they cannot sell the OEM branded boards. All the manufacturer needs to do is not stamp the OEM markings and sell as generic.

I've never heard of the 336pc boards, someone on yt mentioned those as well but could not find them as PCB with Samsung 561c 6/7.

I purchased 10 PCB Samsung 561c boards, if they arrive and the diodes are not Samsung 561c, I will be getting my money back. As far as warranty goes... many US resellers say they warranty, but when push comes to shove, they never do. Also, for ~$30 a board, it's not a big deal.
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INcluding shipping ?
 
see4

see4

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Budzbuddha said:
Right these retards that try to interrogate the makers and product should go buy some more soft white sylvania bulbs they have hanging on foil turkey pans.

Trolls will continue to pop up like their grandma's chancre sore ....
I say ignore their questions and take their alibaba knockoffs and tooling quotes and shove it up their ass. The products are solid , both PCB boards and fixtures , including their cob units. Besides as the core led tech improves .... LM561c is inevidibly going to be replaced with more efficient and light producing offerings.
The Bins change , so harping about this and that is moot. I still have S5 bin in my original builds - so what ? ... Shit still grows like a boss.

Fuck that guy .... He brings NOTHING to the table.
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So if what's important is the diode, and the diodes that I buy from alibaba are the exact same diodes being sold by HLG for more than twice as much, who's the troll?

There ain't no fixin stupid. :wall:
 
see4

see4

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Humple said:
Not all. The 288 is made in the USA.
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That may be. And I'm glad to see that people still care about making things in the US.

But that doesn't explain the Samsung diodes. Those always have been and always will be made in Asia. ( China, Taiwan, Korea, whatever... ) -- And the diodes are what matter. The boards they are attached to in no way shape or form help with the growth of the plant.

I get your point though. Its good to see stuff made in USA.

Edit: Its good to see stuff assembled in the USA.
 
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see4

see4

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Humple said:
I consider the volume of copper in the board to also be important.
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I would agree. Conductivity is important. But at the end of the day, if the "knockoff" boards are producing roughly the same amount of output as the HLG boards at less than half the cost... i consider that a no brainer.

Now if you were to tell me that HLG were making slimmer margins than they are, I would likely consider buying from them instead. But they aren't, so I won't.

It really comes down to whether or not the diodes I bought from alibaba are the same diodes used in HLG boards. Some contend they aren't, sans evidence. I contend they are, for now, until proven otherwise.
 
see4

see4

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Ok. So HLG is not a corporation, but rather an LLC.

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Based in Ohio. LLC started in July of last year.

It's all public information. Sorry, no doxing.

With that said, it is possible to argue that the boards they designed are "theirs". But very unlikely, in order to have ip rights over a design, it needs to not be prior art, even in likeness. Unfortunately for Amit and Stephen, the PCB boards they potentially thought were their own sweet invention were public prior art.

Now that we have all that settled, lets get back to the meat and potatoes of it all. The diodes. I think we've beatin' that dead horse long enough...
 
619kt619

619kt619

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see4 said:
I would agree. Conductivity is important. But at the end of the day, if the "knockoff" boards are producing roughly the same amount of output as the HLG boards at less than half the cost... i consider that a no brainer.

Now if you were to tell me that HLG were making slimmer margins than they are, I would likely consider buying from them instead. But they aren't, so I won't.

It really comes down to whether or not the diodes I bought from alibaba are the same diodes used in HLG boards. Some contend they aren't, sans evidence. I contend they are, for now, until proven otherwise.
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Ten bucks says you got shit binned diodes. guess we won't know until YOU prove to us otherwise. But hey you saved a buck and got to troll the thread, must be doin' something right
 
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Ryante55

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see4 said:
Ok. So HLG is not a corporation, but rather an LLC.

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Based in Ohio. LLC started in July of last year.

It's all public information. Sorry, no doxing.

With that said, it is possible to argue that the boards they designed are "theirs". But very unlikely, in order to have ip rights over a design, it needs to not be prior art, even in likeness. Unfortunately for Amit and Stephen, the PCB boards they potentially thought were their own sweet invention were public prior art.

Now that we have all that settled, lets get back to the meat and potatoes of it all. The diodes. I think we've beatin' that dead horse long enough...
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You know they started selling them under a different company first I think it was northern grow lights Johnson grow lights may have sold them too those companies merged
 
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