The Irish Growers Thread!

[Naes]

How long are they into flower @Naes? Do you have the biobizz feeding schedule? Attached if not. I think you might be underfeeding by the sounds of it. I used to follow the schedule fairly closely from about week 3 in the biobizz light soil, starting nutes at 1/4 strength, next feed half strength, next 3/4 and full strength by the 4th feeding. But about half way through flower I'd start dialling the grow back at a similar place until 1/4 strength, then drop it altogether. I did a grow with the full strength grow schedule once, the smoke turned out fine but the leaves at harvest were really really dark green, so N tox probably affected the yield.

I also feed 2L per plant but I've found they respond better to having 2 x 1L feeds/waters per week instead of 2L. Typically I feed every 3-4 days now, going by weight of the pot.

They are in the 4th week of flower.
I don't follow the bio bizz schedule as I always thought it was too strong for Allmix soil.

I'm give them a good feed tonight of bloom. Maybe 4ml a litre and see how they go.
Hopefully I won't block out the roots again !!!

How's your lady coming along. Must be dry by now

 

[kit10]

HA! I actually edited my post as I saw your feeding schedule, definitely underfeeding them. I specifically went with light mix because I didn't want issues with hot soil, it's easier to control nutes in light soil.

I know you're afraid of over-feeding, but you can't do too much damage with organics, I only ever had minor nute burn with the biobizz. That being said, slow and steady is always recommended. Up Bloom to 3mls per/litre and Grow to 1ml, and try splitting your 2L feeds to 2 x 1L. Next week up the bloom by another ml but keep the grow at 1ml. The week after that, start reducing the grow if you want. If she's still looking hungry, try increasing the bloom by another .5ml

My queen went into brown bags yesterday, Saturday for jarring and smoking by next week. Ahhhh..... I'm hoping my speedy chile will be ready to chop in the next week or 2 too!

 

[Naes]

Thanks for the advice.
So I give them 2 x 1 litres with 3ml bloom and 1ml grow in each litre.
Or 1.5ml and .5ml in each litre.

I'm thinking too much and confusing myself
And sure if they don't improve I can always flush I suppose.

Happy daze with the queen. Hope it all turns out ok.
Keep it hidden from himself as well

 

[kit10]

Next feed: 3mls Bloom & 1ml Grow in 1L water and see how they respond to that. If they look good, do the very same for the next feed. If not, dial the grow back to .5ml and bloom to 2.5mls, with a view to increasing it to 3mls again after that. At this point, bloom is what they'll be hungry for.

Just to give you an idea, at wk4 of flower in light soil, I was feeding my white rhino 3mls each of grow, bloom, heaven and algamic per litre of water, and I was doing that twice a week.

Era, the queen is for sharing, that's our xmas tootage sorted, with the odd 50bag pressie to a select few. My newest grow, I might not be so generous though. AK47 and Gorilla, harvest date mid-April and ready to demolish for my birthday. I had AK47 once and had a GREAT TIME!!! on it. The fact there was a little charlie to accompany it is completely irrelevant.
Can't wait for that chop. I'm tempted to grow both in 26L fabric pots. They'll be a really tight squeeze in my tiny 2ft tent but more roots = more yield, and I'm greedy.

 

[Naes]

Next feed: 3mls Bloom & 1ml Grow in 1L water and see how they respond to that. If they look good, do the very same for the next feed. If not, dial the grow back to .5ml and bloom to 2.5mls, with a view to increasing it to 3mls again after that. At this point, bloom is what they'll be hungry for.

Just to give you an idea, at wk4 of flower in light soil, I was feeding my white rhino 3mls each of grow, bloom, heaven and algamic per litre of water, and I was doing that twice a week.

Well if you were feeding your lassies that amount I'm definitely under feeding my ladies !!!!

I'l try what you say tonight and keep an eye on them.

Have you any EC pen or PH pen ?
I'e been looking into buying them but the good ones are all nearly €100 each !
Or tacky ones from Hong Kong for €15

I'd like to get my shit in order for the WW and Blue Mystic !

 

[kit10]

Well if you were feeding your lassies that amount I'm definitely under feeding my ladies

But just bare in mind that mine were in light soil, the allmix obviously has more in it but I think it's most beneficial in the grow period. Lacing allmix in bloom nutes is kind of a buzz kill for seedlings

No EC pen, no ppm, nothing like that. I have the cheap ass ph meter solution which does the job just fine, but a ph pen is definitely on my to buy list. I think the cheapest I saw was about €76 in one of the Irish grow shops online. A proper jewellers loupe too. The one I have is a piece of cheap crap, talk about getting what you pay for, lol!

 

[budsahoi]

Stop using grow when in flower. The amounts needed are less in hot dry environment. Use a little less than the recommended and go from there.

 

[Naes]

Stop using grow when in flower. The amounts needed are less in hot dry environment. Use a little less than the recommended and go from there.

I was always under the impression that you use 1ml grow throughout the growth of the plant.
That's what's on the schedule for them.

 

[budsahoi]

I was under the assumption it was wet weight tbh

Same here.
Only dry weight matters.

 

[theslipperbandit]

Stop using grow when in flower. The amounts needed are less in hot dry environment. Use a little less than the recommended and go from there.

I use grow for the first 4 weeks of flowering when there is still alot of vertical growth taking place n by week 5 iin pretty much on just flowering nutes

 

[theslipperbandit]

Hanna and essential are pretty good ph pens for fairly little but I must say my bluelab is a Savage bit of kit but when it dies ill get one of these, the combo beter, considerably more robust

 

[Naes]

Reading up there about nutrient lockout.

Is it possible that this may be the issue?
Whenever I water them I don't allow for run off. I only did it twice in 12 weeks of growth where run off was visible.

Before adding more nutes is it wiser to flush with ph water ?

 

[theslipperbandit]

Nah MSN you dont have lockout, have you holes in those pots?
You also stated you dont have a ph meter so thats another issue to consider.
If I add just Base nutes to my water it drops to like a ph of 4 so I mix up Silicon to get my ph higher or a seaweed feed. But again if ur not phing ur feed ur plants are never gonna be in peak conditions

 

[Naes]

I checked out that ph meter you put up. Some bobs for that.
Money well spent I'd imagine.


I have holes in the pots.

I have a cheap ass PH pen but can't calibrate right. You have to use the screw behind it but it gives various readings from the same solution.


So you reckon feed away so and see what happens ?
I'm just thinking too much about it and fear history is repeating itself !

 

[theslipperbandit]

You can always add more nutes but not take it back..like drug use

 

[Naes]

You can always add more nutes but not take it back..like drug use

you have me confused now !!!

 

[Naes]

Right.
I'm home and I'm gonna fix this shit.

I got my cheap ass ph pen and calibrated it at PH4.0 at a temp of 16°c.

I cleaned it and now have it in PH6.864 at a temp of 16°c. It's reading PH6.02 when it should be reading PH6.90 at that temp.

This means my pen is out PH-0.88

My tap water is measuring PH5.44 at a temp of 16°c.

Does this mean I add 5.44 and 0.88 and my tap water equals PH6.32 at a temp of 16°c ?

 

[ae86 grower]

Mainly the large bottom fan leaves.
But since I lst 'd them a few lower branches that are the same height as the rest of the plant are turning pale too.

I thought you need bio bloom for the whole grow cycle ? Its only 0.5ml per 2litres

no bloom is for flowering, grow is for veg, only use the grow if there pale looking in flower, as its more veg based nutes, the base minerals you need in veg are in the bloom already...

i also use bio bloom and grow so its just what works for me, also up the dose of our feed a touch, seems a bit low...

 

[ae86 grower]

never tought i`d say this but fuck the thread is moveing too fast hahahahaha..

 

[Naes]

no bloom is for flowering, grow is for veg, only use the grow if there pale looking in flower, as its more veg based nutes, the base minerals you need in veg are in the bloom already...

i also use bio bloom and grow so its just what works for me, also up the dose of our feed a touch, seems a bit low...

Apologies AE.
I ment to say "I thought you need bio "grow" for the whole grow cycle ? Its only 0.5ml per 2litres

I'm gonna give them 3ml of bloom and 1ml of grow in an hour.