The Democratic Party Autopsy Report

UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Padawanbater2 said:
Holy fuck, what a racist
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i'm white and i was more enthusiastic and ready to vote for obama because i wanted to see our first black president as well.

identity politics drove more black voters to the polls to vote and win two elections in a row for democrats.

but you hate identity politics.
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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UncleBuck said:
i'm white and i was more enthusiastic and ready to vote for obama because i wanted to see our first black president as well.

identity politics drove more black voters to the polls to vote and win two elections in a row for democrats.

but you hate identity politics.
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Why did you call conservatives racist for making the exact same claim?
 
Padawanbater2

Padawanbater2

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UncleBuck said:
i didn't, you're being stupid as fuck again.
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You just admitted you voted for Obama because he is black. Conservatives criticized you for it, you called them racist at the time. All the while, it's discovered that you're actually the racist one. You voted for the guy specifically because he is black, not because of his policy positions.
 
PCXV

PCXV

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Padawanbater2 said:
I disagree

You're arguing a position based on a false dichotomy because we're under the control of a two party system. The two party system is not set in stone, it's simply a consequence of the way it works in practice. There are much better systems of political control throughout the world, first past the post being my favored political system.
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How is it a false dichotomy when it is the exact situation we are in? We literally had two choices last year. That is reality.
 
travisw

travisw

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Padawanbater2 said:
Why did Hillary Clinton lose 7% of black voters compared to Obama? That's almost a million extra votes she lost while competing against a guy who is collectively accepted as racist

That's absurd
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765,000 and 1 million are very different numbers

Why did she lose 7% of black voters?

The 2016 election was the first to take place without the full protections of the Voting Rights Act. A lot of people would blame voter suppression.



Trump's 'Voter Suppression Operation' Targets Black Voters
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/10/trumps-black-voter-dilemma/505586/

The real reason black voters didn’t turn out for Hillary Clinton — and how to fix it
GOP voter suppression efforts are the key to combatting a changing demographic that trends blue
https://www.salon.com/2016/11/10/the-real-reason-black-voters-didnt-turn-out-for-hillary-clinton-and-how-to-fix-it/

Voter Suppression in North Carolina
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/08/opinion/voter-suppression-in-north-carolina.html
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Padawanbater2 said:
You voted for him because he was black, not because of his policy positions.

That is extremely irresponsible and racist
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Padawanbater2 said:
You just admitted you voted for Obama because he is black. Conservatives criticized you for it, you called them racist at the time. All the while, it's discovered that you're actually the racist one. You voted for the guy specifically because he is black, not because of his policy positions.
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Padawanbater2 said:
You're claiming you didn't call anyone racist for making the claim that black people voted for Obama because he was black?

Really? Please say that's what you're claiming
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holy shit, a three-fer on the same post. nice meltdown.

i would've voted for any democrat, as would about 95% of the 60% of black voters who turned out for hillary. that we got our first black president was just a bonus that made me more enthusiastic. that's probably what led to the extra 5% turnout.

please post the quotes you are referring to so we can examine them, padaraper.

i love being called racist by the guy who said black voters have a "herd like mentality". so thanks.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Padawanbater2 said:
It's a false dichotomy because we only had two choices last year
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no, we had many more than two choices. your buddy st0wandgr0w voted for russian plant jill stein. others wrote in bernie because they are dumb (or the kremlin campaign for bernie convinced them to do so, who knows). there was also gary johnson, who nazis like twopump swore was their choice. and there were even more beyond that.

do ya think bernie will run third party in 2020? that is his best hope since he is too unpopular, even with democrats, to even come close to getting the nomination.
 
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